Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-06-01 Thread Mark J. Blair
The Plastibands that I tried were about half the width of the original belt once stretched into place, and they would not stay centered on the pulleys or tape spools at all. Once they slipped, after just a few turns of the roller, they tangled things up badly. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-06-01 Thread shadoooo
Hello, I would need some clarification about the Plastibands, as I will have to find a suitable replacement for the belt, as ALL my cartridges need a replacement, after removing the old one without causing the infamous blank-spot. Al, please could you clarify which size / brand of (Baumgarten)

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On May 31, 2016, at 09:35 , Al Kossow wrote: > > > > On 5/31/16 8:38 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: >> >> If I could find a way to create new tape belts, then it would be nice to be >> able to overhaul old cartridges. >> > > plastibands work ok for DC-100 carts. the bigger

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Mattis Lind
tisdag 31 maj 2016 skrev Al Kossow : > > > On 5/31/16 1:25 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: > > A simple teqnique that I used sucessfully when reading S8000 > > tapes. > > > > > > so did you ever get your S8000 running? > > It depend what you mean. It was running fine just 25 years ago.

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/31/16 1:25 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: > A simple teqnique that I used sucessfully when reading S8000 > tapes. > > so did you ever get your S8000 running?

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Mattis Lind
tisdag 31 maj 2016 skrev Al Kossow : > > > On 5/31/16 9:34 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > > > > On 5/31/16 8:38 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > >> > >> Transferring the tape to be imaged into an audio cassette housing, and > then imaging it on a hacked up transport > > > > You may want

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Mattis Lind
tisdag 31 maj 2016 skrev Al Kossow : > > > On 5/31/16 12:07 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: > > tisdag 31 maj 2016 skrev shad >: > > > >> However if one > > sacrifice the entire drive and just use the mechanics it would be really > > dumb > > I

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/31/16 9:34 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 5/31/16 8:38 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: >> >> Transferring the tape to be imaged into an audio cassette housing, and then >> imaging it on a hacked up transport > > You may want to use a data cassette like the MT-2ST >

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/31/16 8:38 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > If I could find a way to create new tape belts, then it would be nice to be > able to overhaul old cartridges. > plastibands work ok for DC-100 carts. the bigger size is a bit too narrow for DC-600 though

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/31/16 8:38 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > Transferring the tape to be imaged into an audio cassette housing, and then > imaging it on a hacked up transport You may want to use a data cassette like the MT-2ST http://www.ebay.com/sch/161622290065 has a decent picture. I've got the manual on

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/31/16 12:07 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: > tisdag 31 maj 2016 skrev shad : > >> However if one > sacrifice the entire drive and just use the mechanics it would be really > dumb I don't get it. Why don't you do this with the TU58 mechanism?

Fw: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Tony Duell
Yes, it's still me. My normal ISP seems to have installed spam filters (without warning me!) which (a) drop the classiccmp messages and (b) bounce most outgoing mail! > On Monday, 30 May 2016, 23:37, shad wrote: > Hello, [...] > the device will be able to control

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Mattis Lind
tisdag 31 maj 2016 skrev shad : > Hello, > I'm very interested on TU58, as I have a lot of tapes that I need to dump, > plus I would create some new (console at start) for my vax 730. Great! That is exactly what I want to do. But I also like to recover other tapes from

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread shadoooo
Hello, I'm very interested on TU58, as I have a lot of tapes that I need to dump, plus I would create some new (console at start) for my vax 730. What I'm trying to do: use a drive mechanism connected with to modern mixed signal microcontroller with USB port. The device will be able to control the

Re: TU58 yet one more time

2016-05-31 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On May 30, 2016, at 15:37, shad wrote: > > If somebody is interested, I can share my ideas, I already begun with the > hardware. Yes, please do share! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-05-29 20:34 GMT+02:00 Mark J. Blair : > My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair my TU58 rollers was also > unsuccessful. Maybe the material I used is too soft? Your experience > suggests to me that I should hook up an oscilloscope to measure bit timing, > and then

RE: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Paul Birkel
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Al Kossow Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 3:00 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: TU58 yet one more time. On 5/29/16 11:34 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-05-29 20:10 GMT+02:00 Al Kossow : > > > On 5/29/16 10:03 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: > > > Would it be possible to use a Floppy Tape (QIC-117) tape drive to read > > them? > > No. The heads are movable on floppy tapes, and the format is completely > different. > Yes. I am

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/29/16 11:34 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair my TU58 rollers was also > unsuccessful. Maybe the material I used is too soft? Your experience suggests > to me that I should hook up an oscilloscope to measure bit timing, and then > adjust the

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mark J. Blair
My first attempt to use silicone tubing to repair my TU58 rollers was also unsuccessful. Maybe the material I used is too soft? Your experience suggests to me that I should hook up an oscilloscope to measure bit timing, and then adjust the roller composition and diameter to arrive close to the

Re: TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Al Kossow
On 5/29/16 10:03 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: > Would it be possible to use a Floppy Tape (QIC-117) tape drive to read > them? No. The heads are movable on floppy tapes, and the format is completely different. If you send me your address, I can send you a chunk of tubing that Brad Parker and I

TU58 yet one more time.

2016-05-29 Thread Mattis Lind
I have been fiddling with a TU58-EX device, dual TU58 drives in a small box. The capstans is replaced. I used silicone tubing which I glued on and then sanded down a bit. PVC tubing in a size that would fit seems to be unavailable in Sweden. The two capstans were a little bit different in