On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Casey Dougall wrote:
...
> On a side-note, you could do the same deal with Dream Weaver for $199. At
> least I would have Ctr-Shift-U for uploading files, I still can't find out
> how to make a keyboard shortcut for it in Builder.
Check the Aptana prefs, as I just
.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education
>
>
>
Well at least they leave you with a way to cheat their system... I could
just have my Father purchase it for me he is staff @ k-12 public school.
That fits in the description, and it's not like he's going to be missin
ymond Camden wrote:
>
> The price is 199. See the comment from Terry on this blog post:
>
> http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>> I have seen a price
The price is 199. See the comment from Terry on this blog post:
http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:
> I have seen a price for the academic version, but I don't want to
ve academic pricing available? I'm guessing it just hasn't made it
> up there yet as the Flex Builder version they list is still version 3.
>
> Judah
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>>
>> But there are good academic prices
t; But there are good academic prices though:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM, wrote:
>>
>> To be clear, "educational use" in my understanding means you can teach a
>> CFML class u
But there are good academic prices though:
http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM, wrote:
>
> To be clear, "educational use" in my understanding means you can teach a
> CFML class using the server and IDE in the cl
To be clear, "educational use" in my understanding means you can teach a
CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the
students. It does not mean that any higher education institution can
use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free.
As a note, it
3:09 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
>
>
> I was at a CFUnited a couple years ago and Adobe was talking about a new
> plan they had started that offered Adobe products for free to
> educational institutions. I haven't heard much
...@viviotech.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:09 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
I was at a CFUnited a couple years ago and Adobe was talking about a new
plan they had started that offered Adobe products for free to
educational institutions. I haven&#
;
> Most of the schools I know about are teaching Java. Sounds to me
> like an uphill battle, but it is in Adobe's interest and long overdue.
> I would like to hear more about how Adobe plans to market to education
> institutions. Is the ColdFusion Server actually going
tts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:09 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Education
> Just looking at ColdFusion alone, we've had a new major version every
> year for the past 4 years. Which means that if you had a 4 year college
> course that included CF prepared in
-Original Message-
From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:i...@turnkey.to]
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:30 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: -Re: Education
Totally off topic but...
Is Simon Baron-Cohen related to Sasha Baron-Cohen (AKA Borat)?
It would be a very interesting dichotomy if they were
> Well the quote was just a highlight. But if you want the real in-depth
> thought process behind this...
>
> The most respected minds in the health / psychology community regarding
> Autism (Simon Baron-Cohen in particular) are citing similarities between
> Einstein and people with Asperger Syndr
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2988647.stm
> >
> > Highlight: "He was also a notoriously confusing lecturer."
> >
> > Does not say to me "pretty good at communicating with people", but of
> > course, you can interpret it how you like.
>
> I think that you're reading way too much into a sin
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2988647.stm
>
> Highlight: "He was also a notoriously confusing lecturer."
>
> Does not say to me "pretty good at communicating with people", but of
> course, you can interpret it how you like.
I think that you're reading way too much into a single pullquote.
P
> > One of the things that tends to frustrate me about job placement ads is
> > that they always seem to want you to be some combination of Einstein's
> > level of technical expertise and Obama's speaking finesse. ;) Forget
> > that Obama isn't an especially technical individual and that Einstein
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Mark Kruger wrote:
>
> Rick,
>
> That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just
> shy
> of a master in Sociology - and here I am working in computer development :)
>
> It's not surprising how many folks have Music as a part of their skil
> I believe that that while you can phrase computer science as a science,
> there is much more art than science to it. There is artistry in seeing
> all of the parts and guiding them into the whole. It really makes sense
> that musicians and programmer/analysts tend to go hand in hand.
Well, no
> In any case, there's nothing that was in my degree back in the early
> 1970s that's relevant to today's world. But i have been building
> web sites the internet first went commercial. I built my first web
> site using Frontpage 1 - that taught me as much about building web
> sites as almos
> I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience
> in it's place.
Experience is very difficult to quantify. Many hiring programs require
some sort of easily quantifiable information as the first filter. In
most places, you need the degree to get in the door, then you need
> One of the things that tends to frustrate me about job placement ads is
> that they always seem to want you to be some combination of Einstein's
> level of technical expertise and Obama's speaking finesse. ;) Forget
> that Obama isn't an especially technical individual and that Einstein
> wasn't
> I'd say you're pretty accurate in your guess. I don't have it and
> don't want it either. For me it's as much a matter of principle as
> anything. I got where I am today by figuring it out on my own (as I
> think most CFers have) and to me that's worth WAY more than somebody
> who sat in a cl
> Just looking at ColdFusion alone, we've had a new major version every
> year for the past 4 years. Which means that if you had a 4 year college
> course that included CF prepared in 2006, it would be outdated by 3
> major versions by this year when the students graduated. I expect a
> similar ki
Bryan Stevenson wrote:
> Speaking as a non-musician.
>
>
Poppycock, you picked up my guitar when I brought it in the office and
played it.
> Actually I think I really am onejust never had the time to keep
> playing ;-)
>
>
I believe that that while you can phrase computer science a
Billy Cox wrote:
> I'm a musician as well. scary!!
>
> Rick Faircloth wrote:
>
>> I think you're right, Mark.
>>
>> Music, especially theory, is very logical and an lot
>> like programming...just a different medium.
>>
>>
*raises up guitar, and keyboard and rests them on the desk by his ke
> On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 15:17 -0500, s. isaac dealey wrote:
> >
> > In my case in particular, my skills are fairly slanted toward the
> > technical, meaning that my people skills are rusty.
>
> LOLI think that's just a programmer trait ;-)
>
> My staff once compared me to the new toilet pap
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 15:17 -0500, s. isaac dealey wrote:
>
> In my case in particular, my skills are fairly slanted toward the
> technical, meaning that my people skills are rusty.
>
LOLI think that's just a programmer trait ;-)
My staff once compared me to the new toilet paper my partner
Well, Asperger's doesn't predispose one to people skills. I also see
solutions in my head and generally take care of it before I get to
writing anything down; it's part of the alternative way of thinking
that allows Aspies to see patterns easily etc. Sure, my people skills
suck too, but that's som
lk
Subject: Education
Just curious..
I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience
in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion
people who have these and do you have one yourself?
For me, I don't have any college experience and I would g
>It's not surprising how many folks have Music as a part of their skill set
>who are also programmers. There's a natural synergy there I think.
Music and mathematics are processed by adjacent regions of right parietal
cerebral cortex, and programming of course uses the basic skill set of
mathe
I can remember coding I did from more than 10 years ago, but I can't
remember to pick up milk when I go to the grocery store for diapers (or vice
versa!). I suppose that' what 40 will do to you!
BTW - to chime in on the whole education thread - I have a BA degree in
Religion which,
> I get you though...it strikes me as odd when others can't see the
> patterns I do. For me I think it's due to my memory...it even scares
> me sometimesremembering line numbers or code above/below the code
> you are remembering 5 years after writing it is just creepy.
Now that's some memory
I just love that the video labels him a "manualist" ... awesome.
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On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:29 -0500, s. isaac dealey wrote:
I was trying to find some way of responding to this that wouldn't seem
> conceited... and couldn't really come up with anything, so I'll just go
> ahead and say it. I thought everyone did this?
>
It's OK to have skill that makes you good
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 11:52 -0400, Rick Faircloth wrote:
> It's ok to "go away" in your mind sometimes, Bryan, as long as you come
> back... :o)
hehe...well usually it's a quick tripnice break in the day really ;-)
-
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote:
> I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience
> in it's place.
I think you will find that alot of these jobs requiring a BA/BS are in
a more corporate environment where HR reps who know very little about
technology
Bryan Stevenson:
> It's just like in "A Beautiful Mind" where Nash saw the patterns in
> encrypted documents etc. (not that I am in any way in the same
> league...but you get my drift). I just see it all in my head and mess
> with it there before writing the code. Kinda drives people nuts when
> > Jazz anyone? ;)
>
> So, what's free-form jazz? Is that kind of like when you just make up
> code and hope it compiles?
What people call "cowboy coding"? ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_coding
Oh funny, check the "advantages" section:
"Developers maintain a freeform working envi
Now that's about the most unusual instrument I've seen!
I just don't see how he does the fastest runs in the piece!
Hilarious!
-Original Message-
From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:09 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Educa
It's ok to "go away" in your mind sometimes, Bryan, as long as you come
back... :o)
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Education
Speaking as a non-musician..
es, go for a 25-mile bike ride,
let that problem settle in my brain and begin to solve itself, then come
back later and say, "Oh, I hadn't thought of that before!"...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:i...@turnkey.to]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:14
>
> So, what's free-form jazz? Is that kind of like when you just make up
> code and hope it compiles?
>
Pretty much. ;) 'cept for Coltrane and Miles.
G!
--
Gerald Guido
http://www.myinternetisbroken.com
"Wait. We can't stop here. This is bat country."
-- HST
~~~
> Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music.
Actually there are 12 divisions to the octave in almost all music.
Different cultures tend to use various modes to define their scale.
(Lydian, Dorian, Mixolydian, etc)
And then a broad range of simple triads or more complex chords
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Gerald Guido wrote:
> While I put a high premium on autodidacticism, there is some thing to be
> said having a college degree. Namely, that during the period of life when
> one is most prone to screwing up, they managed to commit to some thing and
> follow through
Judah McAuley:
> Recombination and repetition can produce surprising beauty and
> complexity. Indeed, it is almost always the only thing that does.
I'm suddenly reminded of an unrelated Margaret Mead quote. :)
--
s. isaac dealey :: AutLabs
Creating meaningful employment for people with Autism
> Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music. Hell of a
> language where almost all the meaning is in the timber, cadence and
> inflection.
There is that. Although I was thinking more particularly about sheet
music and things like timing, how 4/4 makes the meaning of the placement
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
>
> Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music. Hell of a
> language where almost all the meaning is in the timber, cadence and
> inflection.
>
> Odd how something that is essentially a mathematical construct with a
> vocabulary
Well Ike, there are only 12 notes (words) in western music. Hell of a
language where almost all the meaning is in the timber, cadence and
inflection.
Odd how something that is essentially a mathematical construct with a
vocabulary of 12 words can convey nearly an infinite shades of meaning.
But
Ian Skinner:
> I think you memory of the ColdFusion version's is a little compressed
> since I clearly remember the buzz of ColdFusion 6 back in 2000-2001.
That doesn't surprise me... :) I didn't go check, I was just throwing
off the top of my head. But I could still easily see someone being 2
> That said the psychology degrees were quite helpful, especially those
> courses dealing with cognition and perception.
I really wish I'd paid more attention to your comments on the lists a
few years ago. ;)
--
s. isaac dealey :: AutLabs
Creating meaningful employment for people with Autism
Speaking as a non-musician.
Actually I think I really am onejust never had the time to keep
playing ;-)
I love music and in life and work all I see are patterns and how things
"fit" or could "fit"which to me sounds a lot like what Isaac said
here:
Li
Eric Cobb:
> Heh...nuclear physics...ColdFusioncoincidence? I think not!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
Yeah, he mentioned that one day when we were talking about his
background. He said he'd kind of stumbled into the job, was working in
an office somewhere and a guy came in a
John M. Bliss:
> At least anecdotally, I'd say that the other part of the brain with a strong
> connection to code is the part responsible for language and communication.
D'oh! Should have replied to this one instead. ;)
--
s. isaac dealey :: AutLabs
Creating meaningful employment for people
Rick Faircloth:
> I think you're right, Mark.
>
> Music, especially theory, is very logical and an lot
> like programming...just a different medium.
>
> If you get into orchestral composition, it's quite OO. ;o)
I have a completely untested hunch that the language centers of the
brain have more
...this story doesn't involve a flute I hope.
b...@bradwood.com wrote:
> *Raises hand*
> Band geek all the way. One time at band camp...
>
> Original Message ----
> Subject: RE: Education
> From: "Mark Kruger"
> Date: Fri, October 23, 20
*Raises hand*
Band geek all the way. One time at band camp...
Original Message
Subject: RE: Education
From: "Mark Kruger"
Date: Fri, October 23, 2009 3:19 pm
To: cf-talk
Rick,
That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just
shy
k
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 4:19 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Education
>
>
> Rick,
>
> That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just s
nt medium.
>
> If you get into orchestral composition, it's quite OO. ;o)
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 4:19 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Education
>
>
> Rick,
&g
8-3733 ext 105
> www.cfwebtools.com
> www.coldfusionmuse.com
> www.necfug.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Education
>
>
> I have 5
October 23, 2009 4:19 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Education
Rick,
That is so funny I have a BA in Theology, a BA in Music and I'm just shy
of a master in Sociology - and here I am working in computer development :)
It's not surprising how many folks have Music as a part of their ski
fwebtools.com
> www.coldfusionmuse.com
> www.necfug.com
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Education
>
>
> I have 5 degrees:
>
> - Associate of Arts (1980)
&
synergy there I think.
-Mark
Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:10 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Education
I
Higher Education...although, I would
hardly truly qualify for a doctorate in the course material here...I just
know enough to make a living as a free-lancer (what else is there a need
for? :o)
Rick
-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com]
Sent: Friday, October 23
Ian Skinner wrote:
> CF 9 - 2009
> CF 8 - 2008
> CF 7 - 2007
> CF 6 - 2006.
>
> I believe that ColdFusion development cycle is two to three years per
> version.
According to Wikipedia yes every two or three years.
2002-May : Macromedia ColdFusion MX version 6.0
2005 : Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7
s. isaac dealey wrote:
> Just looking at ColdFusion alone, we've had a new major version every
> year for the past 4 years.
CF 9 - 2009
CF 8 - 2008
CF 7 - 2007
CF 6 - 2006.
I think you memory of the ColdFusion version's is a little compressed
since I clearly remember the buzz of ColdFusion 6 b
of my development
education has been determined by demand.
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I have something similar, except its in Psychology. Mind you in order for me to
get through graduate psych (MA and PhD - not finished yet), I had to learn to
code.
That said the psychology degrees were quite helpful, especially those courses
dealing with cognition and perception.
>I've got a
BS and an MA in religion, but I was self-taught on computers since I was
a kid. (good Friday thread, btw)
Dominic Watson wrote:
> 1st Class Honours in Musical Theatre here...
>
> Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer
> with a comp science degree. He was wors
Heh...nuclear physics...ColdFusioncoincidence? I think not!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
Thanks,
Eric Cobb
http://www.cfgears.com
s. isaac dealey wrote:
>> Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer
>> with a comp science degree. He was worse
computer science or education.
From a practical standpoint, experience does count the most. I think,
though, that a lot of companies use 'must have a a degree' as a
brainless filter to try and weed out a large number of applicants. Its
an attitude that has always been there.
I personal
> In fact i have doubts about whether
> a degree course could possibly keep up with the changes in technology.
> At best a degree course would only be able to teach general
> principles, because the technology would have moved on by the time any
> graduates actually came into the work force with
> Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer
> with a comp science degree. He was worse than an appalling programmer,
> though I suspect that is not typical.
I took a short-term project for the state of TX a couple years ago. The
project manager at the time told m
> This may be more of a cf-community rather then cf-talk discussion.
Actually there's a cf-jobs-talk list specifically for these kinds of
threads... It doesn't get much traffic. Personally I'm not particular
about where the thread shows up. Mike may move this one shortly.
http://www.houseoffusi
I have a BS is Mathematics with minors in Biology and Physics. My
course work definitely helped me as it taught me about thinking
algorithmically and problem solving.
I do work with some folks with actual CS degrees and their background
does come in useful on occasion. For instance, we had to wri
ace that I'd want to work anyways.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Atkinson [mailto:ma...@aocs.org]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:07 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Education
Guess I'm a little outnumbered - I have no degree. But then I'm an old
fa*t who's been around
Guess I'm a little outnumbered - I have no degree. But then I'm an old
fa*t who's been around and worked in everything over the years from law
to construction before being wowed by the amazing combination of art and
science that is the internet. Our Web Manager has a degree in
nutritional scie
: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:16 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Education
BSC here, in math/physics, and MSC in computer technologies.
Actually, CF may be the 20th language I learned and used.
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Want to reach the ColdFusion community
I've got a BA and an MA, but neither one is in CS or MIS ... Classics
(Ancient Greek and Latin). The 'requirement' of CS / MIS schooling tends
to come from HR, rather than IT hiring managers. Not always true, but
often. Completely agree that the degree is immaterial vs the demonstrated
abil
>
> For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that
> about 5% of the coldfusion community actually have a BA/BS.
>
Most of the IT people that I know and/or have worked with have degrees. But
then again I live in a town with two large universities and a couple of
junior colleg
BSC here, in math/physics, and MSC in computer technologies.
Actually, CF may be the 20th language I learned and used.
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I'm self taught too... I actually have an Art degree qood question and
post.
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I have a university degree too, but when I got my degree, they didnt
have personal computers. The only computers around were what soon
became known as mainframe computers.I graduated in 1974. I have
a business degree, and the principles of marketing haven't changed in
all that time- the s
>Just curious..
>
>I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience
>in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion
>people who have these and do you have one yourself?
>
>For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that
>about 5% of the
I have my BA in Geography, with a Minor in Computing - course that focused
on Physics and Math, not coding :)
And I have a Post-Secondary diploma as a GIS- Cartographic Specialist -
where I got more programming experience than my Minor
Rob
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Dominic Watson <
w
1st Class Honours in Musical Theatre here...
Of around 8-9 devs in our team over the last 18 months we had one developer
with a comp science degree. He was worse than an appalling programmer,
though I suspect that is not typical.
Dominic
2009/10/23 Phillip Vector
>
> Just curious..
>
> I've s
> I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience
> in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion
> people who have these and do you have one yourself?
>
> For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that
> about 5% of the coldfusion c
This may be more of a cf-community rather then cf-talk discussion.
But I do have two college degrees.
Of course they are a Bachelor of Liberal Arts - University Studies and
an Associate of Occupational Studies - Culinary Arts.
But they are college degrees! :-).
I suspect this is what you will
Since I have only used Coldfusion in academic institutions, it is pretty
much 100% in my experience. But, this is probably not indicative of a true
cross-section :)
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote:
>
> Just curious..
>
> I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not
Just curious..
I've seen allot of jobs require lately BA/BS and not accept experience
in it's place. What in your estimation is the percent of coldfusion
people who have these and do you have one yourself?
For me, I don't have any college experience and I would guess that
about 5% of the coldfus
Here is the DL page. It has the terms of usage there:
https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:42 AM, John Barrett wrote:
> Hi,
> I don't know where the best place to ask this on cf talk, so I try here.
> Has anybody used the free education server from
I believe you actually need to be teaching a class in ColdFusion to get the
education license. If the school wants to build their site in CF, they will
need to pay.
If you are a student and just want to play around, just download the
developer edition directly off the adobe website. It is
Hi,
I don't know where the best place to ask this on cf talk, so I try here.
Has anybody used the free education server from adobe?
I am working on a free site for the University of
Hawaii(http://manoa.hawaii.edu/gotnutrients), I am also a student there. Are
there any limits on this serve
D]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: in need of education
>
> I will have to recommend Charlie's tuts on arrays and structs..there
> well written easy to understand and (best of all) free. They helped me
> when I was first getting sta
D]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
>
> Subject: Re: in need of education
>
> I will have to recommend Charlie's tuts on arrays and structs..there
> well written easy to understand and (best of all) free. They helped me
> when I was first getting
Got a link for this stuff?
-Original Message-
From: Ron Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: in need of education
I will have to recommend Charlie's tuts on arrays and structs..there
well written easy to understand and
ew hires up to
> > > speed in CF w/out having to hold their hands.
> > >
> > > /t
> > >
> > > >-Original Message-
> > > >From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:5
> /t
> >
> > >-Original Message-----
> > >From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:51 PM
> > >To: CF-Talk
> > >Subject: in need of education
> > >
> > >I am rapidly coming to the
s the fastest way i know to bring new hires up to
> speed in CF w/out having to hold their hands.
>
> /t
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:51 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject:
ew hires up to
speed in CF w/out having to hold their hands.
/t
>-Original Message-
>From: Tim Laureska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:51 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: in need of education
>
>I am rapidly coming to the conclusion th
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