Re: CF Job Market
as a criteria because there aren't any questions on the exam about the philosophy of OO design and architecture. Which leaves me thinking that the only tool we would have to communicate our ability to adapt is personal assurance. Is that really the best available method of proving our abilities? -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4117 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: lists question
absolutely not, Michael is pretty forgiving in managing his lists, but CF-Jobs and CF-Jobs talk may need to be more actively and forcefully moderated. And the mistaken posts seem to me to generally be one-directional, posted to cf-jobs rather than cf-jobs-talk. People who are actually posting jobs or availability generally seem to hit the right list. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: lists question
Ugh. Sorry. I'm posting with a 102 degree fever and taking care of a 5 year old. :) DOE. Depending on Experience. Basically, tell us what you are willing to pay. I hate countering the question of how much I'll accept with How much is your budget. :) Might just want to reframe the response. I don't care for people saying DOE and asking me to set their budget either... but I might frame the response as You'll have to make an offer if you're interested in hiring me. How much is my experience worth to you? -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4105 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Survey?
Hey Will... I'd be interested. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:4007 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: What Cold Fusion Job boards are there?
Sorry if this is a repost. It bounced as a body too long :) The wording on those messages is a little misleading I think... The messages don't actually bounce, it's just a reminder to trim, but the message does actually go through to the list. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3995 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Dead Beat Clients.
In fact, I'm probably treated a bit better because in Connecticut, web development services are exempt from sales tax, which is one less headache I have to deal with. I thought sales tax only applied to product. Am I like way out of touch? -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 503.236.3691 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3635 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Dead Beat Clients.
I think that is normally the case, I am seeming to recall certain forms of labor in some of our businesses we had to do sales tax on. One could maybe debate if code is a product though. I would think it would at least depend on who owns the copyright. If you're selling a license and retaining the copyright then there's a case for it being a product. If they get the copyright, then it's definitely a service, same as any other work for hire. Though I suppose it might be arguable that the license to use someone else's intellectual property is a service -- I'm not that familiar with IP law though, so I know that's out of my depth. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 503.236.3691 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3637 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Consultant's Revenge
What about the flip-side of that coin ... A site for employers to review their contracted hire. Why not build both into the site with the ability to tag them together and to facilitate conflict resolution? This could be quite the lucritive venture if done properly. The way I understand it, some variation of theme is already built into rentacoder.com for example... There are a couple of problems with that, one being that it's just for projects contracted through rentacoder and the other being that rentacoder is like a lot of sites / software a great example of now not to design ergonomic software that people can actually use. ymmv -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 503.236.3691 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3596 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CFHTTP Expert Needed For Problem Today
This is a wild stab in the dark, and may have nothing to do
with your issue, but looking at the code I would recommend
changing Find('offerToken=' in your GetToken1 helper
function with FindNoCase. I don't think eBay is likely to
have that string in their page more than once with different
capitalization, but if someone at eBay happened to change
the caps in that string even accidentally, then the
FindNoCase will continue to work. I'll keep looking at this
a bit more and see if I see anything else.
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 12:40:30 EST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have code that I need fixed and I'm willing to pay $250 to the first
person who gets it (probably a very simple problem). I am also willing to
pay $50
for your time if you solve it and are not the first to solve it, but are
within the first five people to solve it. The code, which is posted below,
bids
on ebay and has worked up until today. eBay periodically their pages/login
system and our current code is missing something that logs the user in
(possibly
dealing with cookies and passing a token). This is urgent.
The code posted below simply makes a CFHTTP Post call to an ebay page, and
attempts to get back a confirmation page. The problem is with the login, so I
would suggest if, when you run the code, nothing comes to mind, write a
short
procedure that just logs into ebay using the test account provided.
Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you have
any
questions, to talk about this problem, or would like to submit a solution.
Code: _http://65.182.215.250/testebay.zip_
(http://65.182.215.250/testebay.zip)
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RE: recruiters with english as a second language
Everybody's different from somebody. That doesn't make them any less valuable, or worthy of respect. I just want to clarify that, I don't think badly of these recruiters as people. It's frustrating for me because of the context in which the language barrier is presented. A language barrier is always frustrating; nobody likes to have a misunderstanding, even when both people speak a common language fluently. So when you notice a sudden and dramatic increase in the likelyhood for misunderstanding during a conversation, it raises an obvious concern about the possibility for miscommunication. In trivial conversations about movies or sports, the concern is trivial; in non-trivial conversations about pay-rates and hours worked, the concern is non-trivial. In a conversation with a recruiter there are additional factors which amplify this concern, such as the fact that a recruiter is someone whom you have usually not previously met and therefore have had no opportunity to acclimatize yourself to their individual accent, mannerisms or word selection. You're also speaking to someone who has a vested interest in placing you with a job (for their commission) and who will most likely not speak to you after you are placed, which eliminates the vested interest another person such as an ongoing business partner would have in acclimating the relationship to improve communication in the future, and in all probability eliminates much if not all of the vested interest the recruiter has in your own personal well-being. Even recruiters who speak a common language fluently have been known to lie to job-seekers (by omission if nothing else) to preserve their interest in the commission when the job-seeker's interests would not be well served by the employer. The only condition which is likely to change their interest in the outcome is an ongoing relationship with a larger company which hires many of its recruits through their agency, but you can't count on that sort of relationship in more than at most half of the recruiters you talk with. Further the hiring process is short and often rushed, and even when all parties are genuinely interested in the best possible fit, the simple lack of experience with one another is another source of increasingly likely miscommunication. With a single company you're not likely to spend more than 3 hours or so in interview prior to being hired, compared to the 40 hrs of exposure you'll have to that company in your first week of employment, so by the time you're hired, you are really likely to know very little about the company, and of course both the job-seeker and the employer are liable to massage their own outward appearances (possibly stretching the truth or lying by omission -- we try to keep overtime to a minimum here minimum=5hrs per week) because each is courting the other to serve their own interests. The end result is that I'm already a little anxious about choosing the right job because I know that there's already an increased likelyhood for miscommunication during the interview process and because myself, the employer and the recruiter all have different and frequently non-mutual interests in the outcome. So when I say that I don't like talking with recruiters who have a poor grasp of our common language (English) or who speak with such thick accents that it's difficult for me to understand them, I'm concerned about my own personal well-being; I will work the job months or years into the future, the recruiter will not. To respond to the previous comment about English being the sword which is used to divide people, my aversion to this situation has absolutely bupkiss, zero, zilch, nada, NOTHING to do with my not wanting to be in contact with their tribe. In a social context, I'll immerse myself in nearly any tribe (barring violence which is why I exclude Snoop Dog's tribe), and given an opportunity I'll learn their language. In school I learned some french and a little less spanish. I would GLADLY interview in French for a job in Canada, France or Monaco if I honestly felt fluent in my grasp of that language. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2999 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: recruiters with english as a second language
By the way, I saw the () in your Middle East reference, but others weren't including it, so I think that was it was pointed out that India isn't in the Middle East. Yep, that's why I clarified. :) Thanks Levi, s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2991 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: recruiters with english as a second language
Thanks Pete, it's good to know I'm not alone. :) I've gotten a number of calls from recruiters that were pretty obviously outsourced Indian callcenter employees who were dialling for dollars. As a rule, I hang up on them as quickly as possible. I have also gotten emails that used less than native English, which I delete just as quickly. Sorry, but if they don't care enough to communicate properly and effectively, I don't care enough to respond. Pete s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2985 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: recruiters with english as a second language
Despite various websites' preference settings (Career Builder and DICE come to mind), I STILL get emails from recruiters, usually with middle-eastern names, shopping for candidates for jobs I'm simply not qualified for. I hate that. I used to get that pretty frequently with recruiters seeing that my resume had some minimal ASP experience on it (a year of ASP 2.0 that I never liked and haven't touched more than twice in the last 6 years) and would call me up saying they're looking for an experienced ASP _expert_. That was from predominantly American recruiters surprisingly enough. Over time java expert gradually crept in as well, and now I'm getting frequent contacts for C++ expert... I spent 3 days fixing a C++ COM object for scanning images from the web directly to a server about a year ago or so, and that's the sum total of official C++ experience I have (I taught myself from books about 9 yrs ago just before I started working with CF and hadn't been asked to work with C++ in all that time). If it gets much worse I'll have to stop posting my resume on the job sites and just rely on searching and submitting it myself. Although mercifully I shouldn't have to deal with this for much longer and then will get a nice long several year break from it. Maybe in 2010 or so when I'm ready for another change people will have figured out how wasteful and unproductive the current recruiting trends are. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2986 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cost of living estimates
So, I've generally used the first CoL calculator that comes up in a google search: http://www.homefair.com/calc/salcalc.html Because in the past it's seemed to be the only one that was really available, although now there appear to be a couple more that work (plus a couple that are either broken or lacking certain cities like Charlottesville where I am currently). I've found these other two: http://www.bankrate.com/brm/movecalc.asp http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ The problem is that these calculators produce wildly different estimates of cost... Example: From: Charlottesville VA To: San Francisco CA Income: $70k 1. roughly equivalent 2. 60% increase ($111k) 3. 80% increase ($125k) The comparison between here and DC is similar although less drastic. One thing that bothers me is that the first calculator is the only one of the three that includes rent vs. own in the calculation. (23%-32% increase although the first calculator says that Arlington which hugs the side of downtown DC is equivalent of Charlottesville, which I find difficult to believe) I'd be grateful for any thoughts or resources anyone has. Thanks, s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2964 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cost of living estimates
Thanks Larry, that's one of the 3 I've tried... although you're probably plugging in a higher number than I am... I'm only seeing a jump of $10-12k from CVille to Washington DC... Or that may be based on owning a house, which ... I'm so busted at the moment that's not even a remote possibility... maybe in 5-10 years I'll be able to consider it with some amount of legitimacy... maybe... if my luck dramatically changes now and is very good for the next 5-10 years. Unfortunately the same COS tells me that Arlington would be roughly $9k _less_ than CVille for me, which I don't believe for a second... but that's the reason for asking about COS in general, because I don't know that I can really trust this one since I'm pretty certain it's wildly innacurate when I choose Arlington VA. Isaac, You may want to try this COS calculator: http://www.homefair.com/homefair/calc/salcalc.html Moving from Charlottesville to Arlington, your salary would have to jump up to 106,000. Living further out, say in Gainesville or Manassas -both on the edge of the area, you'd only have to earn an extra $7,000 to $10,000. The big drawback for both places is that you're looking at a real ugly commute. hth, larry On 3/29/06, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I've generally used the first CoL calculator that comes up in a google search: http://www.homefair.com/calc/salcalc.html Because in the past it's seemed to be the only one that was really available, although now there appear to be a couple more that work (plus a couple that are either broken or lacking certain cities like Charlottesville where I am currently). I've found these other two: http://www.bankrate.com/brm/movecalc.asp http://www.bestplaces.net/col/ The problem is that these calculators produce wildly different estimates of cost... Example: From: Charlottesville VA To: San Francisco CA Income: $70k 1. roughly equivalent 2. 60% increase ($111k) 3. 80% increase ($125k) The comparison between here and DC is similar although less drastic. One thing that bothers me is that the first calculator is the only one of the three that includes rent vs. own in the calculation. (23%-32% increase although the first calculator says that Arlington which hugs the side of downtown DC is equivalent of Charlottesville, which I find difficult to believe) I'd be grateful for any thoughts or resources anyone has. Thanks, s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2972 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cost of living estimates
Yep. If I move to DC-metro I expect I won't be driving anywhere. At least not daily. I think ugly commutes should be factored in. You get the added expense of maintaining a vehicle more so it lasts day to day. Plus the huge added aggravation of dealing with the commute. For the past 5-6 years I have been commuting an insane amount and primarily because the money was just so good. I am getting to the point of that not even being a good enough reason though. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2973 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
advice wanted regarding short notice
Hi, I have several recruiters who are supposed to contact me in the upcoming week. No offers, just several leads; 2 in Las Vegas, 2 in Ann Arbor MI (I have family there), one in Cleveland and 2 more in the DC Metro area. I've been focusing my efforts primarily on finding something in the DC Metro area with several challenges, including the fact that I don't have a degree and the fact that since it turned out I had to take a pay-cut to accept my last job, I'm still flat broke 5 months later and can't afford to pay up-front to move the 2 hours north to the DC area. Today I received a call from a recruiter with a job in northern Virginia (DC Metro). Asside from mentioning being impressed with my very niche resume, he described being in a real hurry to fill this job because the previous programmer told them yesterday without warning that he wouldn't be in the office on Monday because he'd accepted another job. I'm to check in to a hotel tomorrow afternoon/evening on their account so that I can interview with the client (Department of the Interior) on Monday. If I'm approved and accept the offer Monday, I would be on a 6 week contract at $45/hr starting Tuesday and they would pay all my hotel costs. The recruiter says that the project is expecting to be refunded soon (I assume 6 weeks) and he expects they would likely make me a permanent employee in the next month or two roughly coinciding with the funding, at which point there would be salary negotiation. Here's my list of my concerns: PRO: 1) government client, not requiring a degree and not requiring a security clearance (I'm not opposed to getting one, but it'll be nice if I don't have to put up with the hassle) 2) assuming the recruiter is being honest, it seems like this might be an easier way to overcome the issue of convincing a company in DC that I'm not only good enough to not need a degree at $80k but that it's worthwhile to advance me cash for relocation. 3) great rate -- I wonder about this tho because one of the jobs in Vegas is a 12 month contract where the cost of living is significantly lower and they're offering the same rate, so I wonder if I'm not getting $50 just because they're being cheap (although they are paying for the hotel if I accept the job). CON: 1) It seems not unlikely that there may be problems with the job -- the previous programmer leaving suddenly isn't confidence inspiring, although it's not proof of anything 2) If I decide to accept the job tomorrow, I have to pass up the opportunity to interview with and possibly consider several other offers in the next week or two (they'd want me to start Tuesday, so I wouldn't even be coming home between the interview and the job). 3) If the project isn't refunded, even at $45/hr I may be in serious financial distress after taking the next month to move us the two hours north. 4) The recruiter described my skills as being very niche. What bothers me mostly is that he said most of their government clients have been hiring .NET developers instead and seemed to imply (if not outright say) that ColdFusion is a dead/dying technology. I'm wondering if I should just blow this off as simple ignorance on the part of the recruiter or if I should take this as a bad omen. I have a phone interview with one of the companies in Vegas at 5pm tomorrow that will need to be taken from the hotel room. I'm also not sure how many other contacts I'll have to postpone until Tuesday at the earliest because I'll be unavailable tomorrow. I'm interested in hearing others thoughts on this. I'm having some buyers remorse about agreeing to the interview because I'm concerned that accepting the job may be another big mistake (like the last job I accepted), or that even if I don't accept the job that postponing contact with other recruiters until Tuesday may be problematic. Thanks, s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2958 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Strange Job Description
Does anybody else find this job description odd? http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?rel_code=2op=101d ockey=xml/3/b/[EMAIL PROTECTED]source=13 Seems like that particular collection of skills isn't very likely to appear in a single person with real proficiency. Just seems to me like they're looking for someone who's well versed in several uncomplimentary thought-worlds. That and they want this person to eat, sleep and drink the job and piss photoshop graphics. Although I can't say I haven't seen that before. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2925 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: recruiters and candidate marketing
Heh. I've mentioned it on cf-community in the past. :) Actually I accidentally posted the story to cf-talk too... http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:5/threadid: 15629 Susan's a new one. ;) At 09:39 AM 3/8/2006, you wrote: Thanks Cutter! :) S. Isaac, Whaddayagobyanyway? isaac ike try coyote susan Take your pick. :) s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2910 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: recruiters and candidate marketing
It is in the language of Mordor which I will not utter here. :) So the S stands for Sherry? On 3/8/06, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh. I've mentioned it on cf-community in the past. :) Actually I accidentally posted the story to cf-talk too... http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumi d:5/threadid: 15629 Susan's a new one. ;) At 09:39 AM 3/8/2006, you wrote: Thanks Cutter! :) S. Isaac, Whaddayagobyanyway? isaac ike try coyote susan Take your pick. :) s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2912 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: recruiters and candidate marketing
Yes, it's brass. :P So have you found that one ring yet? :P On 3/8/06, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is in the language of Mordor which I will not utter here. :) So the S stands for Sherry? s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2914 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Independant work
This is moved from CF-Jobs to CF-Jobs-Talk. My first job? The company I left hired me back as a consultant. I haven't decided whether or not this was a good idea, but I've been on my own for 7 years since then. Read my whole life story here http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167913.htm The whole (December?) issue of CFDJ was supposed to be on this topic, I think. There was a whole issue of CFDJ on your life story? Wow... I'm impressed! :) s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2918 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Independant work
At 03:33 PM 3/8/2006, you wrote: This is moved from CF-Jobs to CF-Jobs-Talk. My first job? The company I left hired me back as a consultant. I haven't decided whether or not this was a good idea, but I've been on my own for 7 years since then. Read my whole life story here http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/read/167913.htm The whole (December?) issue of CFDJ was supposed to be on this topic, I think. There was a whole issue of CFDJ on your life story? Wow... I'm impressed! :) :laughs: I meant the article was on my life story, although in brief. The whole issue of CFDJ was supposed to be 'Marketing and Management'. Although, I don't have a good gauge as to how well the topics are sticking to the focus. Well if they're sticking to the focus, you might want to clean the lense... Otherwise you're liable to get bleary pictures. :P s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2920 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents
A quick question for any recruitment agents on this list(or anyone else who knows). Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a recruitment agent, only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't get an interview. How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email saying, they weren't interested? I understand that this might lead to another email asking why etc, but I'd rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't get an interview so you can move on and make other plans. Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing something? Adrian It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others, so you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2843 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
I saw little benifit in Fusebox at the time. Confusing longwinded, and time consuming, it seemed faster to work within a linear approach. I definately liked Fusebox when I first started working with it (late FB2 though I didn't really start working with it 'till FB3). It wasn't until later that I became disenchanted with it because I found myself doing a lot of repetitive coding, which I know some people avoid with the use of mind mapping tools like FuseBuilder, though I'm not real happy with that idea either. I don't like the idea of code-gen tools for creating beans (or beans in general) or really much of anything. Not sure if that bias against code gen tools makes me more or less marketable in the workplace. I do know that being a framework author tends to put off some potential employers because of the thinking that I might not be loyal (split when my own software becomes profitable) or might not work so hard on their projects or because they perceive my own work as being in competition with the framework they've chosen (i.e. how can someone who develops their own framework be good at FB or Mach-II). Although I'm working on an FB4 application right now. Yes I would rather be working with my own, but I certainly don't consider myself a slob with FB4 (which is admittedly far superior to FB3 and _might_ have kept me from developing my own framework had it been available at the time -- I'm glad it didn't because I get a lot more work done at home and we'll be using onTap for the next iteration of the software at my new day job). I don't so much blame them for the loyalty question -- yeah, I'd love for my own software to become profitable enough that I can do whatever I want. Employers want the young, but they also want the experienced, and the experienced may be a lot like me. No degree, self trained, and bouncing from position to position to keep our heads above water while we support our families and try to get ahead. That does a pretty good job of describing myself as well. Corporations are finally seeing the advantage of ColdFusion. Adobe's purchase of Macromedia will only improve that outlook while giveing the product greater stability and marketing clout. I suspect that depends a lot on what business sector you've been working in... I'm told that CF has had a good chunk of the government market for a long time, and we see those job listings for DC all the time. What some job seekers are going to have to realize is that, to obtain the money positions they desire, they will need to put some effort into learning their craft's. They are going to have to pick up a book or a course or 10, and learn about architectures and methodologies. That has so not been my experience... I'm in a good place now work-wise, so I'll make public my brutally honest observation (though I may have anyway). Its seemed to me for quite some time that employers are much less concerned with a programmers ability to perform their job than with their ability to be socially normative. I've never given much credence to social normalcy myself -- there are lot of social norms that I find unpleasant. But when it's a choice between the quirky unitarian-hippie guy who's always learning and can and will thread a needle with CF and the slob who spends all day in the office trying to find some way not to work, the guy who's downloading pornographic christmas carols and playing them out loud in the office will a) be paid more and b) keep his job longer (true story). Or I'm just jaded and bitter. CF went from being the first web application server to getting a bad rap in the programming community as a tag-based procedural web scripting language. Only now is it coming into the corporate consciousnous that CF is a rich, powerful, rapid-application-development language, built upon J2EE, that lends itself beautifully to either a procedural base or an OO methodology, and the developers that they want to leverage that flexability are those that can work within both worlds. I'm not convinced the rap for CF has been worse than for other languages... I've hear people say that Python is the definitive OO language, but when I've looked at use comparisons, it's always near the bottom when compared to CF, ASP and PHP. I've never seen a use comparison in which CF wasn't _close_ to the top near ASP if CF was included -- I tend to think the omission of CF has occurred in some of those cases not because it wasn't being used but rather because whoever compiled the data was biased against it. A zealot might include Java, ASP, PHP, Python and Lotus Notes for various reasons but then say ColdFusion isn't a real language and disclude it, without it being really indicative of the reputation of the server/language except perhaps in his or her isolated subculture. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
Seems to me like more than we've had in general since 2000 tho... I tend to agree that the (cf) job market seems to be noticeably a lot healthier this (and last) year than it had in several years. My guess would be that it can be attributed both to a healthier economy in general as well as to good marketing from MM and really popular / relevant (not necessarily overlapping) new features in recent releases of CF. Typical January hiring manangers activity. -Original Message- From: Robert Reno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 5, 2006 7:52 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: 2006 Turn Around? It seems like I have been getting double the usual calls for CF openings in Florida. Has anyone else noticed more calls where you are? I even had two direct calls from companies hiring in addition to the recruiters calling. Rob in Tampa s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2807 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
It seems like the folks at Site Manageware (my last job in Florida) hired most of the CF programmers (those looking for work anyway) in South Florida, and had been having a diffcult time finding more people. They had imported me from Texas at the time in mid-2004, but they hired me with a senior/advanced/rd expectation, rather than most of their intermediate jobs. Rob, I've definitely seen an increase over the past year or so. I don't think it's just started in 2006. I have several job agents setup in Monster and other sites to notify me of jobs in certain areas, and they have been steadily increasing for some time now. In fact, I know anecdotally that it's been hard to even find and hire CF developers in certain areas of the US. I think the market is very healthy right now and has been for a year or so. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2810 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Permanent Coldfusion Developer/MA/Weymouth
Hey, you might want to also repost this to cf-jobs@houseoffusion.com I expect everyone who's on the jobs-talk list is also on cf-jobs, but I believe there are more subscribers on cf-jobs (which is intended for these actually -- jobs-talk is intended for general discussion) so you might get more responses if you post to the other list. hth s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm COLDFUSION PROGRAMMER-Perm 55-75K+ Email Resumes or Referrals to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this role you will have the opportunity to design, develop and support an industry-leading Inventory/order/CRM system using a variety of technologies. You will be responsible for managing projects through all phases of the development cycle. Additional responsibilities include supporting a load-balanced server architecture and consulting with clients' regarding their technology requirements. The ideal candidate will have the following skills: Minimum four years programming experience with Internet applications; Extensive experience with: Cold Fusion MS SQL Server JavaScript Moderate experience with: Server Management Workstation support and setup ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2770 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF job/restarting a career
That anecdote may not be entirely accurate. Hey Jennifer... That's actually not the anecdote I was remembering... I was remembering a post to ... I think cf-community in which someone mentioned hearing from their boss after having been hired that the boss had passed up on hiring someone with the certification for his job. Though I don't remember if he said the manager had interviewed the person -- it seems like I remembered it being intimated that the guy wasn't interviewed, but that may be either a misremembrance on my part or simply bad information. But I distinctly remember the guy who posted the message saying praise the gods of certification because he seemed to believe that not having the cert. had been a crucial point in his being hired. Other than that I remember the rational being similar to what you mentioned from the BACFUG list. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2744 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Does this seem really low?
True, although from what I recall they wanted the person to be available for a lot of hours per week. Almost too many for a student if I am remembering the number right. On 7/5/05, Connie DeCinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or a student who happened to start learning at a very early age and just needs something to pad their resume. They demanded 20-60 hrs... so in other words we can't guarantee that we'll have enough work for you to live on -- but we expect you to guarantee that you'll be available (sitting around doing nothing important or certainly nothing else paid) for well more than the amount of time you would spend at a full-time job. These people have apparently smoked so much crack that you might be able to get a high just from breathing in the smell of their perspiration. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2721 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Does this seem really low?
Ahh... my mistake... still... I was approached recently by an overseas company advertising CF work (and similar) for $15/hr ... German I think... I don't remember for certain... but if I'm paying someone in an overseas country with a depressed economy and significantly lower cost of living $15, I can't see paying someone locally $10 with what it looked like they were expecting in terms of skills. An intern maybe, but that's a whole other ball-game, and I'd expect them to use the word intern in their add if that's what they want... Well from reading the original post, they say that they require 20 hours per week, while you can work up to 60 if you wish. So they don't demand 60 hours, just 20. I have a feeling that whoever works on this kind of arrangement either doesn't know what they're doing very well and therefore probably deserves $10 an hour, or are pretty adept at it, and can complete the task fairly quickly and just end up charging the company 60 hours a week when they probably work only half that or less. It seems a little dishonest, but paying $10 an hour for us based flash work is ridiculous. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2723 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Contracts for work
It's not normal in my experience. What are some of the escape clauses and where do you live? This is what I find to be bothersome: 3.2. Payments. SSA shall remit payment to Contractor when the monies are received from SSAâs customer and on receipt of all properly submitted invoices, unless otherwise agreed upon in writing in Section 7 of the Order. The Contractor shall not be entitled to payment to the extent that the client refuses to pay SSA for the services of the Contractorâs employees because of unsatisfactory performance. So what they're saying is if our client doesn't like your work and decides not to pay us, we're not paying you, and we're not going to try and do anything about it. I don't find it especially surprising. I don't know if it's common. I don't consider it a good contract, Imo a good contract would need to specify that if the client stiffs them they still pay you and take the client either to court or to collections, as the company you're working for a) has the right to do that and b) is in a far better financial position to lose that money. My understanding is that IT consulting companies that hire subcontractors don't just mark up your work 15% or so like it's a mass-produced product -- they typically charge a minimum of 2x your rate to the end client (usually closer to 3x). They then turn around and take a larger number of projects and all the extra money that's coming into the company from these projects and use that extra to pay their sales staff, office rent, etc. It's true that some of them do go out of business for financial reasons, but you don't want to work for a company in that position anyway. If the company is stable, they're much better able to deal with deadbeat clients than you are. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2698 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Phone interviews
Is it common now for a company to say they will call for a phone interview but not give a time. Then not call on the day they say they would. 2 days later I get an email saying it has been reschedule for another day with no clue to the time? In the past all phone interview I've had were for specific days/time. This seems really unprofessional to me and hard to take serious. Is this the norm now? It seems unprofessional to me as well. At the very least it's likely indicative of disorganization. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2692 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: People with certifications get paid less
On another list, someone pointed out to me that my subject line was not necessarily correct. The statistics talk about the percentage of raises, not actual salary. It is entirely possible that certified people still make higher salaries, perhaps at start. It was the second Foote study to offer good news for IT workers this year. Like what? Dr. Scholls? Better arch support? s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2690 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? That's kind of what I was thinking... that's why I didn't take any pause from the request for a typing test. Sure, a lot of companies never ask their programmers to write documentation, but imo any good programmer should be able to write decent documentation with reasonable speed. In an ideal world I suppose we might all have people hired on specifically as technical writers, but I've never worked for a company where that was the case. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2661 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
One more thought on the documentation thing Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. This is true -- and I don't type 100wpm even when I have a copy sitting in front of me... but this also sort of assumes that, once you've decided what to write in your docs that the speed with which you compose that sentence is irrelevant... I don't think so... if you're much like any typical user I've seen with respect to the keyboard, you'll decide what to say pretty quickly, and then take 2 minutes to type what took 10 seconds to conceptualize. If on the other hand you can touch-type at something in the neighborhood of 60wpm, then you can put to paper about twice as much of your brainstorming in about half the time. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2664 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
81wpm on their classic test -- which is shorter and therefore a less accurate assessment... in the neighborhood of 60 with their new Java applet. I don't think it's at all common as a request for a job interview... I can see why someone would ask for it tho... While you may not be typing other people's words, you will type your own words faster if you know how to touch-type... Which is useful particularly for email and documentation, but even with code, I find that a lot of my typing is in the form of real words (albeit unusually combined/cased) rather than a wholly unique dialect which emphasises completely different characters (or character combinations) than are emphasized by the qwerty keyboard. I remember a friend of mine once bragged about typing (programming code primarily in C/C++) much faster with only 4 fingers because the syntax was so different from english that it was actually more efficient not to use standard touch-typing practices. I didn't think much of it at the time. In retrospect I have to think the code was likely god-awful looking. I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2650 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
Except that's 2 places... 1 in the database and 1 in the code... 2... :) I wouldn't call that lazy -- you'd be _amazed_ how much time you can save (and productivity you can gain) by cutting out very small (microscopic) tasks which occur often. At least for me, I consider schema changes at least in early development frequent enough to warrant. Granted that once the early development is done and the schema is pretty solid you don't get much in the way of schema changes and it's easy enough to go back and replace the * with an explicit column list, I just don't see a need. But yes -- the design of a DAO is not a beginner's task. Funny I was going to use DAO as an arguement for using Select * but didn't bother since I didn;t want to mix entry level using select * with using Select * with a DAO Design Pattern which if you are using DAO you're not entry level. I could just as Easily say though (just for arguements sake) that if you are using DAOs then you only have to change the Select list in 1 place, not wanting to change it in one place == lazy. I will still say though Selecting all comumn names is is better for any programer that might have to go into your code though Adam H On 5/12/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though in a DAO situation there's little point in not selecting * since the DAO generally is just going to get all the columns for a specific record and drop them into the bean or other object properties. You can of course argue that explicitly declaring the columns is faster for the database (although you are using the primary key for selection), and using a code-generator can shift that load some, but I still prefer select * in a DAO because I also use dynamic accessor methods and that way I don't have to rewrite my DAO's when I add columns to the table. I tend to be very much of the right tool for the job mindset, so if there's a practical reason for using a * I have no problem with it. I guess we all have our admamant areas :) If I see a Select * I get fairly upset with the developer. In most caees you are bringing back unneeded data and in a large developement envirmoent another programer can not easily step into the code and see what is being selected from where. Adam H On 5/11/05, Glenn Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:14 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: That reminds me of one...Select * in SQL statements...thats a really big PITA and a sign of a beginner or a lazy coder... I guess that would make me a lazy coder. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2626 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: What makes a programmer look low level
I'm pretty conscientious about documenting my open-source work. Probably moreso than most folks... But then my documentation is also all web-ready and a test-case for the framework. The majority of it does end up being language-reference (documentation for individual tags, functions and CFC's) but there are both beginner and advanced tutorials in the core docs and I provide an overview doc with plugins. (Granted, there's only one publicly available plugin currently.) But I produce such a large volume of code that it would be impossible for my documentation to be flawless. poorly formatted code + no documentation or comments= bad; poorly formatted code + bad documentation or comments = bad; [poorly formatted code + good documentation or comments = bad;]* [well formatted code+ no documentation or comments= GOOD;]* well formatted code + bad documentation or comments = bad; well formatted code + good documentation or comments = good; where well formatted code = minority; poorly formatted code = majority; no OR bad documentation or comments = majority; *[good documentation or comments = yeah right;] -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:42 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: What makes a programmer look low level At 10:39 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: Not all documentation is good; in fact, most is bad (in my experience.) In my experience, most is non-existent. But, I've never had a problem with documentation that is there. And I still have a hard time imagining a time where comments make it hard to follow the logic of code, no matter how poorly written the documentation is. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2590 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
At 01:25 PM 5/9/2005, you wrote: How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our way up. Two things that come right to mind are: 1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones 2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean evaluation) A few things that bug me: Non-descriptive variable names. X is a lot less descriptive than CurrentAuthor or AuthorIndex for example. Can I use X as a loop index? I do that a lot. :) Breaking encapsulation In CFCs (or custom tags or UDFs) by referencing shared scope variable (application, session, request, etc.. ). Does that include when the shared scope variables are part of a wholistic framework used to develop the application? If I have a well-structured set of function libraries in the request scope is it bad form for one function in these libraries to reference another function in these libraries from the request scope? In databases, not defining relationships or keys. This one really bugs me. You're talking about lack of constraints. That's one of my pet peeves too... it's bugged me at just about every place I've worked to date. :-/ s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2542 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
Nice! :) That one actually got a literal laugh out loud on this end. :) How would you spot these in a code sample? :P cfif parameterExists... - Jim S. Isaac Dealey wrote: How would you spot these in a code sample? :P 1. An unwillingness to learn 2. Believing that they have no room for improvement 3. Blindly following the advice of some so-called Credible Person - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz) Date: Monday, May 9, 2005 11:25 am Subject: What makes a programmer look low level How about we look at what makes a programmer look low level and work our way up. Two things that come right to mind are: 1. Improper use of pound signs in evaluation zones 2. Improper usage of IF clauses (not using short circuited Boolean evaluation) s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2551 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
What makes a programmer look low level is: 1. Not predefining variable for later use at start of code file or in a universal inclusion. Really, I think people should be held accountable to write out in documentation every variable used along with every set of data whether originating in a database or the result of munging something in the application. We show data schemas - so why not variable schemas. The onTap framework actually has a page in the documentation that's designed specifically to allow extensible documentation of all variables used by the framework. I haven't updated the public site recently unfortunately -- I've been busy working on other things and now I have to update the forum before I can really do that. But -- although in retrospect it's not as nicely done as it could have been, it does provide a thumbnail explanation of every variable exposed by the framework, plus plugins can add variables to the list. Some of them even have links to further documentation regarding the section where the variable is used. 2. No code comments If you don't comment lots then you will confuse even yourself in the future. Commenting helps everyone understand what is going on. A lot of people don't comment believing it leads to dependence upon them (aka job security). Yea, that doesn't work. :) 3. No explainable workflow Like the code comments - lots of people write code just to confuse someone else later having to re-work their disaster piece. Applies to job security. There are also times when people blow out lots of code in chunks and fuse things together and for whatever reason they don't go back and clean things up - whether it's a timeline issue or just that the person hopes to never touch it again. Some of the low level stuff in the onTap framework could probably be described that way... I'm thinking in particular about the tags that manage SQL syntax for multiple db platforms. They work, but they're not as clean as a lot of other areas of the framework. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2559 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
Oh yeah I forgot another short sighted new programmer annoyance I hold is: Complex code that isn't tabbed or seperated like in case of a query with 100 fields running a big comma list versus putting a carriage return after each field name follwed by a comma. Makes debugging a pain since you have to eyeball things across and can easily bury a comma or forget one. As it relates to the code it makes finding what conditional you are in impossible except where you step the program manually or insert a CFABORT and keep mocing it down the file to see where the issue is. -Paris Lundis I have personal issues with ad-hoc cfqueries in general... particularly insert statements (it's often horribly difficult for me to walk the column list once, count the number of elements down to my insert value and then have to find that in the values list)... Commenting each line of the values list (if not immediately obvious what it is) helps, but is duplication of effort and ime almost never done. I prefer to have tools that handle inserts and updates with structures -- makes them much easier for me to debug... Not cfinsert/cfupdate incidentally -- they fall in my list of things that denote a person as being inexperienced, along with -- up until now -- cfform. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2563 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
You can ask the applicant, ask a company the applicant has worked for, see if they have any open source projects, etc... I never have problems getting code samples from applicants, even code that's a few years old. Most people are quite proud of what they've worked on, regardless of what someone else thinks of it. I could probably dig up some of my code from CF4 if I really dug around and tried... I doubt I have anything left-over from CF3 ... dunno how many years that goes back... I'd expect it'd be a challenge even for me (on my own machine), if even possible... but then I may not be indicative of most programmers. I'd be mighty impressed if you were able to find something of mine that was 3 yrs old. :P Though I will say that does show dedication to the hiring process. :) s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://www.sys-con.com/author/?id=4806 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2579 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: which one of these things is not like the other...
Yeah! Yeah! In a big public forum, where I could dress him up in a tinkerbell outfit and... oh wait... wrong thread... :) I won't be at cfunited unfortunately. I did think it was odd that John interposed the arguments for the replace() function ... Maybe he was sleep deprived or something. I just noticed that John Ashenfelter is speaking at CFUnited - perhaps you could give him your opinion of the test at the conference. larry On Apr 7, 2005 11:37 PM, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just took an online test for ColdFusion 5 (I didn't realize when I talked to the recruiter that it would be CF5 and not MX or later). I have to say, the Modis test for CF5 is one of the worst tests I've seen. I got several duplicated questions (same question, but with the name of a variable modified slightly, i.e. someVariable instead of myVariable, a number of questions about ColdFusion Studio (one in particular about using debugging output to step through a template -- which I've never seen anybody use), and several questions which were simply incorrect. The test actually blamed someone as being the author of each question. :) And named John Ashenfelter for all of the questions I saw... Were these written during a beta or something? (Still wouldn't explain this replace question which is simply wrong -- no way around it.) s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/author/?id=4806 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2395 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade bob ross 201 569 2822 to 100k
specialist That has to be the shortest job post I've ever read, although I don't think I understand all the code. What is splst? Senior Level, with Cascading Style (sheets?) At 10:14 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote: need coldfusion splst sr level-with cascade style-urgent-bob ross 201 569 2822-central nj-80-100k-urgent s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/author/?id=4806 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2346 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: interview questions
Heh... yea, you were only learning the onTap tools because you saw something you thought might help you resolve some problems you were having with the framework your company had before you got there -- which is a bit different than simply picking it up for general purpose. :) Definately, I have gone into interviews where I was seen as advanced from the code I brought with me and questions I answered. Then I have gone into interviews where my lack of FB made me appear novice. I really should learn some just to have it under my belt for those interviews. However I have yet to feel I was in a bind enough to warrant learning another framework that I may or may not ever use depending on who is employing me. In all my CF interviews, the FB question has only popped up twice so I would not say it is something that will always come up. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/author/?id=4806 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2310 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion Developer - Northern Virginia
Stephen Moretti (cfmaster) wrote: S. Isaac Dealey wrote: Expects a bachelors degree but doesn't seem to know what incumbent means... http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=incumbent Unless he meant lying, leaning, or resting on the job offer... Issac, You need to read the noun rather than the adjective. Mind you, with that meaning, it does make it sound like this job is only going to the person who already holds it. ;oD Well that's rather my point -- the noun refers to the person who already holds the position. I typically only hear it used in reference to political elections -- like Bush. Although that does conjure up some interesting images. :) Candidate 1) What this company needs is a programmer who knows XML! Moderator) Candidate two you have two minutes to respond. s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2270 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
The position I just mentioned does not require long hours - typically, our Developers work about 40 hours per week - we believe in a life outside of work. So, please do contact me for additional information if you are an advanced CF Developer! 732-544-8454; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charlotte Griffin Human Resources Manager Viatech, Inc. www.viatechinc.com I'm currently working for a company in Ft Lauderdale, although I always like to keep my options open in the event of the unforseen, particularly with the instability in our industry in the past few years. I'd be curious to know more about the job. Thanks Charlotte, s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2189 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: The State of Programming in the United States?
I thought The Northeast was collectively, New England + New York. As someone else said, DC / Virginia area is mid-Alantic. Thanks to No Child Left Behind hopefully our children will not co-exist on the same level of ignorance about the US that we do. (ha, ha) No, they will, but they'll be told that they aren't ignorant... how's that for a beacon of progress? :) s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=40 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2112 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: The State of Programming in the United States?
I don't think that's necessarily unique, although Jim seems to have done better than most of us. Personally I'd be interested to see the CSM article if you can find a url for it. It sounds like a load to me, though that's primarily what I expect from CSM. Two things: 1) Last year before I got the full-time job I have now I was doing consulting work in Dallas (after consulting work here in Ft Lauderdale had dried up and I'd moved back to Dallas to try and be near my kids for another company that later went bust this time by selling out to a larger company that didn't care about most of their small-business clients). I was getting by on consulting work although I wouldn't say I was doing tremendously well. I was still able to put half the money in to buy a used car when my van died (my grandmother put in the other half) and only had to borrow money for rent for one month out of the year that I recall. Toward the end of the year I got a permanent job with a small company downtown which went away after a couple months (an stranged circumstance I won't get into). When I got the job I'd been desperately looking for work and not finding even any leads. Two months later when I got my severance I suddenly had several leads for good full-time jobs -- one of them was in Dallas which I was offered and turned down because I got a bad feeling from the owner and shortly afterward found out that the guy who'd interviewed me quit for the same sort of reasons that made me afraid to take the job. Which left a company in Los Angeles who flew me out for a face-to-face interview (I was surprised) and later decided to hire someone else, and two companies in Florida, both of which offered me a job and one of which I took. The company which hired me gave me a $3k advance to move from Dallas to Ft Lauderdale (which I overspent and had to borrow some more cash from my grandmother the first month). I'm just now finishing off paying back the advance, I'm on the insurance (it was a 6 month probation), and am supposed to be getting a bonus and a salary increase soon. 2) When I got here I had a brief conversation with the lead programmer about outsourcing. His stance on outsourcing is this: he's worked with indian programmers in the pas and he will _never_ work with indian programmers again because of a combination of the language barrier, the work quality and the fact that the indian programmers he worked with would routinely work 16hr days often to get the same amount of work done as one American. I don't personally consider this a poor reflection on indian programmers necessarily -- it is after all his own subjective experience. The fact remains that there are hiring managers in this country who are not willing to outsource and many of them honestly feel that outsourcing for programming work does more harm than good for their company. So although it's not the same job market it's been (when has IT work not radically changed from year to year?) I don't believe it's going to change so radically that every American programmer will be jobless any time in the near or even remote future. p.s. Monster.com sucks the Llamma's ... ahem... anyway... I prefer DICE and computerjobs.com myself, but definately follow all recruiting sites and if you have local users groups attend them and ask the people there about local jobs or telework, etc. they might know about. Give a presentation or two at your local CFUG if you can -- people remember you. At 10:46 PM 10/18/2004, you wrote: David, In the last three months I have turned down several jobs because I was overbooked. snip Jim - Original Message - From: David Simcik To: CF-Jobs-Talk Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: The State of Programming in the United States? Hi, I read a truly scary article on the Christian Science Monitor last week that stated rather matter-a-factly that the American programmer was about to become as extinct as the dinosaur because of foreign competition. As people that are in the know, at least as far as Cold Fusion development is concerned, do you think this position is true? If so, what are you doing about it? If not, why is it different? I must admit as someone that has been doing Cold Fusion/Java development for close to 7 years now that I was pretty darn frightened by what I read and there doesn't seem to be a whole heck of a lot going on for programmers on sites like Monster.com, etc either. Tell me what you think -- I'm all ears. s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| The annual ColdFusion User Conference is being held Sat 6/26 - Sun 6/27/04 8am-5pm in the Washington
OT: IDE was Re: The job market
You may never have to develop WITHOUT Cold Fusion Studio by your side.But I still expect you to be able to show me you can work without a net. Funny thing is, during the days of CF3 I wasn't very happy with the IDE's available at the time. I used to use a shareware (registered for $30) HTML editor that didn't even have syntax highlighting called Anansi because it was the only one I found that had what I felt to be easily manageable projects and decent ftp controls. Though for a short while I did a lot of ColdFusion work in notepad. s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: knowing syntax during an interview was RE: The job market
At 07:50 AM 8/10/2004, you wrote: It all depends on the types of things you ask someone to write out manually.Being incapable of typing out CFQUERY or CFOUTPUT is simply inexcusable and there is no convincing me otherwise. Whereas it's okay for someone not to be intimately familiar with the attributes of a cfgrid or cftree tag if they've never worked in an environment where they're heavily used. There is a reason why CFGRID isn't supported in Blue Dragon.It's commonly considered to be one of if not THE least used CF Tag. Which explains why the early CFML tests used by recruiters were chock full of questions about it. :P s. isaac dealey954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
