Re: Speed now & then (Space and time?)

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:19 PM, Johnny Eriksson via cctalk wrote: > Ethan Dicks wrote: > >> There are times when video instruction makes sense... >> ... Teaching programming? I don't want to watch 2 >> hours of someone editing text... g > > How

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Ethan Dicks wrote: > There are times when video instruction makes sense - describing, for > example, a chemical reaction that produces major visible change in a > few moments is better to watch than to try to describe. The vast > majority of stuff? Teaching programming?

Re: Speed now & then (Space and time?)

On 4/11/2018 10:06 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 6:04 PM, ben wrote: On 4/11/2018 5:21 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ben via cctalk > wrote: The FREE fpga

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On 04/12/2018 05:58 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On 11 April 2018 at 23:48, ben wrote: The FREE fpga development software is only under windows. Some of the older Xilinx software (required to create config files for their older FPGA chips) will not run on a

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On 04/12/2018 05:57 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On 11 April 2018 at 20:21, Ethan Dicks wrote: I totally agree. I read faster than most people talk and I retain more information. I'd much rather read 1,000 words than watch a 3 minute video. Strongly agreed.

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On 11 April 2018 at 23:48, ben wrote: > The FREE fpga development software is only under windows. WINE works well now. I write in Word 97 under WINE on 64-bit Ubuntu. Works a treat, blindingly fast, and unlike any Linux tool I can find, it has a working outliner. VMs

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On 11 April 2018 at 20:21, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > I totally agree. I read faster than most people talk and I retain > more information. I'd much rather read 1,000 words than watch a 3 > minute video. Strongly agreed. > Not surprising given how many generations have now

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On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 03:48:20PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > The FREE fpga development software is only under windows. Altera's Quartus II and Xilinx ISE also have Linux versions. They're as free as the Windows versions.

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On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 6:04 PM, ben wrote: > On 4/11/2018 5:21 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ben via cctalk > > wrote: >> >> The FREE fpga development software is only under windows.

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On 04/11/2018 02:48 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > I have a nice 18 bit cpu here, with only a few hardware bugs. > Hmm would it work better if I change that around ideas. > > Care to point to a nice 18 bit version of unix or C. > BTW The cpu has a frame pointer S but no S++ --S operations > so

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On 4/11/2018 5:47 PM, Paul Koning wrote: I haven't tried pcc, but supposedly that has been ported to the PDP-10, so presumably it can be ported to an 18-bit machine too. Well the original C mostly just and 8 bit bytes and 16 bit ints, with floating point for good luck. Now who knows what

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On 4/11/2018 5:21 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ben via cctalk > wrote: The FREE fpga development software is only under windows. Xilinx and Altera (now Intel) FPGA development software, including the "free"

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> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:48 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > ... >>> and real text screen UNIX is not aviable anymore. >> Sure it is. > > I have a nice 18 bit cpu here, with only a few hardware bugs. > Hmm would it work better if I change that around ideas. > > Care to

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On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:48 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > The FREE fpga development software is only under windows. > Xilinx and Altera (now Intel) FPGA development software, including the "free" editions, have run under Linux for many years now. I routinely use them on

Re: Speed now & then (Space and time?)

Since you brought it up On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:48 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > > The FREE fpga development software is only under windows. > Free alternatives exist (and can only get better coverage with time) http://www.clifford.at/yosys/

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On 4/11/2018 9:40 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On 1 April 2018 at 00:26, ben via cctalk wrote: But that is the old fly in the ointment, other software may not be avilable. It is, you know. Smart ass response: Who pirated it for you. I do run

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On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On 29 March 2018 at 21:35, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: >> >> MP4s mean that now, not only does it take MUCH longer to create the >> document, we can now waste MUCH more of the

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> -Original Message- > From: cctalk <cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org> On Behalf Of Liam Proven via > cctalk > Sent: 11 April 2018 16:36 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Speed now & then (S

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On 1 April 2018 at 00:26, ben via cctalk wrote: > > But that is the old fly in the ointment, other software may not be avilable. It is, you know. > I do run windows Why? > and real text screen UNIX is not aviable anymore. Sure it is. I mean, there are even text-only

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On 29 March 2018 at 21:35, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > MP4s mean that now, not only does it take MUCH longer to create the > document, we can now waste MUCH more of the reader's time! > I find it very annoying that when GOOGLE'ing to find a simple answer, many > of the

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On 04/02/2018 01:28 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > >> On Mar 31, 2018, at 6:26 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: >> >>> ... >> But that is the old fly in the ointment, other software may not be avilable. >> I do run windows and real text screen UNIX is not aviable anymore. >

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> On Mar 31, 2018, at 6:26 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > >> ... > > But that is the old fly in the ointment, other software may not be avilable. > I do run windows and real text screen UNIX is not aviable anymore. Sure it is. You can perfectly well install Linux

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On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 04:26:44PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote: [...] > But that is the old fly in the ointment, other software may not be avilable. > I do run windows and real text screen UNIX is not aviable anymore. All I > know it is same $$$ cycle as always, BUY the new machine > for faster

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On 3/30/2018 5:32 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:07:27PM -0500, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 09:00:35PM -0500, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: It was an absolute DOG! It took several minutes for Emacs to load. So, uh, I hate to tell you

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:07:27PM -0500, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 09:00:35PM -0500, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >> It was an absolute DOG! It took several minutes for Emacs to load. > So, uh, I hate to tell you about the state of the art these days ... It starts

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> On Mar 29, 2018, at 7:00 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > > Then, in 1986, I bought a MicroVAX-II CPU board from a broker, and a bunch of > 3rd party peripherals, and made a copy of VMS 4.7 (Might have used something > earlier for a time.) > I was in 7th heaven!

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 04:05:10PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > And yet, productive work was performed on it. Indeed the industrial > variant, the 1710 was used for early process control. There were a lot of highway improvements made in the US in the 1950s/ 1960s using Bendix G-15s.

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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 09:00:35PM -0500, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > It was an absolute DOG! It took several minutes for Emacs to load. So, uh, I hate to tell you about the state of the art these days ... mcl

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On 03/29/2018 04:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: I posited that 2 decades ago in a wired article. My CP/M machine booted in seconds while waiting for the winders box to decide if it would/could. "The new machine is so much faster, that it can almost get out of its own way!" From

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> On Mar 29, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 03/29/2018 02:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: HOWEVER, a variant of "Boyle's Law" warns that software and content will expand to fit all available space and speed. >> >> On Thu, 29 Mar

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On 03/29/2018 02:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> HOWEVER, a variant of "Boyle's Law" warns that software and content >>> will expand to fit all available space and speed. > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, allison via cctalk wrote: >> We have proof and it is us. > > Or, as Walt Kelly ("Pogo")

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HOWEVER, a variant of "Boyle's Law" warns that software and content will expand to fit all available space and speed. On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, allison via cctalk wrote: We have proof and it is us. Or, as Walt Kelly ("Pogo") said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us." I posited that 2 decades

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On 03/29/2018 03:35 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: >> I’m not trying to date myself but have things truly sped up? In 1970’s >> Toronto I had a classic computer, sorry can’t recall what it was, >> connected >> to a 300 baud modem; by

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: I’m not trying to date myself but have things truly sped up? In 1970’s Toronto I had a classic computer, sorry can’t recall what it was, connected to a 300 baud modem; by early 80’s had ‘zoomed’ to 9600 baud. Oh, my! [ A typical file size