Re: 2020 Power consumption [Was: Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)]

2016-10-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 19, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > > In the US, the 2020 was sold with a NEMA 5-20P plug, so 120V at less than > 20A, Less than 16, in fact. NEC requires branch circuits to be loaded to at most 80% of the circuit breaker setting, so 16 amps on a "20 amp" circuit. pau

Re: 2020 Power consumption [Was: Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)]

2016-10-19 Thread Eric Smith
In the US, the 2020 was sold with a NEMA 5-20P plug, so 120V at less than 20A, but likely more than 15A for a maximum configuration. Of course, that's only for the actual 2020 box, and does not include disk and tape drives, terminals, printers, card readers or punches, etc.

RE: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-19 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:49 AM >> From: Rich Alderson >> Yes, the d/r card is strictly level conversion, and the microcode in >> the Xilinx does all the Massbus protocol. > So if you don't mind continuing to indulge my curiousity (thanks for all > the indulgence so

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-19 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rich Alderson > Yes, the d/r card is strictly level conversion, and the microcode in > the Xilinx does all the Massbus protocol. So if you don't mind continuing to indulge my curiousity (thanks for all the indulgence so far :-), is the D/R card a daughtercard that mounts on th

Re: 2020 Power consumption [Was: Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)]

2016-10-19 Thread Mike Ross
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:26:06PM +, Rich Alderson wrote: >> >> There have been 2 generations of Massbus Disk Emulator (MDE) at LCM. The >> one of which people have seen pictures was the first generation, created >> when there were on

Re: 2020 Power consumption [Was: Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)]

2016-10-19 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 02:08:37AM -0500, Paul Anderson wrote: > That should be in the site prep documents, or the installing documentation. Certainly, I think I've even looked it up. But I was curious if LCM has measured their specific configuration. /P

Re: 2020 Power consumption [Was: Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)]

2016-10-19 Thread Paul Anderson
That should be in the site prep documents, or the installing documentation. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:26:06PM +, Rich Alderson wrote: > > > > There have been 2 generations of Massbus Disk Emulator (MDE) at LCM. The > > one of which

2020 Power consumption [Was: Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)]

2016-10-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:26:06PM +, Rich Alderson wrote: > > There have been 2 generations of Massbus Disk Emulator (MDE) at LCM. The > one of which people have seen pictures was the first generation, created > when there were only 2 people working on the collection which became the > museum

RE: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-18 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:51 AM >> From: Rich Alderson >> Data was transferred via FTP over a 100baseT crossover cable connected >> to a Slackware server; the Rabbit was able to keep up with 4 drives at >> this speed > Were the bits actually stored on the Slackware se

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-18 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > I would consider one for my VAX/11-750 since Unibus disk emulation > solutions aren't plentiful (but I think I'd have to get a DR750 > (L0014) first). Correction: RH750 (L0007). The DR750 is a CMI-bus "interprocessor interface". -ethan

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-18 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rich Alderson > There have been 2 generations of Massbus Disk Emulator (MDE) at LCM. Thanks for the bits... very interesting. > Data was transferred via FTP over a 100baseT crossover cable connected > to a Slackware server; the Rabbit was able to keep up with 4 drives at

RE: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-18 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 7:21 PM >> From: Ian S. King >>> Does anyone know anything about the status of the plans to open-source >>> it? >> I've made some inquries, stay tuned > OK, thanks! >>> Can you briefly describe what it was? > I'm still curious about what

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-18 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/18/16 6:39 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Paul Birkel > Maybe there are three ribbon cables back there Sure looks like it, and running to a standard MASSBUS connector, to boot. (Not that I have any use for the latter - absolutely no MASSBUS cables at all. But one could jus

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-18 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Paul Birkel > > > Maybe there are three ribbon cables back there > > We _definitely_ need to put these things in 'production'. I would consider one for my VAX/11-750 since Unibus disk emulation solutions aren't plentiful (

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-18 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Birkel > Maybe there are three ribbon cables back there Sure looks like it, and running to a standard MASSBUS connector, to boot. (Not that I have any use for the latter - absolutely no MASSBUS cables at all. But one could just run flat cables from this, to one's RH11/RH7

RE: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-17 Thread Paul Birkel
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pontus Pihlgren Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:58 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:20:58PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Ian S. King > > >> Does anyone know anything about the status of the plans to open-source > >> it? > > > I've made some inquries, stay tuned > > OK, thanks! > > >> Can you briefly describe what it wa

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-17 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Ian S. King >> Does anyone know anything about the status of the plans to open-source >> it? > I've made some inquries, stay tuned OK, thanks! >> Can you briefly describe what it was? I'm still curious about what it was: was it a stand-alone board with a separa

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-17 Thread Ian S. King
I've made some inquries, stay tuned On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:16:10PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > > From: Ian S. King > > > > > When I left in 2014, LCM's Massbus disk emulator was working quite > well > > > indeed, an

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-17 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 12:07:24 -0700 > From: "Ian S. King" > Subject: Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks > > When I left in 2014, LCM's Massbus disk emulator was working quite well > indeed, and was running in 'production' to keep down the

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:16:10PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Ian S. King > > > When I left in 2014, LCM's Massbus disk emulator was working quite well > > indeed, and was running in 'production' ... ISTR the plan was always to > > open-source the hardware and firmware, t

Re: MASSBUS disk emulator (Was: Unibus controller for MFM disks)

2016-10-17 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Ian S. King > When I left in 2014, LCM's Massbus disk emulator was working quite well > indeed, and was running in 'production' ... ISTR the plan was always to > open-source the hardware and firmware, too. I'm interested in this (as I suspect are lots of other people with

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-16 Thread Ian S. King
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Mike Ross wrote: > A plug-compatible Massbus disk/tape emulator would be a Good Thing; > there are things like pdp-10s that rely exclusively on Massbus and > rare finicky power-hungry beasts like RP06. I kinda heard that LCM > were working on something like that b

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-15 Thread Mike Ross
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > I can only think of one, the AED WINC-08 RL02 system, but that used 8" drives > Good luck finding one, and the matching interface card. I don't think Qualogy > Emulex or Dilog ever made MFM for Unibus. MFM controllers were mainly a QBus > market.

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-15 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 7:33 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > > I hope someone gets a Q/Unibus non-mscp small disk emulator PCB built > some day. I wonder if Guy has had any time to work on his. > No, I haven’t had any time to work on stuff. I still have the prototype MEM11A only half built. > >

Re: Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-15 Thread Al Kossow
I can only think of one, the AED WINC-08 RL02 system, but that used 8" drives Good luck finding one, and the matching interface card. I don't think Qualogy Emulex or Dilog ever made MFM for Unibus. MFM controllers were mainly a QBus market. I suppose some day I should make a list of all of the Unib

Unibus controller for MFM disks

2016-10-14 Thread Charles Dickman
I don't know that Digital ever had a Unibus disk controller for ST412 interface disks, but were there any third party controllers? I'm in need of disk controllers for PDP-11/40 and think that might be an option given the availability of reliable MFM disk emulators. -chuck