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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build repaired (sort of)

2020-11-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton

I can get a stair stepping easily enough on most terminal emulators (this was 
Solaris 10 CDE dtterm):
$ stty -onlcr
$ 
  $ 
$ 
  $ stty sane
 $ 
$ 
$ 
So maybe for some reason, it was bringing up the pseudo-terminal with the wrong 
tty modes. :-)
> On Nov 24, 2020, at 16:39, Antonis Tsolomitis  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You are right. I got confused with Ubuntu in which installation of a service 
> enables it and runs it as well.
> In Arch it needs to me explicitly enabled, and I forgot this. 
> 
> So, everything is fine on Arch and Manjaro the only additional step is to 
> install rpcsvc-proto.
> 
> On Debian testing I still have to learn why dtterm stair-steps the prompts 
> until it is reset.
> (this problem does not appear on Arch).
> 
> Thanks for all the help,
> 
> Antonis.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/24/20 6:56 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote:
>> That error means you don't have the rpcbind service running
>> 
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 17:54, Antonis Tsolomitis 
>> mailto:antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> True. So the package 
>> 
>> rpcsvc-proto
>> 
>> needs to be installed on Arch/Manjaro. This information is missing from 
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Archlinux_Build/#install-packages 
>> 
>> 
>> Can it be added?
>> 
>> Now libcsa has been compiled and installed. The problem however persists on 
>> Manjaro.
>> ttsession (although build and installed):
>> 
>> "The desktop messaging system could not be started"
>> 1. Click OK etc etc
>> 
>> On another window:
>> "A ToolTalk connection could not be established.. no ttsession 
>> process is running".
>> 
>> These are typical errors for CDE from the past. So what to look for should 
>> be known to
>> experts of the CDE code. So, any idea how to debug?
>> 
>> Antonis.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/24/20 3:25 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote:
>>> If libcsa isn't built, you're most likely missing rpcgen on your system
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 14:20, Antonis Tsolomitis 
>>> mailto:antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> On 11/24/20 7:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote:
 
 I've pushed a series of patches to master that should resolve the GCC 10 
 build issues. Hopefully that will be enough to get the Fedora build 
 working, but I've only tested it on Debian.
 
 Peter
 
 -- 
 Peter Howkins
 peter.howk...@marutan.net 
 https://www.marutan.net/ 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes it compiles on Debian testing. However there are some problems in 
>>> dtterm shown in attached screenshot.
>>> I remember this is an old problem but I forgot its solution. At the 
>>> beggining of the screenshot I enabled Return and Line feed
>>> so no stairs get priduced. But then I can not use mv -i as I get the prompt 
>>> immediately after the overwrite question.
>>> 
>>> On ManjaroLinux/Arch it compiles but libcsa does not get produced.
>>> The make log for Manjaro is located here
>>> https://myria.math.aegean.gr/~atsol/tmp/make.log 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Moreover, the desktop does not start on Manjaro/Arch... it complains about 
>>> /etc/hosts and the messaging system that does not get started.
>>> I do not know if this is related to libcsa.
>>> 
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[cdesktopenv-devel] CDE Builds

2020-11-24 Thread Danilo Pecher

Hi everybody,

I'd like to summarize some of the things we've learned over the last three
days:

1. The good news - most of the Builds have been repaired. NetBSD, Fedora,
CentOS and some intransigent Debian derivatives build again. If you still
run into problems, please make sure to produce a log files, so it can be
looked at by using this sequence to build :

make World 2>$1 | tee cde-make.log

Please note: on BSD variants, you might need to build and use bash for the
stderr->stdout redirection to work.

If you want to investigate the log file yourself, search for the sequences

*error:*and

[ *
to find any possible errors. Not all break the build, but will result in
missing files during installation.

One error that recently came up is the failure to build libcsa. If you see
that error, your system lacks a tool called rpcgen. failure to build libcsa
in turn breaks the build of the documentation files, which was the main
reason for so many platforms failing to build.

Speaking of which: I've tested between several platforms and could confirm
that the documentation files are platform independent. That means we can
take them out of the build process in the autotool conversion and just ship
a pre-processed package. I'll prepare such a package over the weekend.

Cheers,
Danilo
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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build repaired (sort of)

2020-11-24 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis


  
  

  You are right. I got confused with Ubuntu in which installation of
  a service enables it and runs it as well.
  In Arch it needs to me explicitly enabled, and I forgot this. 
  
  So, everything is fine on Arch and Manjaro the only additional
  step is to install rpcsvc-proto.
  
  On Debian testing I still have to learn why dtterm stair-steps the
  prompts until it is reset.
  (this problem does not appear on Arch).
  
  Thanks for all the help,
  
  Antonis.
  
  
  
  On 11/24/20 6:56 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote:


  
  That error means you don't have the rpcbind service
running
  
  
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 17:54,
  Antonis Tsolomitis 
  wrote:


  

  
  True. So the package 
  
  rpcsvc-proto
  
  needs to be installed on Arch/Manjaro. This information is
  missing from 
  
  https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Archlinux_Build/#install-packages
  
  Can it be added?
  
  Now libcsa has been compiled and installed. The problem
  however persists on Manjaro.
  ttsession (although build and installed):
  
  "The desktop messaging system could not be started"
  1. Click OK etc etc
  
  On another window:
  "A ToolTalk connection could not be established..
  no ttsession process is running".
  
  These are typical errors for CDE from the past. So what to
  look for should be known to
  experts of the CDE code. So, any idea how to debug?
  
  Antonis.
  
  
  On 11/24/20 3:25 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote:


  If libcsa isn't built, you're most likely
missing rpcgen on your system
  
  
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at
  14:20, Antonis Tsolomitis 
  wrote:


  
On 11/24/20 7:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote:


  


I've pushed a series of patches to master
  that should resolve the GCC 10 build issues.
  Hopefully that will be enough to get the
  Fedora build working, but I've only tested it
  on Debian.


Peter


  -- 
  

  
Peter Howkins

peter.howk...@marutan.net
  
  https://www.marutan.net/

  

  
  




Yes it compiles on Debian testing. However there are
some problems in dtterm shown in attached
screenshot.
I remember this is an old problem but I forgot its
solution. At the beggining of the screenshot I
enabled Return and Line feed
so no stairs get priduced. But then I can not use mv
-i as I get the prompt immediately after the
overwrite question.

On ManjaroLinux/Arch it compiles but libcsa does not
get produced.
The make log for Manjaro is located here
https://myria.math.aegean.gr/~atsol/tmp/make.log

Moreover, the desktop does not start on
Manjaro/Arch... it complains about /etc/hosts and
the messaging system that does not get started.
I do not know if this is related to libcsa.

Antonis.
  
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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build repaired (sort of)

2020-11-24 Thread Danilo Pecher

That error means you don't have the rpcbind service running

On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 17:54, Antonis Tsolomitis <
antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> True. So the package
>
> rpcsvc-proto
>
> needs to be installed on Arch/Manjaro. This information is missing from
>
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Archlinux_Build/#install-packages
>
> Can it be added?
>
> Now libcsa has been compiled and installed. The problem however persists
> on Manjaro.
> ttsession (although build and installed):
>
> "The desktop messaging system could not be started"
> 1. Click OK etc etc
>
> On another window:
> "A ToolTalk connection could not be established.. no ttsession
> process is running".
>
> These are typical errors for CDE from the past. So what to look for should
> be known to
> experts of the CDE code. So, any idea how to debug?
>
> Antonis.
>
>
> On 11/24/20 3:25 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote:
>
> If libcsa isn't built, you're most likely missing rpcgen on your system
>
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 14:20, Antonis Tsolomitis <
> antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/20 7:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've pushed a series of patches to master that should resolve the GCC 10
>> build issues. Hopefully that will be enough to get the Fedora build
>> working, but I've only tested it on Debian.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --
>> Peter Howkins
>> peter.howk...@marutan.net
>> https://www.marutan.net/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes it compiles on Debian testing. However there are some problems in
>> dtterm shown in attached screenshot.
>> I remember this is an old problem but I forgot its solution. At the
>> beggining of the screenshot I enabled Return and Line feed
>> so no stairs get priduced. But then I can not use mv -i as I get the
>> prompt immediately after the overwrite question.
>>
>> On ManjaroLinux/Arch it compiles but libcsa does not get produced.
>> The make log for Manjaro is located here
>> https://myria.math.aegean.gr/~atsol/tmp/make.log
>>
>> Moreover, the desktop does not start on Manjaro/Arch... it complains
>> about /etc/hosts and the messaging system that does not get started.
>> I do not know if this is related to libcsa.
>>
>> Antonis.
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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build repaired (sort of)

2020-11-24 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis


  
  

  
  True. So the package 
  
  rpcsvc-proto
  
  needs to be installed on Arch/Manjaro. This information is missing
  from 
  
  https://sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/wiki/Archlinux_Build/#install-packages
  
  Can it be added?
  
  Now libcsa has been compiled and installed. The problem however
  persists on Manjaro.
  ttsession (although build and installed):
  
  "The desktop messaging system could not be started"
  1. Click OK etc etc
  
  On another window:
  "A ToolTalk connection could not be established.. no
  ttsession process is running".
  
  These are typical errors for CDE from the past. So what to look
  for should be known to
  experts of the CDE code. So, any idea how to debug?
  
  Antonis.
  
  
  On 11/24/20 3:25 PM, Danilo Pecher wrote:


  
  If libcsa isn't built, you're most likely missing
rpcgen on your system
  
  
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 14:20,
  Antonis Tsolomitis 
  wrote:


  
On 11/24/20 7:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote:


  


I've pushed a series of patches to master that
  should resolve the GCC 10 build issues. Hopefully that
  will be enough to get the Fedora build working, but
  I've only tested it on Debian.


Peter


  -- 
  

  
Peter Howkins

peter.howk...@marutan.net
  
  https://www.marutan.net/

  

  
  




Yes it compiles on Debian testing. However there are some
problems in dtterm shown in attached screenshot.
I remember this is an old problem but I forgot its solution.
At the beggining of the screenshot I enabled Return and Line
feed
so no stairs get priduced. But then I can not use mv -i as I
get the prompt immediately after the overwrite question.

On ManjaroLinux/Arch it compiles but libcsa does not get
produced.
The make log for Manjaro is located here
https://myria.math.aegean.gr/~atsol/tmp/make.log

Moreover, the desktop does not start on Manjaro/Arch... it
complains about /etc/hosts and the messaging system that
does not get started.
I do not know if this is related to libcsa.

Antonis.
  
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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build repaired (sort of)

2020-11-24 Thread Danilo Pecher

If libcsa isn't built, you're most likely missing rpcgen on your system

On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 14:20, Antonis Tsolomitis <
antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/24/20 7:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote:
>
>
> I've pushed a series of patches to master that should resolve the GCC 10
> build issues. Hopefully that will be enough to get the Fedora build
> working, but I've only tested it on Debian.
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Peter Howkins
> peter.howk...@marutan.net
> https://www.marutan.net/
>
>
>
>
> Yes it compiles on Debian testing. However there are some problems in
> dtterm shown in attached screenshot.
> I remember this is an old problem but I forgot its solution. At the
> beggining of the screenshot I enabled Return and Line feed
> so no stairs get priduced. But then I can not use mv -i as I get the
> prompt immediately after the overwrite question.
>
> On ManjaroLinux/Arch it compiles but libcsa does not get produced.
> The make log for Manjaro is located here
> https://myria.math.aegean.gr/~atsol/tmp/make.log
>
> Moreover, the desktop does not start on Manjaro/Arch... it complains about
> /etc/hosts and the messaging system that does not get started.
> I do not know if this is related to libcsa.
>
> Antonis.
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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build repaired (sort of)

2020-11-24 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis


  
  

  True. 
  
  reset
  
  fixes the problem.
  
  A.
  
  
  
  On 11/24/20 3:22 PM, danilo.schoeneb...@googlemail.com wrote:


  
  
  
  
As
an interim workaround, just call reset on the prompt to
reinitialize the terminal
 

  
From: Antonis Tsolomitis
   
  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 2:20 PM
  To: Peter Howkins 
  Cc: CDE development
  
  Subject: Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build
  repaired (sort of)
  

 

  On 11/24/20 7:57 AM, Peter Howkins wrote:


  

   


  I've pushed a series of patches to
master that should resolve the GCC 10 build issues.
Hopefully that will be enough to get the Fedora build
working, but I've only tested it on Debian.


   


  Peter


  
-- 
  

  

  Peter Howkins

peter.howk...@marutan.net
  
  https://www.marutan.net/

  

  
   


  
  
  Yes it compiles on Debian testing. However there are some
  problems in dtterm shown in attached screenshot.
  I remember this is an old problem but I forgot its solution.
  At the beggining of the screenshot I enabled Return and Line
  feed
  so no stairs get priduced. But then I can not use mv -i as I
  get the prompt immediately after the overwrite question.
  
  On ManjaroLinux/Arch it compiles but libcsa does not get
  produced.
  The make log for Manjaro is located here
  https://myria.math.aegean.gr/~atsol/tmp/make.log
  
  Moreover, the desktop does not start on Manjaro/Arch... it
  complains about /etc/hosts and the messaging system that does
  not get started.
  I do not know if this is related to libcsa.
  
  Antonis.
  


  


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Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Fedora Build repaired (sort of)

2020-11-24 Thread Antonis Tsolomitis


  
  
On 11/24/20 7:57 AM, Peter Howkins
  wrote:


  
  


I've pushed a series of patches to master that should
  resolve the GCC 10 build issues. Hopefully that will be enough
  to get the Fedora build working, but I've only tested it on
  Debian.


Peter


  -- 
  

  
Peter Howkins

peter.howk...@marutan.net
  
  https://www.marutan.net/

  

  
  




Yes it compiles on Debian testing. However there are some problems
in dtterm shown in attached screenshot.
I remember this is an old problem but I forgot its solution. At the
beggining of the screenshot I enabled Return and Line feed
so no stairs get priduced. But then I can not use mv -i as I get the
prompt immediately after the overwrite question.

On ManjaroLinux/Arch it compiles but libcsa does not get produced.
The make log for Manjaro is located here
https://myria.math.aegean.gr/~atsol/tmp/make.log

Moreover, the desktop does not start on Manjaro/Arch... it complains
about /etc/hosts and the messaging system that does not get started.
I do not know if this is related to libcsa.

Antonis.
  

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