[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-28 Thread The Doctor via cctalk
On Tuesday, February 27th, 2024 at 13:30, ben via cctalk wrote: > I had z80/s100 kit once, but the power supply failed taking every thing out. Ouch. > I think the PI is too cheap of computer build wise for emulation > of any system. It might blink your lights, but never run 20 users >

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-28 Thread Erik Baigar via cctalk
Hi Paul, thanks for your answer and the interesting links... > > Aha, interesting! Did a short search, but have not been able to > > find a picture of a casette. Just a pile of paper tape instead ;-) > > > > https://images.app.goo.gl/HYqkpYHJUxZeGfiA8 > > Bitsavers has a collection of G-15

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-28 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 02/27/2024 2:13 PM CST Doug McIntyre via cctalk > wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:10:34AM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: > > PS: With low cost Chinese PCB's and vintage parts, why are people not > > building real hardware replica's of interesting machines. > But they are.. You

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-28 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Tue, 27 Feb 2024, Dr. Erik Baigar wrote: I wonder whether anyone kows if someone else had the idea of putting paper/mylar tape into a casette for repeated use e.g. to load an OS or similar. The Diehl Dilector had cassettes with a paper tape loop. Christian

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
The “support” channel has the most info on the applesause. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2024, at 15:12, Wayne S wrote:  Chuck, not to disagree much, because you are an expert, but there’s more to decoding floppies than just reading them. Some floppies have tracks that are recorded at

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Chuck, not to disagree much, because you are an expert, but there’s more to decoding floppies than just reading them. Some floppies have tracks that are recorded at different speeds. Some have tracks that use different modulation gcr on some and mfm on others. A lot of floppies have different

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/27/24 14:42, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Take a look at the Applesauce. > It hooks up to a lot of different floppy drives and records and decodes the > flux. > Version2 of the hardware is being sourced and should be available in a few > months. > Good grief, there are more of these

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> On 02/27/2024 12:29 PM CST paul.kimpel--- via cctalk > wrote: > Bitsavers has a collection of G-15 manuals. Rob Kolstad (formerly of BSDI) and I sat down last August to categorize his online scans. AFAICT he has the largest collection. (Of course I forgot to bring my copy of the technical

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Take a look at the Applesauce. It hooks up to a lot of different floppy drives and records and decodes the flux. Version2 of the hardware is being sourced and should be available in a few months. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2024, at 14:32, Martin Bishop via cctalk > wrote: > >  >>

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
> On 02/27/2024 9:05 AM CST Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > I think the Bendix G-15 had cassettes for the 5-level tape > they used. I can confirm this from personal experience. mcl

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2024-02-27 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
>> I would love to see a PDP-8 with 1/2 size flip chips using today's smaller >> logic. Can you get the logic ? Especially the bus / backplane driving parts. https://retrocmp.com/projects/qbone/326-qbone-unibone-alternative-bus-drivers Q-bus transceivers (DS8641 being a classic) are

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-02-27 1:13 p.m., Doug McIntyre via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:10:34AM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: PS: With low cost Chinese PCB's and vintage parts, why are people not building real hardware replica's of interesting machines. But they are.. I can't tell what you'd find

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Doug McIntyre via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:10:34AM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote: > PS: With low cost Chinese PCB's and vintage parts, why are people not > building real hardware replica's of interesting machines. But they are.. I can't tell what you'd find interesting since the list is pretty wide. I've got an

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/27/24 10:10, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2024-02-27 9:20 a.m., CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: >> It's not a cassette, but the PB-440 (Pitney-Bowes), renamed Raytheon >> 440 and its upgrade the raytheon 520 had a large reel paper tape with >> a bidirectional read and an "operating system"  Load

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread paul.kimpel--- via cctalk
erik@baigar.de wrote: > > > think the Bendix G-15 had cassettes for the 5-level > > tape > > they used. > Aha, interesting! Did a short search, but have not been able to > find a picture of a casette. Just a pile of paper tape instead ;-) > > https://images.app.goo.gl/HYqkpYHJUxZeGfiA8

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-02-27 9:20 a.m., CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: It's not a cassette, but the PB-440 (Pitney-Bowes), renamed Raytheon 440 and its upgrade the raytheon 520 had a large reel paper tape with a bidirectional read and an "operating system" Load the os, say we want to run fortran, spin down

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 2/27/24 08:58, erik--- via cctalk wrote: Hi Jon! think the Bendix G-15 had cassettes for the 5-level tape they used. Aha, interesting! Did a short search, but have not been able to find a picture of a casette. Just a pile of paper tape instead ;-)

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
It's not a cassette, but the PB-440 (Pitney-Bowes), renamed Raytheon 440 and its upgrade the raytheon 520 had a large reel paper tape with a bidirectional read and an "operating system" Load the os, say we want to run fortran, spin down to fortran, read the program in on 80 column cards

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread erik--- via cctalk
Hi Jon! > think the Bendix G-15 had cassettes for the 5-level tape > they used. Aha, interesting! Did a short search, but have not been able to find a picture of a casette. Just a pile of paper tape instead ;-) https://images.app.goo.gl/HYqkpYHJUxZeGfiA8 > of mylar tape instead of paper.

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 2/27/24 00:17, Dr. Erik Baigar via cctalk wrote: I wonder whether anyone kows if someone else had the idea of putting paper/mylar tape into a casette for repeated use e.g. to load an OS or similar. I think the Bendix G-15 had cassettes for the 5-level tape they used. I had an optical

[cctalk] Re: Paper tape in casettes...

2024-02-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 27, 2024, at 1:17 AM, Dr. Erik Baigar via cctalk > wrote: > > > Hi there - recently I posted a small video on a rugged > paper tape casette... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2jnThYsPKc > > I wonder whether anyone kows if someone else had the idea > of putting paper/mylar