Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Ping

I still use CDE as my daily desktop, since before the first public release on Linux. I still test new builds. This reminds me, I haven't tried it on OpenBSD in ages, I should try it this weekend. On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 11:56 AM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 9/22/22 22:11, Cy Schubert wrote: > > I'm

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Remove HPUX support

I'm in favor of dropping all those! On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 7:50 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 7/22/22 21:02, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote: > > This is actually four patches: > >1. remove the patch requirement, this was made obsolete with the >newly pulled in ksh, I also cleaned up

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Switching from ksh93 submodule to subtree

Go for it! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Jon Trulson wrote: > >  Hi, > > I'd like to switch ksh93 from being a submodule to a subtree. With a > subtree, all of the code is present, which means there is no need to use > --recursive when cloning, or 'submodule update

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] SPARC patch

I remember at the very dawn of the project we had a license debate and I do not wish to revisit those days. On Sunday, February 7, 2021, Jon Trulson wrote: > On 2/3/21 9:31 PM, Lev wrote: > > Hi Jon, > > If getting Motif and CDE relicensed under X11 someday is still desirable, I > think having

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Default font change

I’m for changing the default font, if an option to revert to the old one is kept, if possible. Right now, the fonts look way better on Debian than OpenBSD and hopefully a new default font will fix this. On Saturday, February 6, 2021, Lev via cdesktopenv-devel <

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fwd: [cdesktopenv:code] Merge request: Added PAM support to CDE.

I like this patch but on OpenBSD, Pam is not part of the base system, there is an openpam port that can installed that would need to be tested On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, Jon Trulson wrote: > I'm forwarding this to the list... > > The PR looks interesting. I have not looked at it yet as SF

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Release Strategy

I agree, the wording should be changed to something like “Always use the latest release, git builds can and do break often”. That line was from the early days (I put it there) when the early releases were so fast moving that the only way to get a build on your platform was to pull from git. Now,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

I don’t care about dtbuilder, but dtmail is not very useful. On Thursday, January 16, 2020, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel < cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I guess I'll take the silence as a no to my previous question, though as a > programmer I was never good at taking social

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.3.2 has been released

I vote in favor of retiring dtmail. On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, Jon Trulson wrote: > On 1/15/20 5:41 PM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > I think I once compiled a non-recent version of open-source CDE for Solaris > 11 (SPARC), and it mostly worked, although dtmail was definitely unusable. >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] sdtedit freely available ?

Anything with "sd" at the beginning was unique to Solaris CDE and Sun has not released any of their CDE sources. On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:09 PM Swift Griggs wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2019, Swift Griggs wrote: > > There is a tool that comes with CDE on Solaris called 'sdtedit' which > allows > >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Back in the flock

Bring back CDEbian, that would be great! CDE still builds on OpenBSD just fine, since that's what I use these days. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 9:47 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 2/20/19 1:53 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I've been away for quite a while from CDE related work, so

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] "Curated" CDE environments

I tried the sparky CDE package and they don’t set the hostname right so the desktop applications menu from the menu barfs an error and doesn’t work. On Wednesday, January 9, 2019, Edmond Orignac wrote: > I know that SparkyLinux, a Debian derivative, has a CDE desktop > >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Docbook

After CDE was open sourced, dtinfo didn't build. I decided to spend a summer rewriting it in HTML. I still have nightmares about it. On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:21 PM Matthew R. Trower wrote: > Oh! Okay, so when I said I came up dry, I meant "nothing but a static > analysis company". I thought

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] about developers

I am not a developer, my skills lie in testing and writing documentation. Peter brought me into the project because I was doing this with OpenCDE. Projects need people with all kinds of skill sets; coding is nice, but good docs are also nice, so are people to answer questions on the mailing list

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Wiki cleanups

rence them so > > there should be no need for external images. > > > > I saw a few places where there were links to non-existent dropbox > > locations :) > > > > -jon > > On 06/08/2018 05:15 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: > >> I know the wiki needs ser

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Modernization and re-tooling

I couldn't find it in the archives but I remember a couple of years ago someone posted a tutorial for using sendmail and dtmail mail to read gmail. On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Robert Pangrazio wrote: > Just to put it out there, currently I have CDE running on Ubuntu 16.04 > using multiple

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [Ticket request] Use updated btree_berkeley files

Jon is correct, you should do your own work. Your contributions are in a public repository already, Sourceforge knows your name :-) However, such name calling will not be tolerated. I have been here about as long as Peter and Jon, I may be employee #3. So be respectful, please. On Sun, Jun 24,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:03 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 06/24/2018 06:00 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: > > I can't program at all. Looks like someone smarter than I will have to > > tackle this :-) > > > > I am sad :( > > Ok, what version of Arch are you running?

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

I can't program at all. Looks like someone smarter than I will have to tackle this :-) On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:56 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 06/24/2018 05:21 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: > > I have attacked the relevant error logs > > > > Well, no need to be hostile

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

gt; 2) what does "git show 8c1ad2d3" > > -jon > > On 06/24/2018 04:35 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: > > No, I'm saying despite rpcbind running and /etc/hosts set properly I am > > still getting the same error, ie " "Could not connect to ToolTalk..." >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

No, I'm saying despite rpcbind running and /etc/hosts set properly I am still getting the same error, ie " "Could not connect to ToolTalk..." On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 6:01 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > > > On 06/24/2018 03:56 PM, Christopher Turkel wrote: > > Rpcbind is

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

urrent master (8c1ad2d), you should not have to add your > hostname to /etc/hosts anymore. If you find that you do, I'd love to > hear about it... > > -jon > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Christopher Turkel > > mailto:turkel.christop...@gmail.com>> > wro

[cdesktopenv-devel] ArchLinux

I have gotten past the dthello hang in Archlinux. Now I get this: "Could not connect to ToolTalk message server: TT_ERR_NOMP No ttsession process is running, probably because tt_open() has not been called yet. If this code is returned from tt_open() it means ttsession could not be started,

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Proposing an official release in two weeks

I vote yes. On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 8:56 PM Matthew R. Trower wrote: > Affirmative. > > -mrt > Original Message > From: Jon Trulson > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 17:55 > To: cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] Proposing an official release in two weeks > >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] The sorry state of imake

I think autotools is a good choice, imake iscranky. On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 4:52 AM Matthew R. Trower wrote: > ‎I don't think imake is so bad, but it does have its limitations. If the > consensus is that we should move to autotools (the only reasonable > alternative that I'm aware of)‎, I

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Moving to MIT license

I see can see the political reasons for the move and software projects have moved licenses for worse reasons. I'd like a BSD license of some kind, I'd be in favor of it. On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:06 PM Matthew R. Trower wrote: > Jon Trulson writes: > > > Well, I'd like to move to an MIT

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Moving to MIT license

I don't see the point of moving to the MIT license, I'm not against it, I just don't see the point. On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 7:32 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > On 06/12/2018 05:22 PM, Chase wrote: > > The headers can be changed with a simple used find and replace. > > > > Which touches a lot of files

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE Development release?

I agree with this. I think it is time. On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 6:42 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > I was thinking of making a CDE development release (2.2.4a) tomorrow, > and then maybe a regular release (2.3.0) in a few weeks if master > doesn't change too much in the meantime. > > Thoughts? > > > --

[cdesktopenv-devel] Default fonts

What si the default font for the interface, like DTWM, etc? -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org!

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fixes for OpenBSD

1136.37 real 690.15 user 360.20 sys > > [henry@MacBSD ~]$ uname -a > OpenBSD MacBSD.localdomain 6.3 GENERIC.MP#3 amd64 > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Christopher Turkel < > turkel.christop...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I cannot wait for this to be

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fixes for OpenBSD

I cannot wait for this to be merged! I have switched to OpenBSD (mostly) I just need CDE now. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:48 PM Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > > This is my third patch. It fixes some problems so that OpenBSD > builds again. > It should also solve the tickets 62, 63, 70 and 72. > > Best

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fix Linux rpc problems with new glibc

How long until these are merged into master? Are we waiting for the BSD patches? On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:20 PM Jon Trulson wrote: > > > On 05/31/2018 03:49 PM, Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > > > > The second patch mainly cares about removed sunrpc support in glibc. > > This is a problem on newest

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fix BSD and Sun problems after coverity fixes

Will OpenBSD build now? On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 5:43 PM Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > On 05/31/18 23:15, Matthew R. Trower wrote: > > ‎Thanks for your work. Should Sun systems build and run now, or are more > fixes coming? > > In sum I've 4 patches. The others might only fix warnings for sun. But >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Screen locking On Debian

Oh ok. How do I do that? On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 5:06 PM alx wrote: > IIRC it did work on Linuxen. Just make sure dtsession is suid root. > > On 05/28/18 21:50, Christopher Turkel wrote: > > I thought we had this working before, but locking the screen on Debian > > does

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Screen locking On Debian

> *Subject: *Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Screen locking On Debian > > Oh ok. How do I do that? > > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 5:06 PM alx wrote: > >> IIRC it did work on Linuxen. Just make sure dtsession is suid root. >> >> On 05/28/18 21:50, Christopher Turkel wrote: >

[cdesktopenv-devel] Screen locking On Debian

I thought we had this working before, but locking the screen on Debian doesn't work. Has it ever worked? Does it need an external program? -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Name of debian package

cde-desktop. On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:11 PM Chase via cdesktopenv-devel < cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi all, > I have been thinking about how to name the debian package, I didn't want > to spend too much time on this as it would prevent me from actually getting > to make

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Broken BSD and Solaris systems

Having the BSDs build again would be awesome. On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:05 PM Ulrich Wilkens wrote: > On 05/26/18 00:16, Henry Bonath wrote: > > On these new BSD tests are the Patches listed here: > > https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/tickets/70/ going to be built-in? > >

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Removing support for discontinued Unixes

I don't have any problems with removing old Unix. Probably the only one I'd think twice about is UnixWare; I don't know how much its still used but its still a pretty recent thing, the switch to FreeBSD. I don't know anyone or any company using the older UnixWare and I doubt anyone would miss the

[cdesktopenv-devel] Full screen applications

Hi Has anyone else noticed neither CDE or MWM yields to full screen applications? They are always windowed and sometimes not even usable. -- ___ cdesktopenv-devel mailing list

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Full screen applications

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Brent Busby wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2015, alx wrote: > > > that might be because dtwm doesn't yet support freedesktop's extensions > > to the ICCC, which add WM hints for full screen window states, neither > > does MWM I suppose. And some

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] integration of GTK apps

I haven't encountered a qt program that doesn't pick up cde colors. On Wednesday, June 24, 2015, jzaremski jz78...@comcast.net wrote: it might be possible. Qt programs like VirtualBox, FreeCAD, and DraftSight pick up the current CDE color palette. On 06/24/2015 02:50 AM, Antonis Tsolomitis

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Request for access to update sourceforge OpenBSD wiki page

I'm all for letting you in. The more the merrier. Also, I must update the wiki regarding broken Archlinux support. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:34 PM Alex Madama amad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I’d like to get access to the sourceforge wiki to update the OpenBSD entry. Also, there is some other

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE on Ubuntu12.04LTS-LTSP5 works!

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote: As I reported in my previous messages CDE does not work on LTSP5 and Ubuntu10.04LTS. CDE freezes. However, I just checked with LTSP5 and Ubuntu12.04LTS and YES, it

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE on Ubuntu12.04LTS-LTSP5 works!

I must have missed that part. Sorry. Carry on. On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 6:37 PM Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Christopher Turkel wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] GDE, the GNU Desktop Environment (Was: Re: OS X and Autotools)

I've been with the CDE project pretty much from the start. 75% of the wiki is my work and despite my absence on IRC (new job, less time for the Internet) I still use CDE everyday. I don't really understand why it's so important to fork CDE. If you have deep philosophical differences with the

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] FreeBSD 10 clang port

I can update the wiki if you can't. -Original Message- From: Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com To: Ulrich Wilkens m...@uwilkens.de Cc: CDE development cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, Jul 27, 2014 4:24 pm Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] FreeBSD 10 clang port On

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Building on FreeBSD 10

Did you use GCC? -Original Message- From: Stephan Marwedel stephan.marwe...@tu-ilmenau.de To: cdesktopenv-devel cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 9:31 pm Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] Building on FreeBSD 10 Dear all, I have successfully build CDE on

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Patch for initial illumos port

cd cde rm lib/tt/lib/libtt.elist mkdir -p imports/x11/include ln -s /usr/include/X11 imports/x11/include make World.dev # fails; edit programs/Imakefile so as to remove # dtinfo, dtksh, dtappbuilder, ttsnoop from SUBDIRS make World.dev make -k install DESTDIR=/tmp/foo make -k

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Patch for initial illumos port

Now That the patch is accepted, I will make a wiki page :) -Original Message- From: Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com To: Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com Cc: cdesktopenv-devel cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sat, Mar 22, 2014 7:31 pm Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Patch

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fic cpp output on Ubuntu 13

Nice!I'll update the wiki. -Original Message- From: Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com To: Ulrich Wilkens m...@uwilkens.de Cc: CDE development cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 4:02 pm Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Fic cpp output on Ubuntu 13 On

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] NetBSD Instructions

-Original Message- From: Ulrich Wilkens m...@uwilkens.de To: Christopher Turkel turkelch...@aol.com Cc: cdesktopenv-devel cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 4:28 am Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] NetBSD Instructions On 03/09/14 03:31, Christopher Turkel

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE 2.2.1 released

This is GREAT news. I haven't been around IRC for a while because of insane work hours but I'm still here. Great, great news! -Original Message- From: Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com To: Antonis Tsolomitis antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com Cc: CDE development

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Complete Slackware 14.0 build step!

I'd be happy to update the wiki if someone gives me instructions that work. I don't use Slackware so someone will have to test it. It's always a good idea to build from git. Like the instruction page says, when in doubt, build from the source. -Original Message- From: Edmond Orignac

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] New default color scheme

-Original Message- From: Antonis Tsolomitis antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com To: szt0922 szt0...@gmail.com Cc: cdesktopenv-devel cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 3:57 am Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] New default color scheme Now, has anybody

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Updated DTlogin LSB Scipt README

Until you mentioned this, I thought I had rewrote the wiki page. My bad. -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite.

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Daily snapshots on source forge?

-Original Message- From: Jelle Hermsen je...@jellehermsen.nl To: cdesktopenv-devel cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 3:16 pm Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] Daily snapshots on source forge? Hiya everybody, I'm currently switching to using the

[cdesktopenv-devel] OpenBSD

Hi Can someone tell me the status of the OpenBSD port? If there are any special build instructions that should be on the wiki, etc. Thanks -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Two fixes for dtmail

-Original Message- From: Ulrich Wilkens m...@uwilkens.de To: cdesktopenv-devel cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, Aug 29, 2012 9:52 pm Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] [PATCH] Two fixes for dtmail This one fixes a bug where suid bit is needed for dtmail on BSD

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] NetBSD and DragonFly BSD port

-Original Message- From: Jelle Hermsen je...@jellehermsen.nl To: cdesktopenv-devel cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 3:08 am Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] NetBSD and DragonFly BSD port Hiya everybody, Yesterday I found out about CDE being open sourced. I'm

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE from git master + Marcin Cieslak's patches bringup on freebsd9 64bit

Since I'm not a coder, can someone tell me how to apply the FreeBSD patches mentioned in those two emails? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat

Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] CDE from git master working on RHEL 6.3 x86_64 (fwd)

Hi. I maintain the CDE wiki. Thanks for trying CDE on Red Hat. I will post your notes to the wiki for other users to see. CDE comes with it's own imake as you figured out. I would not recommend a user install imake. Once you set /usr/dt/bin in your $PATH any application needing it will find

[cdesktopenv-devel] Supported Distributions/Platforms

Hi all I have updated the supported platforms page: https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/SupportedPlatforms/ The newest additions are Fedora 17 and Archlinux. If you have something working that is not on that list, would you please post it here so I can update the wiki? Include any

[cdesktopenv-devel] New README

Below is my revised proposed README-2.2.0 - ** The Common Desktop Eviroment is released under the terms of the LGPL V.2 license. You may reuse