Re: Quick Survey

2014-04-02 Thread John M Bliss
Results: http://imgur.com/eMzZkKP 6 - .NET 5 - PHP 5 - Ruby on Rails 4 - Python 4 - Groovy / Grails 3 - node.js 2 - AngularJS 1 - Java On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG One question, You've used CFML as your

RE: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J
, they can be twisted easily. Steve -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Quick Survey P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now people need not take survey. :-) This is just for people who're

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread John M Bliss
to stick with CF! While polls are good for information, they can be twisted easily. Steve -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Quick Survey P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now people

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Raymond Camden
: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Quick Survey P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now people need not take survey. :-) This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering, which one(s

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread John M Bliss
Subject: Re: Quick Survey P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now people need not take survey. :-) This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering, which one(s)? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Raymond Camden
! While polls are good for information, they can be twisted easily. Steve -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Quick Survey P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread John M Bliss
Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Quick Survey P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now people need not take survey. :-) This is just for people who're specifically learning

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Matt Quackenbush
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I'll blissfully assume that 2/3 - 3/4 of the people on this list are not going to take this survey because they're not moving away from CFML. That's the wrong assumption. It should be: I'll blissfully assume that

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread John M Bliss
:-) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I'll blissfully assume that 2/3 - 3/4 of the people on this list are not going to take this survey because they're not moving

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Roger Austin
Surveys are interesting, but caution must be used in looking at the results. A lot of the analysis on what to learn depends on the developer's background, location, industry, age, etc. For example, someone nearing retirement would look at it differently than a 30 year old person. Someone in

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread John M Bliss
Survey allows for picking multiple answers. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Roger Austin raust...@nc.rr.com wrote: Surveys are interesting, but caution must be used in looking at the results. A lot of the analysis on what to learn depends on the developer's background, location, industry,

RE: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Harrison
I'd love to stick with CF as I've used to it successfully to solve almost every client request that's ever been asked... and some of them have been very complex and convoluted. However, with Adobe's lack of support and marketing CF has become too hard of a sell... we're moving to PHP now.

RE: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Harrison
It wasn't - but the frustration wasn't towards you at all - just the general tiredness of it happening here so often. If others are like me they don't want to see CF die. For me, responding to these posts has always been in the hopes Adobe monitors this list and would hear the cries of

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Michael van Leest
@Robert Did you looked into Railo? If clients don't want to use Adobe Coldfusion due to the recent bad news, I've been recently able to sell Railo to them instead. 2014-03-26 13:40 GMT+01:00 Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com: I'd love to stick with CF as I've used to it successfully

RE: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Harrison
@Robert Did you looked into Railo? If clients don't want to use Adobe Coldfusion due to the recent bad news, I've been recently able to sell Railo to them instead. It's not recent bad news that caused this. It's been a long slow decline that Adobe has failed to address with any marketing

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Phillip Vector
To show how things can be twisted... poll does not count / quantify people who're choosing not to learn a new language at this time. So it doesn't count people who are giving up programing altogether. :) On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread John M Bliss
Correct. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.comwrote: To show how things can be twisted... poll does not count / quantify people who're choosing not to learn a new language at this time. So it doesn't count people who are giving up programing

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-26 Thread Bobby
*Throws keyboard in the air and gives Œprogramming¹ the finger while walking away* On 3/26/14, 9:20 AM, Phillip Vector vec...@mostdeadlygame.com wrote: To show how things can be twisted... poll does not count / quantify people who're choosing not to learn a new language at this time. So it

Quick Survey

2014-03-25 Thread John M Bliss
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG One question, You've used CFML as your primary source of income for one or more years. Now / soon you are learning / will learn which of the following because you believe it may be / become a better source of income? Please let me know if this survey (or

Re: Quick Survey

2014-03-25 Thread John M Bliss
P.S. None / sticking with CFML for now people need not take survey. :-) This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering, which one(s)? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com