On 24 June 2015 at 14:19, Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se wrote:
Oh, I know. I'm from Sweden. We had a very big scandal where 5 containers
with a VAX-11/782 and peripherials or something like that was found under
strange circumstances. When the whole thing started to be investigated
On 2015-06-25 13:31, Liam Proven wrote:
On 24 June 2015 at 14:19, Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se wrote:
Oh, I know. I'm from Sweden. We had a very big scandal where 5 containers
with a VAX-11/782 and peripherials or something like that was found under
strange circumstances. When the whole
Oh, I want the whole computer, not just the CPU chip.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net
http://www.nf6x.net/
Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe h...@freibergnet.de wrote:
1)
Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX but, They made an VAX Chip
that's
compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an one
I just love this translation:
*But me, naturally, anybody especially didn't ask.*
Been there; still am ...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Holm Tiffe h...@freibergnet.de wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe
I was at DEC when much of this took place .
The big concern was not so much the copying but the USSR just buying DEC
product on the open market.
They would set up a front company, sign up as an oem, pay their bills on
time and carry on shipping.
It took a while to sink in that good well behaved
On 2015-06-24 13:40, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-24 08:45, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came,
DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but
much faster than an 11/730, so it's not
On 2015-06-24 13:56, Rod Smallwood wrote:
I was at DEC when much of this took place .
The big concern was not so much the copying but the USSR just buying DEC
product on the open market.
They would set up a front company, sign up as an oem, pay their bills on
time and carry on shipping.
It took
On 2015-06-24 08:45, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came,
DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but
much faster than an 11/730, so it's not exactly as if the Russians were
outperforming what
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Rod Smallwood wrote:
I was at DEC when much of this took place .
The big concern was not so much the copying but the USSR just buying DEC
product on the open market.
They would set up a front company, sign up as an oem, pay their bills on time
and carry on shipping.
It
Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:45:13AM +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote:
I have an Elektronika 60 which is something like an 11/03 clone
but it isn't a clone. It has a Q-BUS with connecteors like DECs
original but with metric pin raster. Boards are bigger and the used
chips and
I don't know, but there could be some WOW stuff there. I have to admit,
the day I heard Barak Obama said the US was going to free up restrictions
with Cuba I thought about the carsand the COMPUTERS!...UNIVAC? IBM
701? Anything could be there.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Paul Birkel
I wonder to what Soviet equipment they would have upgraded?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:06 PM, william degnan billdeg...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mainframes/
Who's up for it?
B
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Paul Birkel pbir...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder to what Soviet equipment they would have upgraded?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:06 PM, william degnan billdeg...@gmail.com
http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mainframes/
I wonder what
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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:59 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: organizing a trip to Cuba
ROAD TRIP!
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:06 PM, william degnan billdeg...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mai
Jonathan Katz wrote:
[..]
I wonder what kind of intelligence the Soviets gained from the ex-IBM
mainframes there. At that point in time a lot of the US defense
(NORAD) was run off of the SAGE setup, which must have had some 650s
as a component, right?
Jonathan, I think it is _really_ naive
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 05:59:08PM -0700, Ian S. King wrote:
ROAD TRIP!
It is going to take a lot of bulldozers to build a road to Cuba ...
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:06 PM, william degnan billdeg...@gmail.com
wrote:
Zitat von Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu:
I've spent a lot of time researching computer engineering in the Eastern
Bloc ...
...being somewhat isolated from what was canonical over here,
they also had their share of quite unusual indigenous designs ... a few of
the papers I have read discuss
On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe h...@freibergnet.de wrote:
1)
Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX but, They made an VAX Chip that's
compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an one
chip solution as the russian
One way to find out!
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu wrote:
I've spent a lot of time researching computer engineering in the Eastern
Bloc ... there aren't a lot of sources here in the West that really
describe well everything they did over there ... my Russian
On 06/23/2015 11:59 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Think that's ok for you?
(not for me as for most people on the world, but they simplay take the
rights to do this which really pisses me of)
If yes, for sure you want to call it stupid that IBM still want's to get
payd for the old Mainframes, don't
http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mainframes/
Who's up for it?
B
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