Russ,
I don't wish to get into a heavy debate on this, and as the campaigns that
are being sent are by subscription all those issues you have pointed out
become mute.
Now for someone else then this might be something that they could consider.
--
Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andys
indeed there are many such companies out there, different people will
have different experiences, you will find varied reviews of them all
on google.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
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>> a cheap solution for b
that would depend.
If you are purely talking about the cost to send the email then yes.
But are you taking into consideration the time you need to spend to
actually provide the same service that companies like sendgrid do.
setting up relationships with DNSBL lists and spam databases, all the
majo
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
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> a cheap solution for bulk email is www.sendgrid.com which solves all
> your worries,
> We are working on a CFML application that wraps around their API to
> create CF based bulk mailing solution.
I has a conversation with someone last w
Well that is expensive when you compare that our solution is actually free.
--
Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:
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> a cheap solution for bulk email is www.se
Thanks Azadi, I have moved this part of the system to another dedicated
email server that is controlled by me now.
Which now seems to be working great, but I will keep that in mind for the
future.
--
Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
Google+: http://plus.google.com/1081
a cheap solution for bulk email is www.sendgrid.com which solves all
your worries,
We are working on a CFML application that wraps around their API to
create CF based bulk mailing solution.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Azadi Saryev wrote:
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> Andrew
>
> Not sure if you you solved this or not
Andrew
Not sure if you you solved this or not...
IIRC, gmail/google apps mail also has a rate limit in addition to
daily mails per account limit - if you exceed some number of emails
per minute it starts rejecting mail. "Some number" was sometimes
different in my tests, but it hovered around 60-
start here
http://www.wireshark.org/docs/
create a filter to watch only the SMTP traffic
send some emails, until 1 fails.
Then compare the traffic for the failed email to the working emails and see
what the difference was.
Did gmail respond in the same way, or did it in fact send a rejection
mess
Ok had to install wireshark, as it started happening again.
So what specifically do I need to do to see what I need to see.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
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> Wireshark certainly is daunting, but if you start reading the guide it will
> start to make sense.
> All you re
Wireshark certainly is daunting, but if you start reading the guide it will
start to make sense.
All you really need to do is set it monitoring, send the email from CF that
gets stuck, and look at the traffic that resulted, it will show you the
conversation between the 2 servers and if Google did
Hey Russ, something OT do you do dedicated hosting? If so do you want to
ping me offlist, have some questions regarding a dedicated server with Plesk
Panel.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
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> did you try wireshark?
>
> --
Regards,
Andrew Scott
WebSite: http://www.andysco
No not yet Russ, being a server that I don't own I am a bit reluctant. But
if I have no choice then I have no choice, but if I have too do this.
What specifically would I be looking for? I find wireshark daunting at the
best of times.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Russ Michaels wrote:
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> d
did you try wireshark?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:
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> Well I went looking through the mail box, and there are emails there that
> have been sent. So it looks like it is being selective, but not sure why...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Billy Cravens
> wrote:
Well I went looking through the mail box, and there are emails there that
have been sent. So it looks like it is being selective, but not sure why...
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Billy Cravens wrote:
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> My experience has been that it automatically overwrites the from address to
> the spe
My experience has been that it automatically overwrites the from address to the
specified, but I only deal with that in development. (Perhaps that behavior has
changed recently)
Billy Cravens
bdcrav...@gmail.com
On Aug 31, 2011, at 1:45 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:
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> Thanks Billy, that was m
Thanks Billy, that was my intial reaction. As I had come across that post
about the SPF and mail limits etc before.
Which is why I thought it might have been a relay issue to begin with,
because the mail is not actually sent using accounts email address. It is
sent through that account, and sort
If you can send email, then you haven't hit the limit.
Have you identified any patterns (size, to, from, cc, etc) on the messages that
are unsuccessful?
Billy Cravens
bdcrav...@gmail.com
On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:
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> Bill,
>
> It does sound very similar, but there
Bill,
It does sound very similar, but there are two things that doesn't gel with
me here.
1) this would mean that no more emails can be sent from this user, but I can
send another email and it will be delivered fine.
2) It also says that for this to be true, then an email will be sitting in
the
Very similar to what you're reporting:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Apps/thread?tid=5f96d0e5cfc60a95&hl=en
It can be a limit issue - I believe Google's SMTP server reject all connections
from that user once you hit limit (500/day or 2000/day for a premium account; I
am very c
you could use wireshark to confirm this is the case, it will show you the
commication between coldfusion and google so you can see if cf is getting a
response.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:
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> That is still not an issue, this has been working for years. It has only
> just
That is still not an issue, this has been working for years. It has only
just started to have these problems, and again I tried re-sending one at a
time and one at a time fails.
Like I said Google says that the error I pasted is a network bottle neck, as
the reason is it times out waiting for a r
how many emails are you sending per day through gmail, there are limits, and
it might be blocking you if you have exceeded them.
For google Apps it is 500 per day per user.
--
Russ Michaels
www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services & solutions
www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdF
Thanks Rex, but your assuming it is the gmail account. All my tests show
that this is not the case, as we have another server we ran the same
application on it, and it all works fine.
So this is not as intermittent as you think, the failure rate is actually
very high. We are talking like 20k emai
Sorry, just trying to help. It's hard to pin down an intermittent
problem like yours.
I've also had problems with GMail's SMTP and IMAP every now and then.
Maybe you can benefit from a third party email service?
- Rex
On 8/30/2011 4:33 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:
> Rex,
>
> Nothing you said mak
Rex,
Nothing you said makes sense, nor is it a solution. I am very well aware
that accounts have been migrating for Google Apps, that is not an issue and
has never affected any of my other domains or emails at gmail. And it was
one of the very first things I checked here.
Secondly the user/passw
Google can have availability problems sometimes. Also, one of these
could be the reason:
* They don't allow you to change the from address. You must provide
the proper username/password for the email to send. You say that
that is working, but I never got that to work, but I us
The other thing I should mention is that this has only just started
happening as of 5 days ago, the site has been running for 8 years.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:
> I thought I would do a test and it appears to not be a relay issue, by
> sending a dummy email from and t
I thought I would do a test and it appears to not be a relay issue, by
sending a dummy email from and to addresses that aren't the actualy smtp
account they were sent and received fine.
All I can find on Google is that it might be a bottleneck, but then why does
some mail get through and some don
Make sure that the email admin is allowing relay from the cf server's ip
address.
On Aug 30, 2011 5:42 PM, "Andrew Scott" wrote:
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> This is a ColdFusion 8 server, and not all mail is having this problem, as
> it appears that any email that is sent without the from or to address
> contains the n
This is a ColdFusion 8 server, and not all mail is having this problem, as
it appears that any email that is sent without the from or to address
contains the name of the email account it is being sent from.
I am sort of think it is a relay issue, or something but can't seem to find
anything that
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