On Friday 12 Dec 2008, Mike Kear wrote:
Hey Tom, there's no need for more immature 'my IDE's bigger than you
IDE'.Your IDE suits you. Terrific. But it's not a zero sum
game. IT doesnt make any difference to anyone else which one you
like.
No of course not. I took the question to be
CS4 an IDE ? For ColdFusion coders ? Why - does it support proper IDE features
like inspection and refactoring ?
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I've been using Dreamweaver since I've started playing around with web
development.
First stuff I did was a WYSIWYG ASP/MS ACCESS site which was really cool for
me as I had no experience.
After doing that for half a year I took some Macromedia courses (fast track
SQL, FT Coldfusion MX, Advanced
Hey Tom, there's no need for more immature 'my IDE's bigger than you
IDE'.Your IDE suits you. Terrific. But it's not a zero sum
game. IT doesnt make any difference to anyone else which one you
like.
And if i like another IDE what do you care? You use yours. Great.
I'll use mine.
And you're not measured on the pecking order of life by the
length of your signature either.
In Tom's defense, he can't avoid his signature. It's added by his mail
server per policy.
Mike
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To me Spry has its places as does jQuery. I use both quite a bit, honestly
use jQuery more so than Spry but certain things I find a lot easier to use
Spry for so it is one of the tools in my toolbox. CS4 has support for each
but I have yet to experience that support to really comment on it, just
And if i like another IDE what do you care? You use yours. Great.
I'll use mine.Who cares? What counts is does MY IDE work for ME
in the kind of work i do. It might or might not work for you too,
but I dont care. Your implied criticism just smacks of those stupid
and very
Tom Chiverton wrote:
CS4 an IDE ? For ColdFusion coders ? Why - does it support proper IDE
features like inspection and refactoring ?
I've never needed and not likely to use refactoring tools. To me that
goes into the category of snippets and code sweeper, things that other
people find useful.
Doesn't DW have the ability to connect to a CF Server via RDS and let you
browse the CFCs and their functions? Does it fail to drill down more than
that?
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM, s. isaac dealey i...@turnkey.to wrote:
Tom Chiverton wrote:
CS4 an IDE ? For ColdFusion coders ? Why -
Doesn't DW have the ability to connect to a CF Server via RDS and let
you browse the CFCs and their functions? Does it fail to drill down
more than that?
Oh yeah, I believe if you set up RDS as your type for the remote copy
of your site, that gives you access to CFC introspection in
I noticed that the chatter around DW CS4 has increased a lot lately.
Isaac, Aaron, Massimo, Michael, et al, are discussing it, and, Isaac,
you stated that you want to use it.
And for those of you, like Isaac, who would really like to use it,
my question is, why use DW CS4 instead of say,
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:05 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
I noticed that the chatter around DW CS4 has increased a lot lately.
Isaac, Aaron, Massimo, Michael, et al, are discussing it, and, Isaac,
you stated that you want to use it.
And for those
I like the built-in Spry support in DW.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
I noticed that the chatter around DW CS4 has increased a lot lately.
Isaac, Aaron, Massimo, Michael, et al, are discussing it, and, Isaac,
you stated that you want to use
Isaac, Aaron, Massimo, Michael, et al, are discussing it, and, Isaac,
you stated that you want to use it.
I am using it actually... I'm just frustrated by the broken SVN support.
It's the biggest highlight of the what's new for me... I don't want to
have to install Python and regress my local
As another few people have stated, a sweet timesaver is the
smart-close tag feature.
Oh yeah, I forget about that one... it's become second nature, so I take
it for granted. But I'm sure I would notice if I started using another
editor again. :) I use the insight some too, although possibly not
I like the built-in Spry support in DW.
shudder
Ajax can be so agile if it's not spry.
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I've been a CFML dev for 12 years and I still use insight (and/or
right-click tag left-click Edit Tag) because I *absolutely do not trust my
memory and hate to make mistakes*. I know, I know: slightly anal/OCD. But
I swear I'm wicked-fast. :-)
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:39 PM, s. isaac dealey
I like the built in tag reference, so if I am trying to do something that I
haven't done in a while (or perhaps never) there is the built in tag
reference, which gives usage examples. And since I got the CS4 demo
installed and working, my RDS is actually RDSing which I had not been able
to get to
, December 11, 2008 2:46 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
I've been a CFML dev for 12 years and I still use insight (and/or
right-click tag left-click Edit Tag) because I *absolutely do not trust my
memory and hate to make mistakes*. I know, I know
I've been a CFML dev for 12 years and I still use insight (and/or
right-click tag left-click Edit Tag) because I *absolutely do not
trust my memory and hate to make mistakes*. I know, I know: slightly
anal/OCD. But I swear I'm wicked-fast. :-)
That oddly reminds me of my relationship to
?!?!
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:46 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
I've been a CFML dev for 12 years and I still use insight (and/or
right-click tag left-click Edit
I've been asked to do this (notepad coding) in interviews with
CFML/SQL/HTML/JS/etc and I can usually pull it out.
My methods allow me to spend almost zero time fixing typos/syntax errors/etc
where I've helped colleagues track down insidious bugs caused by errant
keystrokes.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008
Well I did not have to pay for the copy on my work laptop. When I started
doing contract work for this group about 4.5 years ago they said we had to
use DW, I think it was version 8 or MX not sure because used both of those
versions for this group. At the time I had only used CFStudio or
So, is it just TortoiseSVN that's not working with DW CS4?
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:24 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
Question about a feature... does DW CS4 let
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From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:24 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
Question about a feature... does DW CS4 let you set manual code folding
points
and then save those folds when the file
And from what I glean from the conversations, SVN is *not* working?!?!
SVN maintains a working copy in your local directories, which is where
it stores the latest repo version for comparisons to provide the status
that indicates which files have changed. A recent update to the format
of the
So, is it just TortoiseSVN that's not working with DW CS4?
I posted a longer answer to this a minute ago, but the thumbnail
synopsuis is that DW's SVN support is not current and that support for
the current format is not backward compatible. So it's not just a
TortoiseSVN+Dreamweaver thing, it's
other than that i am a DW fanboy. (my acfug peeps are always hating
on me). I spend 80% in code and he other 15% in split and only 5% in
design.
Yeah, I don't use split or design at all. I was pretty happy when
someone else on this list mentioned a way to prevent the split view from
popping
So, is it just TortoiseSVN that's not working with DW CS4?
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb406661sliceId=1
Massimo Foti, web-programmer for hire
Tools for ColdFusion, JavaScript and Dreamweaver:
http://www.massimocorner.com
I've been asked to do this (notepad coding) in interviews with
CFML/SQL/HTML/JS/etc and I can usually pull it out.
My methods allow me to spend almost zero time fixing typos/syntax
errors/etc where I've helped colleagues track down insidious bugs
caused by errant keystrokes.
Yeah, I've
This discussion was on DW, not Spry, but I've got to stand up for it
here. I find Spry to be -very- nice to use, and pretty powerful. It
may not be jQuery, but for getting and displaying AJAX-based data on
page, no framework can beat it for simplicity (especially for folks
who may not have a lot
I've been using it, off and on, for about 3 months now. I was asked by
the DW team (well the ADC/DW people) to update some older DW/CF
articles, therefore, I had to use. I told them right out that I was a
DW Hater, but since this would help folks who were using CF, I agreed
to it.
Surprisingly,
My current TortoiseSVN version is 1.4.5... is that compatible with DW?
-Original Message-
From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:i...@turnkey.to]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
So, is it just TortoiseSVN that's
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
So, is it just TortoiseSVN that's not working with DW CS4?
I posted a longer answer to this a minute ago, but the thumbnail
synopsuis is that DW's SVN support is not current and that support for
the current format is not backward
Ray Camden said:
This discussion was on DW, not Spry, but I've got to stand up for it
here. I find Spry to be -very- nice to use, and pretty powerful. It
may not be jQuery, but for getting and displaying AJAX-based data on
page, no framework can beat it for simplicity (especially for folks
Great! I'm glad I hesitated updating TSVN every time it prompted me to!
-Original Message-
From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 5:01 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
yes
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008
Interesting. I'm replying on your blog. I can say from my experience
teaching Spry that most folks who aren't too familiar with JS or Ajax
find it quite easy to use. Personally I found Spry a heck of a lot
easier to learn than jQuery. Of course, not every style of development
will work for every
Great! I'm glad I hesitated updating TSVN every time it prompted me
to!
Lol... you know you can turn those off, right? :)
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isn't it time for a change?
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I wanted to update...it just always asked at the wrong time,
which turned out to be the right time... :o)
-Original Message-
From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:i...@turnkey.to]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:39 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE
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