Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-03-18 Thread Klaus Zimmermann
I think it's good when CF files can be interpreted, ideally both by humans and computers, and ideally unambiguously. That means it should be easy, for example, to color in in the five pointed star posted by @davidhassell above, which region should be used for averaging over this geometry. It

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-03-18 Thread Benjamin Adams
Closed #354. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://github.com/cf-convention/cf-conventions/issues/354*event-6267325419__;Iw!!G2kpM7uM-TzIFchu!m1CrGUpRgHUnEshBB-xbF7v25agnWvDk4W3OwrJEDsP5BexEBZ9KM_dM4_fOt6bbxMXr_RBQUbg$ You are receiving this

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-09 Thread Dave Allured
The role of CF is rules for metadata, which is mainly labeling and data structures. CF should try to stay within that role and avoid content details, notwithstanding the current complexity of section 7.5. Geometry consistency and compatibility is well addressed by other conventions. CF

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-09 Thread Roy Lowry
My experience of spatial databases (Oracle Spatial about 5 years ago) is that self-intersections caused the geometry to be tagged as invalid forcing it to be constructed from a collection of simple polygons. Geometries need to work with established tools which will dictate any standards. --

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-09 Thread David Blodgett
We have lots and lots of polygons with self intersections where the polygon closes on itself at a node. It may not cross but it does need to pinch off an open back up -- so an intersection is real. I don't think CF should have a horse in this race.

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-09 Thread Klaus Zimmermann
There certainly are ways to interpret self-intersecting polygons in a consistent manner. But is there a use-case for this in the realm of CF? For self-intersecting lines, this seems clear (any kind of route, for instance, from ships, planes, etc.), but for polygons, I struggle. Hence my

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-09 Thread Chris Little
I think that the main implication of allowing self intersecting edges of a polygon (like the possibly 5, probably 2 1/2 sided polygon from @davidhassell above) is people may use the wrong inside/outside algorithms and get unexpected results. The main ones are left-hand/right-hand, winding

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-09 Thread David Hassell
Hello, I agree with Dave that there are no rules on that, but I'd like to fully understand what you are suggesting for polygons. Do you mean "are different _parts_ of a multi-part polygon allowed to overlap" or do you mean "are different _edges_ of an individual polygon part allowed to

Re: [CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-08 Thread David Blodgett
>From my recollection, there are no rules on topology in the spec, so yes. Self >intersections are fine. -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:

[CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Are geometries allowed to self-intersect? (Issue #354)

2022-02-08 Thread Benjamin Adams
In CF Conventions section 7.5 a number of cases for geometries are supplied. Are "line" and "polygon" geometries as well as individual multipart analogs allowed to self-intersect themselves? -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: