On 12/10/20 10:50 AM, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 12/9/20 8:54 AM, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC
>> (USA) via CentOS wrote:
>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
>>> mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> CentOS Stream is
Am 10.12.20 um 18:09 schrieb Matthew Miller:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:
That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream
updates the moment they become available. But I still don't
Am 10.12.20 um 18:02 schrieb Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS:
On Dec 10, 2020, at 11:50 AM, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling release
and we will never know what we are really running. Is this
On 12/10/2020 9:08 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:50:00AM -0500, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling
release and we will never know what we are really running. Is this
correct?
No, this is not the case. There
On 10/12/2020 17:20, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:11:51PM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for
their deployment in a large-scale academic setting.
Do you not see the huge irony here?
Why should a sysadmin have
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:20 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:11:51PM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > > Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for
> > > their deployment in a large-scale academic setting.
> > >
> > Do you not see the huge irony
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:09 AM Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL
> (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:
> > That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream
> > updates the moment they become available.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:11:51PM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for
> > their deployment in a large-scale academic setting.
> >
> Do you not see the huge irony here?
> Why should a sysadmin have to do this?
> We shouldn't.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:09 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL
> (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:
> > That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream
> > updates the moment they become available.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:
> That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream
> updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why nearly
> no one is going for the idea
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:50:00AM -0500, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
> So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling
> release and we will never know what we are really running. Is this
> correct?
No, this is not the case. There will be continuous updates, but all of these
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:02 PM Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 2020, at 11:50 AM, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
> >
> > So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling
> release
> > and we will never know what we are
> On Dec 10, 2020, at 11:50 AM, m...@tdiehl.org wrote:
>
> So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling
> release
> and we will never know what we are really running. Is this correct?
That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream
updates
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:54 AM, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC
(USA) via CentOS wrote:
On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So if
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:54 PM Simon Matter wrote:
> [...]
> Do you mean something like this?
>
> https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos2ol.sh
> [...]
Haven't tried this one, but yes, this is from a principal point of view
what I mean.
Kind regards Thomas
--
Linux ... enjoy the ride!
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> [...]
>> In the cases where RHEL + 0.1 (note not +1) won't work, I think it's
>> incredibly likely that this will be covered by the expanded low- and
>> no-cost
>> RHEL offerings.
>>
>> Part of the buried lede here is that with more RHEL
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 7:19 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> [...]
> In the cases where RHEL + 0.1 (note not +1) won't work, I think it's
> incredibly likely that this will be covered by the expanded low- and
> no-cost
> RHEL offerings.
>
> Part of the buried lede here is that with more RHEL
On 12/9/20 12:55 PM, James Szinger wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:22:15 -0500
> Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
>>> If the same happened in the previous question but was in a package
>>> or set of packages that was being rebased in 8.5
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:22:15 -0500
Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
> > If the same happened in the previous question but was in a package
> > or set of packages that was being rebased in 8.5 would it work the
> > same way?
>
> Hmmm. I'm not
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 06:26:22PM +, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:
> > Absolutely. The only path into RHEL minor releases that isn't through Stream
> > is for CVEs and other embargoed changes. And those will go back into Stream
> > as soon as they
On 12/9/2020 10:18 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:03:42PM +, Laack, Andrea P wrote:
The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS for
test will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase
double the number of RHEL licenses
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:03:42PM +, Laack, Andrea P wrote:
> > The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS
> for
> > test will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase
> > double the
> On Dec 9, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
>> If a bug were to make it into CentOS Stream, and identified before
>> RHEL 8.4 was released, would an updated/fixed package be produced
>> and placed into CentOS Stream?
>
>
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:58:10AM -0600, Barry Brimer wrote:
> If a bug were to make it into CentOS Stream, and identified before
> RHEL 8.4 was released, would an updated/fixed package be produced
> and placed into CentOS Stream?
Absolutely. The only path into RHEL minor releases that isn't
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:03:42PM +, Laack, Andrea P wrote:
> The companies that pay for RHEL licenses for production and use CentOS for
> test will be left with a large problem. They will either need to purchase
> double the number of RHEL licenses and switch to RHEL for testing or go to
>
On 09.12.2020 18:12, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 11:01 AM, Walter H. wrote:
On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
in comparison to CentOS 8?
CentOS Stream is built from the
Am 09.12.20 um 18:12 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
On 12/9/20 11:01 AM, Walter H. wrote:
On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
in comparison to CentOS 8?
CentOS Stream is built from the
On 12/9/20 11:01 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
>>> p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
>>> in comparison to CentOS 8?
>> CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source
On 09.12.2020 15:45, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
p.s. can someone tell in as short as possible what this CentOS Stream is
in comparison to CentOS 8?
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is
Am 09.12.20 um 15:54 schrieb Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393)
Washington DC (USA) via CentOS:
On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the
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On Wed, 9 Dec 2020, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/9/20 8:54 AM, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC
(USA) via CentOS wrote:
On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So
On 12/9/20 8:54 AM, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC
(USA) via CentOS wrote:
> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
> mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
>
> CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
>
> So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is
On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Johnny Hughes
mailto:joh...@centos.org>> wrote:
CentOS Stream is built from the currently released RHEL Source Code + 0.1
So if RHEL 8.3 is released .. Stream is the Source Code (built) that
will become 8.4 in a few months.
If this statement is exactly correct, then
On 12/9/20 8:41 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just tried installing a VM from the stream ISO and it worked;
>
> the only thing I would like to have changed as a default config is
>
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" net.ifnames=0 ..."
>
> the reason, I find eth0, eth1, eth2 easier to use than
Hello,
I just tried installing a VM from the stream ISO and it worked;
the only thing I would like to have changed as a default config is
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" net.ifnames=0 ..."
the reason, I find eth0, eth1, eth2 easier to use than cryptic names
like ens33 or ens0p3 or so;
Walter
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