Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andy Thanks for this. I have few comments to add because our thoughts are pretty much the same, I'm glad to say. I am a bit uncomfortable with the phrase "SSH due to X" anyway, because SSH has no meaning except wrt a datum, not in an absolute sense. The phrase "due to X" aptly describes

Re: [CF-metadata] how to use ocean_mixed_layer_thickness_defined_by_*

2018-05-04 Thread Nan Galbraith
I agree, but just wanted to chime in that I appreciate that the definitions spell out the meanings of these terms. - Nan On 4/26/18 10:59 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: Dear Evan, To an oceanographer, the termĀ 'sigma-theta' is as well-known as 'temperature' and the Standard Names include

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

2018-05-04 Thread Saulter, Andrew
Jonathon, Roy, Steven, Many thanks for your advice on these. Just to summarise, the proposed CF names, units and descriptors following our discussions are listed below. Have a great weekend everyone Andy sea_surface_tertiary_swell_wave_from_direction units: degree The quantity with standard

Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP (including 1 or more that originated in C4MIP) Standard Names: Carbon and Nitrogen terms

2018-05-04 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
Dear Jonathan, Alison, (a) carbon_dioxide vs. 13C_dioxide: I agree that carbon_dioxide is correct and clearer; (b) surface_upward_mass_flux_of_nitrogen_compounds_expressed_as_nitrogen: I selected the shorter form (surface_upward_mass_flux_of_nitrogen) for consistency with terms such as

Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP Standard names: isotopic fluxes, mass contents and ratios.

2018-05-04 Thread Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
Dear Alison, I accept your suggestion for 1,2,5,6,7,8: I've highlighted in yellow the parts of the names which should be removed, and in blue parts I've added to bring the terms into the suggested form. 3,4,9: For names which refer to water molecules containing one 2H atom and one 1H atom you

Re: [CF-metadata] C4MIP: final two terms for CMIP6

2018-05-04 Thread Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC
Dear Martin, Thank you for proposing these two C4MIP names. They both look good to me - I've added some definitions. 1. CMIP6 sort name nppStem. Net Primary Production Allocated to Stem > For the related variables nppOther and nppLeaf respetively, we have >

Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP (including 1 or more that originated in C4MIP) Standard Names: Carbon and Nitrogen terms

2018-05-04 Thread Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC
Dear Jonathan, Well spotted! I think they should all say 'mass_content'. So we should have nitrogen_mass_content_of_forestry_and_agricultural_products (kg m-2) for nProduct soil_mass_content_of_nitrogen (kg m-2) for nSoil. I will update them in the standard names editor. They will still be

Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP (including 1 or more that originated in C4MIP) Standard Names: Carbon and Nitrogen terms

2018-05-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Alison Yes, I agree with Martin's 13C and 14C names, which I queried. I also agree with you about nitrogen_compounds_expressed_as_nitrogen. Reading through this list, I compared these: > litter_mass_content_of_nitrogen (kg m-2) > nitrogen_content_of_forestry_and_agricultural_products (kg

[CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

2018-05-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andy Yes, that looks good - a sufficient amount of information. Thanks very much. Happy bank holiday. Jonathan - Forwarded message from "Saulter, Andrew" - > Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 08:34:30 + > From: "Saulter, Andrew"

Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP (including 1 or more that originated in C4MIP) Standard Names: Carbon and Nitrogen terms

2018-05-04 Thread Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC
Dear Martin and Jonathan, Thank you for proposing these new carbon and nitrogen standard names for PMIP and for the discussion. I think these proposals are looking good and I have accepted many of them. I do have one question that relates to proposals 6-11 regarding 13C_dioxide and

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

2018-05-04 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jonathan, I totally agree with Andy on this point. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries should be sent to

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed additional names for sea_surface_wave parameters

2018-05-04 Thread Saulter, Andrew
Dear Jonathon, Before I put in a version for all the components, does the form of the below look OK? sea_surface_wave_directional_spread units: degree Directional spread represents the (one-sided) directional width of the wave directional spectrum, S(t,x,y,f,theta) where t is time, x and y are

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed new standard name for storm surge residual

2018-05-04 Thread Saulter, Andrew
Dear Jonathon, Thought I was so close... :-) But concerned that I am missing something, so I could do with some clarification before suggesting another iteration. So please can you comment on the below. The thing that I am failing to understand is the relationship between sea_surface_height