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On 5/22/19 1:38 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: I'm not Google, I can't put my infrastructure in the Arctic to reduce my cooling needs. Google has infrastructure all over the world. Most of the locations require active cooling year round. A quick Google search turns up the following

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On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:24 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 5/22/19 12:49 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, 21 May 2019, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > >> Plumbing (unless you're doing aisle containment or RDHx) shouldn't run > >> through the IT space in

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On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:50 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2019, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > > Plumbing (unless you're doing aisle containment or RDHx) shouldn't run > > through the IT space in the data center. > > So how exactly do you attach a

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On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 05:17, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 09:52:19AM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctech wrote: > > I think Google and their YAWNs > > Definition, please? Wikipedia and Urban Dictionary are no help. A Google > search itself is nothing but false

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On 5/22/19 12:49 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2019, Patrick Finnegan wrote: >> Plumbing (unless you're doing aisle containment or RDHx) shouldn't run >> through the IT space in the data center. > > So how exactly do you attach a modern water cooled rack system to your >

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On Tue, 21 May 2019, Patrick Finnegan wrote: Plumbing (unless you're doing aisle containment or RDHx) shouldn't run through the IT space in the data center. So how exactly do you attach a modern water cooled rack system to your cooling water system if not using plumbing? Cooling water to

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On Tue, 21 May 2019, Grant Taylor wrote: On 5/21/19 2:13 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: You definitely need a raised floor for a data center. I think Google and their YAWNs will disagree with you on an actual /need/ for a raised floor in a data center. I'm not Google, I can't put my

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On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 09:52:19AM -0600, Grant Taylor via cctech wrote: > I think Google and their YAWNs Definition, please? Wikipedia and Urban Dictionary are no help. A Google search itself is nothing but false positives. mcl

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On 05/21/2019 04:33 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: How well sealed were the raised floors? Not at all. They were 2 foot squares sitting on adjustable pillars. Each pillar supported 4 tiles where they all met at the corners. You could easily slip a punch card (or credit card) between

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I liked  raised  flooring     you can  clean the room up  fast  by stashing  stuff in the non critical to airflow  areas!  see we  were  lucky  when  comshare  of an arbor    division on  phx    moved out    where  they  designed  IBM channel interfaces  for  xerox sigma 9s We  got

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-Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis via > cctalk > Sent: 21 May 2019 22:33 > To: Grant Taylor via cctalk > Subject: Re: Pleas ID this IBM system > > On 5/21/19 1:17 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > > I'm sure

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Chuck Guzis wrote: > How well sealed were the raised floors? If you mean "when properly installed", pretty well. If you mean "as actually used", not at all. With the exception of the very small raised floor under the HP-3000 in my high school, every place I've encountered raised floors there

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On 5/21/19 3:33 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: How well sealed were the raised floors? I ask this because i recall an episode or two where a disk drive would spring a leak and make a beautiful slippery pool on the floor, just waiting for the next operator to dash by. I always wondered how

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On 5/21/19 1:17 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I'm sure that was /a/ problem.  But I'm not comfortable attributing that > problem to the raised floor. > > I expect that the same problem would be effected by an elevator that > doesn't stop perfectly level with the floor, or has too wide a

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On 5/21/19 1:51 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: ...except when it didn't. On more than one occasion, I recall watching some poor soul with a cart balanced with long (3 foot) trays full of cards, hitting a lifted separator strip in the raised floor. Over goes the cart, the cards spread in

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On 5/21/19 12:55 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > You can't blame anyone but they idiot using a 3 wheel cart while > moving decks of cards. No sympathy from me. They were using what was available. I bought their own four-wheel cart (looked like a standard gray industrial shop cart that you can

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You can't blame anyone but they idiot using a 3 wheel cart while moving decks of cards. No sympathy from me. -- Will On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 3:51 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 5/21/19 12:34 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > I might think far more "obsolete" than "bad idea".

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On 5/21/19 12:34 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > I might think far more "obsolete" than "bad idea". It worked very well > for the mainframe folks. ...except when it didn't. On more than one occasion, I recall watching some poor soul with a cart balanced with long (3 foot) trays full of

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k > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 12:03 PM > To: Patrick Finnegan ; General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Pleas ID this IBM system > > all systems have their advantages disadvantages it all depends on what your > doing and designs u choose. p

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On 5/21/2019 11:03 AM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: all systems have their advantages disadvantages it all depends on what your doing and designs u choose. personaly i think raised floor and tray above are best then u keep all ur power below away from ur data lines plus but then ur setup is

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It was thus said that the Great Jay West via cctalk once stated: > No modern datacenter that I have seen still uses a raised floor *OTHER > THAN* about 3 inches for a ground plane. There is a reason for that... the > old idea of forced cooling under the floor and mixing power & data cables > there

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1, 2019 12:03 PM To: Patrick Finnegan ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Pleas ID this IBM system all systems have their advantages disadvantages it all depends on what your doing and designs u choose. personaly i think raised floor and tray above are best th

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"1 in the elvator takes you to the data center. B in the elvator takes you to the tall enough to walk in raised floor. M or 2 in the elevator takes you to the overhead ca ble area."

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all systems have their advantages disadvantages it all depends on what your doing and designs u choose. personaly i think raised floor and tray above are best then u keep all ur power below away from ur data lines plus but then ur setup is only as good as the lazyest tech u get comming in running

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On Tue, May 21, 2019, 04:13 Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > You definitely need a raised floor > for a data center. You need it for forced air cooling and for running the > water and condensate pipes. Ductwork doesn't have to be below the floor. Modern co-lo

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On 5/21/19 2:13 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: You definitely need a raised floor for a data center. I think Google and their YAWNs will disagree with you on an actual /need/ for a raised floor in a data center. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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Adrian Stoness wrote: > had to crawl 300feet under raised floor cause it was carpeted runing > 48pair fiber line took a good hour and half to get it over to the room with > the rack in it from the building raise When I interned with the Social Security Administration, I was tasked with

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The logo is sort of wrong for the era. I think it is just a sticker that was applied. And I do not think Puma would have been running on just a model 20, and especially in such an "interesting" datacenter. By the 60s, they were already a good sized company. -- Will On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 6:26

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On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 23:10, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > > anyone figured out what these were being used for in that building? Puma, the sportswear company, I think. Related to Adidas -- I believe the companies were run by 2 brothers who fell out. Puma was founded in Nuremberg. You can

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On Mon, 20 May 2019, Patrick Finnegan wrote: I guess it would look right for the era, but I'd never build a data center with raised flooring after my experiences with them. It's such a pain to work with compared to a sealed concrete floor and overhead cable trays. My experience is that

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First, congratulations from us :-) Reading your blog, I'm glad that we did not win the auction. We simply do not have the time and space (and money) to handle this, especially the effort needed to get everything out of the house. I and Klemens both have jobs that require us to do other things

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Fantastic. It fell into the right hands. Marc And so the story continues https://ibms360.co.uk/

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On 5/20/19 1:30 PM, Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk wrote: > As Adam isn't on the list, and I am one of those in that photograph... >From the pictures, it looks like the packs were left in the drives. You should >pull them and lock down the actuator arm before moving them any further.

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had to crawl 300feet under raised floor cause it was carpeted runing 48pair fiber line took a good hour and half to get it over to the room with the rack in it from the building raise On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 5/20/19 2:04 PM,

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> On May 20, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk > wrote: > > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 5:07 PM William Donzelli via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >>> I'm used to 2' (24") raised floors. >> >> I was used to 24 inch floors packed with so many dead cables they were >>

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> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Grant Taylor via > cctalk > Sent: 20 May 2019 22:00 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Pleas ID this IBM system > > On 5/20/19 10:10 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > I cannot im

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On 5/20/19 2:04 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > try crawling under them You'd only upset the mice and the cockroaches. I recall that back in the day at CDC SVLOPS, the local CEs made a pet of one of the sub-floor mice. Field crickets were a problem back then too--the moment that the

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On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 5:07 PM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I'm used to 2' (24") raised floors. > > I was used to 24 inch floors packed with so many dead cables they were > effectively 6 to 12 inch floors. Or worse. > This gets at exactly the reason I dislike

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> I'm used to 2' (24") raised floors. I was used to 24 inch floors packed with so many dead cables they were effectively 6 to 12 inch floors. Or worse. -- Will

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try crawling under them On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 4:03 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 5/20/19 10:40 AM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > > An acceptable compromise is something like the 6 ft raised floor they > > have over at NCSA. > > I've often wondered why

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On 5/20/19 10:40 AM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: An acceptable compromise is something like the 6 ft raised floor they have over at NCSA. I've often wondered why more people don't do raised floors high enough to walk under. I guess they are trying to put it in one room and not have

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On 5/20/19 10:10 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: I cannot imagine (how) difficult it would be to run S/360 era cables in overhead trays. Many are an inch or more in diameter. I think it would be quite annoying to get cables from floor level up to the overhead cable trays. Especially

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On 20/05/2019 18:42, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: The model 20 installations that I played with were mostly to supplant unit-record gear, which typically did not use a raised floor configuration. Mostly the CPU, card mulcher, printer and perhaps a 2311. The installation auctioned off is one

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The model 20 installations that I played with were mostly to supplant unit-record gear, which typically did not use a raised floor configuration. Mostly the CPU, card mulcher, printer and perhaps a 2311. The installation auctioned off is one of the larger Model 20 setups that I've seen. --Chuck

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anyone figured out what these were being used for in that building? On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:11 AM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I guess it would look right for the era, but I'd never build a data > center > > with raised flooring after my experiences with

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On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:11 PM William Donzelli wrote: > > I guess it would look right for the era, but I'd never build a data > center > > with raised flooring after my experiences with them. It's such a pain to > > work with compared to a sealed concrete floor and overhead cable trays. > >

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> I guess it would look right for the era, but I'd never build a data center > with raised flooring after my experiences with them. It's such a pain to > work with compared to a sealed concrete floor and overhead cable trays. But with a raised floor, you can whack the tile puller down in such a

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On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 10:39 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > They should have tried to get the raised floor too (I guess it wasn't > included in the sale), since i) it'll be useful if they try and get the > machine up and running, and ii) it'll probably just get

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> From: Jos Dreesen > And so the story continues > https://ibms360.co.uk/ Wow, what a great recover, and a great site documenting it! Renting temporary local storage was a great idea; it would have been hard to get all that out of there on schedule any other way. (Alas, I don't

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On 06.04.19 16:04, jos via cctalk wrote: The seller clearly has no idea, but the starting price is right ! https://www.ebay.de/itm/seltene-Anlage-Puma-Computer-IBM-2020/202646831828?hash=item2f2eb142d4:g:izoAAOSwhV1cpw Jos And so the story continues https://ibms360.co.uk/

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Anybody knows what happened with the German IBM 360? Was it ever picked up? Will photos or details about the lot ever surface? Regards. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:47 PM Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 16/04/2019 22:22, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > >

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> Does the 3125 use a motor-generator set, like the larger > models? Do you have the right power to run the MG? I know > the MGs on the 3145 were oversized, so maybe the same unit > could also run nthe 3158, and demanded an INSANE current > surge when spinning up. Also, the running current,

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On 04/17/2019 02:30 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 16 Apr 2019, William Donzelli wrote: The 3125 would likely be near impossible to get running without a full set of docs. I think I could have access to the 3125 docs (MLM, CTM, ALD etc.). At least I know where they are.

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> I contacted the seller and asked for the docs. > He returned some pics with a pile of BBB's. Very good, thanks. Hopefully they will get online sometime. -- Will

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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019, William Donzelli wrote: The 3125 would likely be near impossible to get running without a full set of docs. I think I could have access to the 3125 docs (MLM, CTM, ALD etc.). At least I know where they are. Christian

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p.org" Reply-To: "lawre...@ljw.me.uk" , "cctalk@classiccmp.org" Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:47 PM To: "cctalk@classiccmp.org" Subject: Re: Pleas ID this IBM system On 16/04/2019 22:22, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: Clearly

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> I believe the intention is to attempt to restore the /20 + peripherals. > Not sure about plans for the 370. It is a huge task, but they are keen. Did they get docs and ALDs with the pile? Or is that a big unknown until they start actually pulling the machines out. The 3125 would likely be near

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On 16/04/2019 22:22, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > Clearly the pile was not purchased for scrap, so it will be > interesting to see where it ends up. We may never know, with the > secretive nature of big iron collectors.. I know one of the group that bought it, but I am not sure if they

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> Huh? Sorry, but I'm not made of money, and obviously, we have different > oppinions about the value of a large system in unknown or mediocre > condition. It is not your fault or anything - you gave it a good try. I have been in the same boat, bidding what I could, but losing out. I think the

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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019, William Donzelli wrote: Looks like it went for roughly $4k USD. Obviously logistics and storage cost play into things, but somebody got a deal. Dang. -C Assuming the innards of the machines were not all rust buckets - yes. I expected at least twice that, maybe triple.

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> Looks like it went for roughly $4k USD. Obviously logistics and storage > cost play into things, but somebody got a deal. Dang. -C Assuming the innards of the machines were not all rust buckets - yes. I expected at least twice that, maybe triple. But who knows - maybe the seller was not very

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On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:08 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Christian Corti > > > 3710 Euro... someone with definitely too much money ... So no, we did > > not get the system, and it probably won't go into a museum. > > Well, I did send you email

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> From: Christian Corti > 3710 Euro... someone with definitely too much money ... So no, we did > not get the system, and it probably won't go into a museum. Well, I did send you email offering to contribute, to help you all buy it. Did my email not make it to you? Noel

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On Tue, 16 Apr 2019, Christian Corti wrote: On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, it was written you guys bidding on it then? Yes, but only up to a certain limit. 3710 Euro... someone with definitely too much money for a system in unknown condition and local pickup only. So no, we did not get the system,

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On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, it was written you guys bidding on it then? Yes, but only up to a certain limit. Christian On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:53 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, P Gebhardt wrote: wow! ...Hopefully some larger museums or

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you guys bidding on it then? On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:53 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, P Gebhardt wrote: > > wow! ...Hopefully some larger museums or seriously envolved hobbyists > > within Germany can take care of this piece of history to

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> From: Adrian Stoness > someones bid on them eh hopefully not a scraper Well, a scrapper would want to pay as little as possible, so anyone who wanted to actually save the system should be able to get it. There are a couple of bids on it, but the amounts are derisory. I hope

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> On Apr 8, 2019, at 9:40 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > > On 04/08/2019 06:10 PM, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: >> FWIW the tape drive is an IBM 2315 announced April 16, 1965 >> for >> use on low end S/360s.

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On 04/08/2019 06:10 PM, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: FWIW the tape drive is an IBM 2315 announced April 16, 1965 for use on low end S/360s. Here is a brochure as

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pdf/ibm/2415/ Tom -Original Message- From: P Gebhardt [mailto:p.gebha...@ymail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 4:08 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Pleas ID this IBM system wow! ...Hopefully some larger museums or seriously envolv

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yay good luck On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:53 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, P Gebhardt wrote: > > wow! ...Hopefully some larger museums or seriously envolved hobbyists > > within Germany can take care of this piece of history to save this nice >

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On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, P Gebhardt wrote: wow! ...Hopefully some larger museums or seriously envolved hobbyists within Germany can take care of this piece of history to save this nice piece of computer history. Hm, let's see if our museum can get that system - as long as the price stays

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wow! ...Hopefully some larger museums or seriously envolved hobbyists within Germany can take care of this piece of history to save this nice piece of computer history. --- Pierre's collection of classic computers

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someones bid on them eh hopefully not a scraper On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 8:03 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 04/06/2019 01:09 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals > > It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the

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On 04/06/2019 01:09 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the 360-era disk and tape channel controllers are there too On 4/6/19 7:04 AM, jos via cctalk wrote:

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On 04/06/2019 01:09 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the 360-era disk and tape channel controllers are there too Nope, not on a model 20. The 360/20 did not have channels, it

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On 4/6/19 2:22 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Does Germany harbor no gold bugs? I have no idea what the recycling rules or industry is in Germany. I'm guessing it's insanely strict. The precious metal content of that little system isn't going to be much. Maybe enough copper to make it

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On 4/6/19 2:05 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > >> Do you have any idea of the cost to package and ship a 360 >> from there? > > Less than the current value of a dead billionaire. Does Germany harbor no gold bugs?

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> Do you have any idea of the cost to package and ship a 360 > from there? Less than the current value of a dead billionaire.

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On 4/6/19 11:09 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals > It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the 360-era > disk and tape channel controllers are there too > > On 4/6/19 7:04 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: > >>

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It all looks quite complete. Note sure about the 3xxx/5xxx stuff, maybe it's lurking there somewhere. The listing does say there are 6 units 1m x 1m, it's a bit confusing. The Model 20 didn't need a DASD controller and could connect two 2311s directly. Not sure if the resulting disks were

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On 4/6/19 2:58 PM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote: > Any appetite at the CHM? > Marc > >> On Apr 6, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals >> It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the 360-era >> disk

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The description states the machines are in a house, and in possibly bad condition. Also, no shipping to the US. -- Will On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 3:02 PM Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 6 Apr 2019, at 18:58, Adrian Stoness via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > is it me or is it sitting on a

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> On 6 Apr 2019, at 18:58, Adrian Stoness via cctalk > wrote: > > is it me or is it sitting on a riased floor I thought that while at the same time marvelling what great condition it all seems to be in, like they just turned everything off, locked the door and left for 40 years. --

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Any appetite at the CHM? Marc > On Apr 6, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals > It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the 360-era > disk and tape channel controllers are there too > >> On 4/6/19

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Hopefully LCM can go after this to flesh out their peripherals It looks like a nice set of disks and tapes, hopefully the 360-era disk and tape channel controllers are there too On 4/6/19 7:04 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: >

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is it me or is it sitting on a riased floor On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 12:45 PM Mark Linimon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 10:13:51AM -0400, William Donzelli via cctalk > wrote: > > And looking again, some of a System/370 pile (model 125)? > > I hope all of

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On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 10:13:51AM -0400, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > And looking again, some of a System/370 pile (model 125)? I hope all of this equipment can be saved, even if only for display value. mcl

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wow hope it finds a home be real shame to see that get scraped On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > And looking again, some of a System/370 pile (model 125)? > > Bigger bucks. > > -- > Will > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM William

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And looking again, some of a System/370 pile (model 125)? Bigger bucks. -- Will On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:11 AM William Donzelli wrote: > > Its a System/360 model 20 - and looking to be nice shape. Big bucks, > even if just a 20. > > -- > Will > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:04 AM jos via cctalk

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Its a System/360 model 20 - and looking to be nice shape. Big bucks, even if just a 20. -- Will On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 10:04 AM jos via cctalk wrote: > > > The seller clearly has no idea, but the starting price is right ! > >