Re: Moving to DC, need advice
Jason, you can expect $80 - $90 per hour easily if you don't have layers in between.. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Jason Birch birchma...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4391 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
Well, it appears my thread has officially been hijacked. :) JB From:RobG sled...@gmail.com To:cf-jobs-talk cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 9:18:00 AM Subject: Re: Moving to DC On 11/8/10 2:59 PM, Maureen wrote: That is legal in California. I hate it, but apparently there have been few accidents because of it, and no fatalities. No offense (seriously), but here's my take on why people hate it. It's a generalization so please try not to take it too personally. And I can relate because years ago before I rode I felt the same way. You hate it because it requires you to actually pay attention. You feel like you shouldn't have to watch out for anybody but yourself. You hate it because of the VERY FEW dweebs out there (they exist in every group) that abuse the privilege and blow through traffic at too high a speed, or you've had a mirror broken by one of these guys. OR, as somebody pointed out yesterday, you hate the idea that somebody should get there before you do. Misery spread equally, that's the Liberal Way (tm). Instead of Power To Those Who Can, we need to put a stop those people because it isn't FAIR that they should be able to do something we can't. There was an article written in San Francisco back in 2000 talking about lane splitting. They quoted one guy saying how he hates how people can get there sooner, and they shouldn't be allowed to. They, should just get in line and wait with everybody else. It's such a crock because bikes are much smaller than cars. They fit in smaller spaces. It just makes sense to let them use that space. Consider this... at the grocery store or Walmart. You have these big, wide aisles. WHAT IF you were only allowed to walk single file down these aisles? Even if somebody stopped to get stuff off the shelf, or was standing there staring, looking for the item that didn't exist, you COULD NOT go around them. How dumb is that? Very similar concept. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4382 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
You'd think that this was CF-Community or something. ;) One other suggestion I did have is go to one of the salary comparison sites and check out possible cost of living in DC vs the suburbs that way. You can look at how much more you'd need to make as well as seeing how much more it would cost living in DC vs., the agony of the commute. Believe me, commuting in this region is ugly. You need to take that into account. Driving into the district is not recommended if you can avoid it. regards, larry On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Jason Birch birchma...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, it appears my thread has officially been hijacked. :) JB From:RobG sled...@gmail.com To:cf-jobs-talk cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 9:18:00 AM Subject: Re: Moving to DC On 11/8/10 2:59 PM, Maureen wrote: That is legal in California. I hate it, but apparently there have been few accidents because of it, and no fatalities. No offense (seriously), but here's my take on why people hate it. It's a generalization so please try not to take it too personally. And I can relate because years ago before I rode I felt the same way. You hate it because it requires you to actually pay attention. You feel like you shouldn't have to watch out for anybody but yourself. You hate it because of the VERY FEW dweebs out there (they exist in every group) that abuse the privilege and blow through traffic at too high a speed, or you've had a mirror broken by one of these guys. OR, as somebody pointed out yesterday, you hate the idea that somebody should get there before you do. Misery spread equally, that's the Liberal Way (tm). Instead of Power To Those Who Can, we need to put a stop those people because it isn't FAIR that they should be able to do something we can't. There was an article written in San Francisco back in 2000 talking about lane splitting. They quoted one guy saying how he hates how people can get there sooner, and they shouldn't be allowed to. They, should just get in line and wait with everybody else. It's such a crock because bikes are much smaller than cars. They fit in smaller spaces. It just makes sense to let them use that space. Consider this... at the grocery store or Walmart. You have these big, wide aisles. WHAT IF you were only allowed to walk single file down these aisles? Even if somebody stopped to get stuff off the shelf, or was standing there staring, looking for the item that didn't exist, you COULD NOT go around them. How dumb is that? Very similar concept. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4383 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Moving to DC
FYI if you are in Oz We are only allowed to ride Kangaroos on the right side of the curb, as we drive on the left side of the road, the roos do not get spooked at traffic coming behind them. I think bike riders have the same laws apply but will check as roos outnumber bikes over here and everyone prefers the easier option :-) -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:04 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: Moving to DC Don't they call that a Yeehaw! Moment? -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:35 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Moving to DC I don't 'cause I live here and I know what some of the dumb rednecks around here will stoop to doing, and think about the consequences later... I know it would never pass the Virginia legislature because of the elitist attitude that abounds there, like I said If I can't go you can't either On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 11:51 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... SEE! I told you somebody would invariably say that. I call complete BS. If somebody did that, yeah they would seriously injure (or kill) a motorcyclist and end up in jail as a result. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4379 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Moving to DC
I hear banjos... they're everywhere -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:04 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: Moving to DC Don't they call that a Yeehaw! Moment? -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:35 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Moving to DC I don't 'cause I live here and I know what some of the dumb rednecks around here will stoop to doing, and think about the consequences later... I know it would never pass the Virginia legislature because of the elitist attitude that abounds there, like I said If I can't go you can't either On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 11:51 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... SEE! I told you somebody would invariably say that. I call complete BS. If somebody did that, yeah they would seriously injure (or kill) a motorcyclist and end up in jail as a result. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4380 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
On 11/8/10 2:59 PM, Maureen wrote: That is legal in California. I hate it, but apparently there have been few accidents because of it, and no fatalities. No offense (seriously), but here's my take on why people hate it. It's a generalization so please try not to take it too personally. And I can relate because years ago before I rode I felt the same way. You hate it because it requires you to actually pay attention. You feel like you shouldn't have to watch out for anybody but yourself. You hate it because of the VERY FEW dweebs out there (they exist in every group) that abuse the privilege and blow through traffic at too high a speed, or you've had a mirror broken by one of these guys. OR, as somebody pointed out yesterday, you hate the idea that somebody should get there before you do. Misery spread equally, that's the Liberal Way (tm). Instead of Power To Those Who Can, we need to put a stop those people because it isn't FAIR that they should be able to do something we can't. There was an article written in San Francisco back in 2000 talking about lane splitting. They quoted one guy saying how he hates how people can get there sooner, and they shouldn't be allowed to. They, should just get in line and wait with everybody else. It's such a crock because bikes are much smaller than cars. They fit in smaller spaces. It just makes sense to let them use that space. Consider this... at the grocery store or Walmart. You have these big, wide aisles. WHAT IF you were only allowed to walk single file down these aisles? Even if somebody stopped to get stuff off the shelf, or was standing there staring, looking for the item that didn't exist, you COULD NOT go around them. How dumb is that? Very similar concept. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4381 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Moving to DC
Metro is the only way to get around in DC. Forget about driving, let alone finding a place to park... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:59 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Moving to DC My sister had a nice place in Greenbelt, Maryland. Clean, low crime, not too expensive, with an easy commute to the city on the Metro. Also, my cousin recently bought a nice place in Woodbridge, VA, with the same attributes. Good luck with the new job. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Jason Birchman birchma...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4357 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
Jason if you are still looking for a job, just got pinged by some recruiters so can pass along if you want On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Levi Wallach l...@dvdmon.com wrote: That's a pretty blanket statement. nbsp;I've been commuting by car for 15 years. nbsp;All until the last 3 months were under 30 minutes each way. -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Nov 8, 2010 11:39 AM, Jacob lt;ja...@excaliburfilms.comgt; wrote: Metro is the only way to get around in DC. Forget about driving, let alone finding a place to park... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:59 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Moving to DC My sister had a nice place in Greenbelt, Maryland. Clean, low crime, not too expensive, with an easy commute to the city on the Metro. Also, my cousin recently bought a nice place in Woodbridge, VA, with the same attributes. Good luck with the new job. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Jason Birchman lt;birchma...@yahoo.comgt; wrote: gt; gt; I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! gt; gt; - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4359 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
On 11/8/10 8:35 AM, Jacob wrote: Metro is the only way to get around in DC. Forget about driving, let alone finding a place to park... If they would legalize lane splitting in DC/Virginia and surrounding areas, it would open up a whole new way to commute (motorcycle). It works really, REALLY well in California. It's the whole reason I started riding. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4360 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
On 11/8/10 10:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: HOV regulations in Virginia allow motorcycles to use the HOV lanes and I-66 inside the beltway during rush hour. Yeah that's a federal law, in fact. But being able to split lanes saves a TON of time when traffic inevitably slows down... likewise filtering to the front of traffic lights between cars is also a huge time-saver. AND (at the risk of sounding like a PDA), studies have shown that it's SAFER than not splitting because you're much less likely to get rear-ended. I can get anywhere in the SF Bay Area or Los Angeles basin in 1/3 the time it takes in a car. I cut my own commute in LA from 45 minutes (9 miles each way) to 15 minutes because of lane splitting. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4362 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
I may be confused. What do you mean by split lanes? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:53 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 10:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: HOV regulations in Virginia allow motorcycles to use the HOV lanes and I-66 inside the beltway during rush hour. Yeah that's a federal law, in fact. But being able to split lanes saves a TON of time when traffic inevitably slows down... likewise filtering to the front of traffic lights between cars is also a huge time-saver. AND (at the risk of sounding like a PDA), studies have shown that it's SAFER than not splitting because you're much less likely to get rear-ended. I can get anywhere in the SF Bay Area or Los Angeles basin in 1/3 the time it takes in a car. I cut my own commute in LA from 45 minutes (9 miles each way) to 15 minutes because of lane splitting. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4363 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: I may be confused. What do you mean by split lanes? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:53 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 10:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: HOV regulations in Virginia allow motorcycles to use the HOV lanes and I-66 inside the beltway during rush hour. Yeah that's a federal law, in fact. But being able to split lanes saves a TON of time when traffic inevitably slows down... likewise filtering to the front of traffic lights between cars is also a huge time-saver. AND (at the risk of sounding like a PDA), studies have shown that it's SAFER than not splitting because you're much less likely to get rear-ended. I can get anywhere in the SF Bay Area or Los Angeles basin in 1/3 the time it takes in a car. I cut my own commute in LA from 45 minutes (9 miles each way) to 15 minutes because of lane splitting. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4364 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
On 11/8/10 11:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: I may be confused. What do you mean by split lanes? www.laneshare.org Being able to ride between the lanes of cars. It's common practice in California and has been for decades. The rule of thumb is this... at speeds below 35 mph (such as on a freeway), in heavy traffic, you can move over and ride between the cars. People are aware of this and usually will move over for you. In rare cases, they don't, so you drop back in behind them until you can get around them. You should never go more than 10-15 mph over the flow of traffic, and naturally never above the posted speed limit. This generally only happens between the #1 and #2 lanes (the far left lane and the one next to it), but is occasionally done in the other lanes, but isn't recommended. In town, the same rule applies, except that at traffic lights, you can ride right up to the front of the light in between cars, where you are always the first out of the light, out in front of all that traffic. The end result of all this is that motorcycles don't exist in traffic with relation to cars, and vice versa. We can go between cars, and they don't really have to deal with us being in the way because we're between them instead of in front of them when traffic is slow-moving. Describing this to non-riders usually gets a typically bone-headed response of, duh, what happens if somebody opens their door? Well, it'll hurt. BUT, fact is, it doesn't happen. People are very respectful of bikes and usually give them space. In fact, the only cars I've ever encountered that don't are Priuses, since they tend to think they own the road. But as of 1/1/11, hybrids are being banished from the carpool lane in California, much to their chagrin. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4365 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
Knowing what drivers are like on I-66 I wouldn't be surprised. Actually in this area its almost a guarantee of a near (if not) fatal accident. Those drivers are dangerous. I drive a MIni and in this area I have to be very alert to all those over-sized SUVs whose drivers are usually talking on their cell phones, eating breakfast, putting on makeup etc. A few weeks ago I had to replace a rim and tire after being forced off the pavement because of an SUV driver not paying attention. Another example I remember from last year, I was giving my wife a ride to work and saw some nit actually reading the paper and drinking coffee while traffic was going about 25mph or so. Motorcycles are even more at a risk from those geniuses in this area. While this can be a nice area to live and work, the DC/MD/NoVA area has about the most congested traffic in the country, just behind the LA region. So if you are moving into this area you have to take that into account. For instance my wife works in Bethesda, MD while we live on the western edge of Northern Virginia. Its about 35 to 40 miles one way. During rush hour if you're lucky it takes about an hour and a quarter to an hour and a half. If you're not, the trip can take over 2 hours easily. regards, larry On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: I may be confused. What do you mean by split lanes? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:53 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 10:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: HOV regulations in Virginia allow motorcycles to use the HOV lanes and I-66 inside the beltway during rush hour. Yeah that's a federal law, in fact. But being able to split lanes saves a TON of time when traffic inevitably slows down... likewise filtering to the front of traffic lights between cars is also a huge time-saver. AND (at the risk of sounding like a PDA), studies have shown that it's SAFER than not splitting because you're much less likely to get rear-ended. I can get anywhere in the SF Bay Area or Los Angeles basin in 1/3 the time it takes in a car. I cut my own commute in LA from 45 minutes (9 miles each way) to 15 minutes because of lane splitting. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4366 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
Larry.. why doesn't she take the Omni-Ride bus to the Franconia/Springfield Metro? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing what drivers are like on I-66 I wouldn't be surprised. Actually in this area its almost a guarantee of a near (if not) fatal accident. Those drivers are dangerous. I drive a MIni and in this area I have to be very alert to all those over-sized SUVs whose drivers are usually talking on their cell phones, eating breakfast, putting on makeup etc. A few weeks ago I had to replace a rim and tire after being forced off the pavement because of an SUV driver not paying attention. Another example I remember from last year, I was giving my wife a ride to work and saw some nit actually reading the paper and drinking coffee while traffic was going about 25mph or so. Motorcycles are even more at a risk from those geniuses in this area. While this can be a nice area to live and work, the DC/MD/NoVA area has about the most congested traffic in the country, just behind the LA region. So if you are moving into this area you have to take that into account. For instance my wife works in Bethesda, MD while we live on the western edge of Northern Virginia. Its about 35 to 40 miles one way. During rush hour if you're lucky it takes about an hour and a quarter to an hour and a half. If you're not, the trip can take over 2 hours easily. regards, larry On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: I may be confused. What do you mean by split lanes? On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:53 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 10:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: HOV regulations in Virginia allow motorcycles to use the HOV lanes and I-66 inside the beltway during rush hour. Yeah that's a federal law, in fact. But being able to split lanes saves a TON of time when traffic inevitably slows down... likewise filtering to the front of traffic lights between cars is also a huge time-saver. AND (at the risk of sounding like a PDA), studies have shown that it's SAFER than not splitting because you're much less likely to get rear-ended. I can get anywhere in the SF Bay Area or Los Angeles basin in 1/3 the time it takes in a car. I cut my own commute in LA from 45 minutes (9 miles each way) to 15 minutes because of lane splitting. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
On 11/8/10 12:07 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: Knowing what drivers are like on I-66 I wouldn't be surprised. No offense but everybody says this about just about everywhere. We all think we live with the worst drivers. :) I drive a MIni and in this area I have to be very alert to all those over-sized SUVs whose drivers are usually talking on their cell phones, eating breakfast, putting on makeup etc. A few weeks ago I had to replace a rim and tire after being forced off the pavement because of an SUV driver not paying attention. This is why (whether in a car or on a bike), I stay away from clumps of traffic. It's just inviting disaster, but even moreso on a bike. People will notice you if you give them a reason to notice you. Staying near them in traffic at the same speed is akin to having a cloaking device, no matter how many lights you might have on. Also no offense, but if you think you're alert in your car, try riding a motorcycle. Stuff that would just piss you off would kill us, so we learn very quickly to predict what other cars are going to do before they do it, and avoid it. While this can be a nice area to live and work, the DC/MD/NoVA area has about the most congested traffic in the country, just behind the LA region. Yeah I think LA is probably the worst in congestion, which is why lane splitting works so well. I think the concept can be successfully introduced to any area. It can be easily billed as pro-green because motorcycles get easily double the gas mileage of a car (3x that of an SUV). They're smaller, easier to park, as of the last few years, they have the same emissions controls as cars so they're clean-burning too. But with a proper introduction to the public... i.e. pass the law legalizing it, but don't activate it for a month or so, and then let the local TV news and newspapers advertise it. Make it known that the cops aren't going to tolerate cars messing with bikes, but at the same time, they expect riders to be equally courteous of cars. I'm actively working with a local state rep here in Oregon to get lane splitting legalized in 2011. If there's any way to make it happen, I'm going to make it happen. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4370 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Moving to DC
There would also be a rather large contingency of riders that will be more than happy to remove the door opener's head from their torso. That should be deterrent enough... On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 11:51 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... SEE! I told you somebody would invariably say that. I call complete BS. If somebody did that, yeah they would seriously injure (or kill) a motorcyclist and end up in jail as a result. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4371 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I don't 'cause I live here and I know what some of the dumb rednecks around here will stoop to doing, and think about the consequences later... I know it would never pass the Virginia legislature because of the elitist attitude that abounds there, like I said If I can't go you can't either On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 11:51 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... SEE! I told you somebody would invariably say that. I call complete BS. If somebody did that, yeah they would seriously injure (or kill) a motorcyclist and end up in jail as a result. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4373 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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That is of course if they allow for any transportation funding at all. Given the current state government's hostility to this area, and the power of the Richmond and Tidewater legislators, I really doubt that this region will get anything more than a trickle of DOT project money for a while. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: I don't 'cause I live here and I know what some of the dumb rednecks around here will stoop to doing, and think about the consequences later... I know it would never pass the Virginia legislature because of the elitist attitude that abounds there, like I said If I can't go you can't either On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, RobG sled...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/8/10 11:51 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: I think he means riding between lanes of stopped traffic.. which on the east coast may introduce a motorcyclist to the inside of a car door fairly quickly... SEE! I told you somebody would invariably say that. I call complete BS. If somebody did that, yeah they would seriously injure (or kill) a motorcyclist and end up in jail as a result. Rob ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4376 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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In my previous job, I commuted from Manassas, Virginia to L'Enfant Plaza in DC. Using a combination of driving to the Vienna Orange Line metro stop, and the DC metro, the commute would take about 2 hours one way. Commuting to L'Enfant Plaza from Manassas using the Virginia Rail Express took about an hour. That said, if you're still looking for a job in this area, don't just look at DC, Alexandria and Arlington. There aare quite a few CF related positions in Reston, Herndon and Fairfax county. The downside for most of those place sis that public transportation is very minimal - you'll most likely have to drive. hth, larry On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:40 AM, sonicDivx sonicd...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I commuted from up in White Marsh , Md via MARC train for 3 years and know lots of people who do. Its not the best but as Scott says further out gives you a lot more options. just need to weigh pro cons. So in my case it was 15 min. to train station and then 1 -1.5 to DC so was getting up anywhere from 4-5ish depending on train. Plus no driving into DC, downside train delays and limited train times based on my stop (closer to dc better) So look at the MARC train lines to find places. Also Scott is right about salary. True Senior developers should not have trouble in DC getting $100k. Baltimore may be less, though has been improving . More CF jobs in DC than Baltimore. If you are still looking for job , make sure resume is on DICE. A large portion of the recruiters use that (I get anywhere from 1-3 direct requests a week). Good luck. Kevin On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: Jason, Here's my take.. it's very dependant on the following: Your salary coming in, what your looking for house-wise, and what you consider a long commute. There are commuter options even in the way outer suburbs... I'm currently living about 13 miles past Leesburg (Loudoun County), and I take a commuter bus in. It's about two hours but... I don't have to drive. The DC Metro system is being extended out toward Dulles Airport into Sterling in Loudoun County.. There are rail options from Fredericksburg, Manassas, Baltimore, and as far west as Harper's Ferry West Virginia. The further out you are the lower housing prices are, for the most part. Most of the 'burbs are pretty safe... There's a fairly wide range salary wise, but I wouldn't accept less than $80k. I've seen positions offer salaries as high as 100K. Northern Virginia has an interesting tax situation, we are the cash cow for Virginia, however we get very little back in services, consequently the NoVa counties have to cover their own infrastructure costs, so property taxes across NoVa are fairly high. As an example, the Virginia Department of Transportation, handed Loudoun County a check for $1000 as VDOT's share of covering state road costs.. saying that it all they could afford -Original Message- From: Jason Birchman [mailto:birchma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:25 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Moving to DC I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4354 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Simon: Perfect. That's exactly what I am looking for. I know very little about DC neighborhoods, so this really helps. I need a yard because I am bringing 3 dogs with me - and I prefer they not do their business in the house. :) And I have done the multi-unit living with 1 dog - which was a nightmare. I am looking to buy but not cool to the idea of renting, but this really gives me an idea of where to begin my search. JB From:Simon Horwith si...@horwith.com To:cf-jobs-talk cf-jobs-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 10:20:36 PM Subject: Re: Moving to DC So if I understand: you want to commute into downtown via Metro, plan to buy (otherwise you wouldn't care about property taxes), and want a place with a yard and low crime. I'm not sure what you consider a good price, but my immediate gut is to say you should look at neighborhoods toward the VA end of the Orange line. Basically, from VA Square to Fairfax stations you should be able to find places that have a yard and aren't priced outrageously (which is relative, mind you). Greenbelt isn't a terrible suggestion, though I wouldn't live there, myself (of course, I lived downtown, so take what I say about the suburbs with a grain of salt). There are some OK neighborhoods towards the VA end of the blue line (near Franconia/Springfield) but I personally wouldn't bother with it unless you're really into traffic and malls (and a lot of other nonsense, including high odds of soul-less neighbors). Shady Grove, and suburbs beyond (Damascus, all the way out to Fredrick) is a really good option for you if you want to rent (prices, unless you go WAY out, aren't going to be low if you're looking for a yard, etc nd plan to buy) and don't mind driving just a little to get to the metro station. To be honest, that's about all I can recommend that's out in the suburbs. If I were looking for what you describe personally, I'd maybe look towards the end of the orange line or red line like I said, but would most likely look in town at neighborhoods that E-W are from 16th St NW to 10th St NE and N-S are from Florida Ave to Capital. If you aren't looking to spend too much really and you really want that yard, I'd say your best decent bet in town is going to be somewhere between the Easternmost 10 blocks of NW and the Western most 10 blocks of NE My $0.02. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Nylon Technology http://www.nylontechnology.com blog - http://www.horwith.com On 11/4/2010 3:24 PM, Jason Birchman wrote: I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4355 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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DC is the ONE housing marking in the US that was not materially impacted by the housing downturn. Houses in Georgetown, the swank Northwestern part of the District near Georgetown University, have actually increased in value somewhat. You will probably find the most affordable, good housing in one of the Virginia or Maryland suburbs of DC, of which there are many. -Original Message- From: Jason Birchman [mailto:birchma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:25 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Moving to DC I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4346 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Do you have a job secured yet Jason? -- Sent from my mobile deviceThank You, Michael Perlstein VP Program Management 301-468-9246nbsp;x154 703-869-6086On Nov 4, 2010 6:51 PM, Jason Birchman lt;birchma...@yahoo.comgt; wrote: I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4348 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Hi Jason, As people have mentioned, there are many areas in and around Washington DC. Like many urban metro areas, there are distinct characters to different neighborhoods and it would be really hard to give you a comprehensive list of those here. I'll recommend a site I've found to be pretty useful in that it's geared towards discussions about particular neighborhoods. Lots of discussions already enough to make your head spin! http://www.city-data.com/forum/washington-dc-suburbs-maryland/ for Maryland suburbs http://www.city-data.com/forum/northern-virginia/ for Virginia Suburbs http://www.city-data.com/forum/washington-dc/ for DC propper Other than that, you might try looking up the Washingtonian Magazine to see if they have some articles archived or you might even be able to buy a past issue that details one of their best neighborhoods pieces that they do every years. As folks have mentioned, DC itself will be the priciest, at least in the more safe parts. Generally you want to look in the Northwest section of the city - all addresses will have NW. You could certainly find things in parts of NE that are livable, but they probably will have somewhat higher crime figures. DC is great if you don't want to deal with a lot of driving, but so is Arlington and Alexandria which are both on the Metro and parts of both are pretty walkable. Other areas are on the Metro as well, but may not be as walkable except if you live in a fairly small area near their downtowns. If walking isn't a concern, than you have a lot to pick from, except that I would urge you to not make a final decision until you have a good idea where you and your spouse will be working. As you may or may not have heard, traffic in the area can be pretty horrible and commutes of well over an hour each way (by car) are common. So optimally you want to do as much planning as possible when it comes to finding something near where you work. While there are lots of jobs in DC itself, there are also a ton in the suburbs due to many gov't contracting facilities being pushed out for lack of space, or just companies that have located further out of town so as not to pay exorbitant rent. As far as salaries, I couldn't tell you offhand since it's been many years since I've done Cold Fusion, but I'm guessing you could probably get anywhere from $60K to $100K++ depending on your experience level, degrees, etc. There are lots of beautiful neighborhoods but along with the higher salaries, the prices of homes are a lot higher hear than in many areas of the country. Generally it's going to be hard to find a decent single family home for much under $300K unless you go pretty far out (ie 30+ miles from DC or are in a less desirable neighborhood in the city (or one of the closer burbs). Hope this helps! @LeviWallach http://www.twitter.com/leviwallach On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Jason Birchman birchma...@yahoo.com wrote: I am a Senior ColdFusion Developer that is moving out to the Washington, DC. Obviously housing is a premium in the DC area. I would like to buy or rent a house in one of the suburbs, so that we can have a fenced in yard for my dogs. What suburbs are the safest and most affordable in DC that have single family homes (not townhomes/apartments)? Which area is lower in taxes? Commuting by train/light rail would be ideal. Also, what is a typical salary range for Senior CF Developers in the DC area? Thanks! - Jason ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4350 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
