Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-05 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 6/5/2017 7:21 AM, Warren Young wrote: On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:13 AM, hw wrote: Perl is pretty fast, and most of the work is being done by the database, so I´m not sure how using an alternative to CGI could make things go faster. There are many reasons CGI is relatively slow.

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-05 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:13 AM, hw wrote: > > I´m using CGI as a simple > means for the users to use the programs...There are less than 10 users. If we’re talking less than one full page hit per second, then it doesn’t much matter what technology you use. You won’t be able to tell

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-03 Thread hw
Warren Young wrote: On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:05 AM, hw wrote: Warren Young wrote: There are various options. We use mod_fcgid + Plack here. I need to look into that when I have time. I wonder if it wouldn’t have been faster to just backport the app to Perl 5.16? How hard

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-02 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:05 AM, hw wrote: > > Warren Young wrote: >> >> There are various options. We use mod_fcgid + Plack here. > I need to look into that when I have time. I wonder if it wouldn’t have been faster to just backport the app to Perl 5.16? How hard could it be?

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-02 Thread hw
Nikolaos Milas wrote: On 2/6/2017 2:05 μμ, hw wrote: That´s a good thing, though it can be difficult to run systems using ancient software. You may want to check the following paradigm (from another open source perl-based application) to create a Perl environment within your system,

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-02 Thread Nikolaos Milas
On 2/6/2017 2:05 μμ, hw wrote: That´s a good thing, though it can be difficult to run systems using ancient software. You may want to check the following paradigm (from another open source perl-based application) to create a Perl environment within your system, avoiding to tamper with it:

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-02 Thread hw
Warren Young wrote: On May 24, 2017, at 1:58 PM, hw wrote: It seems that lighttpd uses the perl version that is assigned in the configuration This is one of the advantages of Plack vs mod_perl, by the way: decoupling the Perl version from the web server version. while

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-02 Thread hw
Warren Young wrote: On May 24, 2017, at 9:38 AM, hw wrote: Warren Young schrieb: On May 24, 2017, at 7:05 AM, hw wrote: apache uses mod_perl mod_perl was dropped from Apache in 2.4, and Red Hat followed suit with RHEL 7. What is it using instead? There

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/24/2017 03:16 PM, hw wrote: > Johnny Hughes schrieb: >> On 05/23/2017 11:44 AM, hw wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in >>> Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the >>> state feature is required. >> >> As a side note, here is

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-25 Thread James Szinger
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:02 AM, hw wrote: > > Ah, yes, that does work. Sorry, I guess it was signatures rather > than state. I´m getting > > > Feature "signatures" is not supported by Perl 5.16.3 at ... > > > with CGI scripts. And who knows what else might cause problems. > >

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Pete Biggs
> > The problem is that the expensive POS software doesn´t run on Centos > because the perl version Centos uses is too old. Life is a compromise. If the expensive POS software isn't designed to run on RHEL/CentOS then you will need to run it on a different OS. I know your desire is to keep

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Christian, Mark
On Wed, 2017-05-24 at 16:35 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:16:15PM +0200, hw wrote: > > Johnny Hughes schrieb: > > > On 05/23/2017 11:44 AM, hw wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > > > > Centos 7 with a more

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:16:15PM +0200, hw wrote: > Johnny Hughes schrieb: > > On 05/23/2017 11:44 AM, hw wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > > > Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the > > > state feature is required.

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Johnny Hughes schrieb: On 05/23/2017 11:44 AM, hw wrote: Hi, are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the state feature is required. As a side note, here is why RHEL (and therefore CentOS, since we rebuild RHEL source

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 1:58 PM, hw wrote: > > It seems that lighttpd uses the perl version that is assigned in > the configuration This is one of the advantages of Plack vs mod_perl, by the way: decoupling the Perl version from the web server version. > while ignoring the

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Paul Heinlein schrieb: On Wed, 24 May 2017, hw wrote: Paul Heinlein schrieb: On Tue, 23 May 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > hw wrote: > > > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > > Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the > > state feature is

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/23/2017 11:44 AM, hw wrote: > > Hi, > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the > state feature is required. As a side note, here is why RHEL (and therefore CentOS, since we rebuild RHEL source code to create our

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 9:38 AM, hw wrote: > > Warren Young schrieb: >> On May 24, 2017, at 7:05 AM, hw wrote: >>> apache uses mod_perl >> >> mod_perl was dropped from Apache in 2.4, and Red Hat followed suit with RHEL >> 7. > > What is it using instead? There are

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Warren Young schrieb: On May 24, 2017, at 7:05 AM, hw wrote: apache uses mod_perl mod_perl was dropped from Apache in 2.4, and Red Hat followed suit with RHEL 7. What is it using instead? The rh-httpd24 does not seem to use a more recent version of perl. But there is a

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Warren Young schrieb: On May 24, 2017, at 6:02 AM, hw wrote: Warren Young schrieb: CentOS 5 just left supported status, which shipped Perl 5.8.8 from first release to last Living in the past seldwhen is a good idea. I don’t propose to teach you about my problems — they

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 24 May 2017, hw wrote: Paul Heinlein schrieb: On Tue, 23 May 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > hw wrote: > > > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > > Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the > > state feature is required. Perl 5.24 is

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, May 24, 2017 8:46 am, Warren Young wrote: > On May 24, 2017, at 6:02 AM, hw wrote: >> >> Warren Young schrieb: >>> >>> CentOS 5 just left supported status, which shipped Perl 5.8.8 from >>> first release to last >> >> Living in the past seldwhen is a good idea. > > I

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 7:05 AM, hw wrote: > apache uses mod_perl mod_perl was dropped from Apache in 2.4, and Red Hat followed suit with RHEL 7. > But there is a package 'rh-perl524-mod_perl’. That must be someone’s backport. As someone who migrated a mod_perl based app off of

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 6:02 AM, hw wrote: > > Warren Young schrieb: >> >> CentOS 5 just left supported status, which shipped Perl 5.8.8 from first >> release to last > > Living in the past seldwhen is a good idea. I don’t propose to teach you about my problems — they are, after

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Pete Biggs schrieb: If this sort of stance seems risible to you, you probably shouldn’t be using CentOS. This is what distinguishes a “stable” type of OS from a “bleeding edge” one. When a version of a software has been released 20 years ago, that doesn´t mean it´s more stable than a

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Pete Biggs schrieb: Thanks, I tried rh-perl, and it worked for a test. It does not replace the existing perl installation. You have to explicitly use that version. Yes, that's how SCL works. A lot of system software uses perl (and python and gcc) so replacing the installed version

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Pete Biggs
> > > If this sort of stance seems risible to you, you probably shouldn’t > > be using CentOS. This is what distinguishes a “stable” type of OS > > from a “bleeding edge” one. > > When a version of a software has been released 20 years ago, > that doesn´t mean it´s more stable than a version

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Thanks, I tried rh-perl, and it worked for a test. It does not replace the > existing > perl installation. You have to explicitly use that version. Yes, that's how SCL works. A lot of system software uses perl (and python and gcc) so replacing the installed version without testing the

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Paul Heinlein schrieb: On Tue, 23 May 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: hw wrote: are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the state feature is required. Perl 5.24 is available in SCL, in the centos-sclo-rh repository.

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread hw
Warren Young schrieb: On May 23, 2017, at 10:44 AM, hw wrote: are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? Since when is Perl 5.16 “ancient?” It’s only 4 years old. CentOS 5 just left supported status, which shipped

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-23 Thread Leon Fauster
> Am 23.05.2017 um 18:56 schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: > > hw wrote: >> >> are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in >> Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the >> state feature is required. > > Don't call it ancient, boy, or I'll beat you with my cane! > > Have you

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-23 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Tue, 23 May 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: hw wrote: are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the state feature is required. Perl 5.24 is available in SCL, in the centos-sclo-rh repository. [root ~]# yum info

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-23 Thread Warren Young
On May 23, 2017, at 10:44 AM, hw wrote: > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? Since when is Perl 5.16 “ancient?” It’s only 4 years old. CentOS 5 just left supported status, which shipped Perl 5.8.8 from

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-23 Thread m . roth
hw wrote: > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? At least the > state feature is required. Don't call it ancient, boy, or I'll beat you with my cane! Have you checked the Software Collections? mark