Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 06:55 am, Kwang Suh wrote: I myself will be waiting for Mach II: Championship Edition. But it's already the best a man can get... -- Thomas C Advanced ColdFusion Programmer HANDLE WITH EXTREME CARE: This Email Contains Minute Electrically Charged Particles Moving at

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Jordan Thomas
Hi, We were using struts as a development methodology/framework. Really cool idea but overblown for most web apps. We are now back to CF and using a methodology from www.benorama.com It's nice, supports internationalisation, MVC, n-tier and it's a lot simpler than Struts which means that it's

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Stacy Young
-Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Interesting... looks a lot like Mach II (nee Fusebox MX). See http://www.mach-ii.com/ On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 15:01 US/Pacific

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Dave Watts
After diving deep into actionscript/flash development the past year I've come to understand the awesomeness of using listeners + event broadcasting in keeping a design flexible. That makes a lot of sense, in an event-driven environment like most GUIs provide. Web applications tend to be a

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Stacy Young
my head around this type of framework (coming from the cf world)... Stace -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? After diving deep into actionscript/flash

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Joe Eugene
. Joe Eugene - Original Message - From: Jordan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:38 AM Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Hi, We were using struts as a development methodology/framework. Really cool idea but overblown

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Ken Wilson
Dave Watts and I had been going back and forth on this framework question- of course he is a huge proponent of Fusebox in all its incarnations- Holy cow...was that the earth moving under my feet?!?! Did you say Dave Watts was a huge proponent of Fusebox? :) Since when? Ken

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Dave Watts and I had been going back and forth on this framework question- of course he is a huge proponent of Fusebox in all its incarnations- Holy cow...was that the earth moving under my feet?!?! Did you say Dave Watts was a huge proponent of Fusebox? :) Since when? Ken

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Marlon Moyer
OMG, he's been outed! Marlon Ken Wilson wrote: Dave Watts and I had been going back and forth on this framework question- of course he is a huge proponent of Fusebox in all its incarnations- Holy cow...was that the earth moving under my feet?!?! Did you say Dave Watts was a huge

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
Interesting... looks a lot like Mach II (nee Fusebox MX). See http://www.mach-ii.com/ Most good developers tend towards the same small set of generalized solutions to a given problem -- algorithms for math, design patterns for OO, etc. Doesn't surprise me at all :) Not to mention that since

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Andre Turrettini
Hi Joe, That sounds really interesting. Any way I can convince you to make a mini example that I could look at. DRE -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 20:37 US/Pacific, Joe Eugene wrote: Interesting.. didnt know Hal Helms and group were working on another Framework Project. They've just about finished Fusebox 4 (an evolution from Fusebox 3 but a fairly radical one in my opinion) and Mach II is now in beta - note

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 21:40 US/Pacific, Kwang Suh wrote: Mach II == Fusebox MX. Not entirely. Fusebox MX still had circuits and fuseactions - it was halfway house between the procedural Fusebox of old and the shiny new OO MVC behind Mach II. They really are quite different beasts (even

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Hastings
You should look at Mach II. It's less complex than Struts and it's a nice clean CF implementation of MVC. how does it compare with benorama's MVC? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Joe Eugene
of others in the community and work out any issues. Joe Eugene - Original Message - From: Andre Turrettini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Hi Joe, That sounds really interesting. Any way

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Joe Eugene
: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 20:37 US/Pacific, Joe Eugene wrote: Interesting.. didnt know Hal Helms and group were working on another Framework Project. They've just about finished Fusebox 4 (an evolution from

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-15 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003, at 09:49 US/Pacific, Paul Hastings wrote: You should look at Mach II. It's less complex than Struts and it's a nice clean CF implementation of MVC. how does it compare with benorama's MVC? I'd say the main difference is: Mach II is a framework; MVCF is more a

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
Having done a couple Struts projects, you need a couple of good Java folks to help wade through implementing Struts. I'd look at Fusebox (3 or 4, not MX nee Mach-II) if you're looking for a plug and play framework *for ColdFusion*. Struts has many more built in features (eg the validator) but is a

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Reilly, James
, but the directions for the Simple Struts App is lacking. Tkx, Jim -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Having done a couple Struts projects, you need

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
, Jim -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Having done a couple Struts projects, you need a couple of good Java folks to help wade through

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Joe Eugene
I have used alot of Concepts from Jakarta Structs as MVC for recent application. It worked very well, with a very high level of code management. Begining with file structure index.cfm is the only exposed page of the applicaiton. application.xml for application level control/instantiation

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Sean A Corfield
Interesting... looks a lot like Mach II (nee Fusebox MX). See http://www.mach-ii.com/ On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 15:01 US/Pacific, Joe Eugene wrote: I have used alot of Concepts from Jakarta Structs as MVC for recent application. It worked very well, with a very high level of code

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Joe Eugene
-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Interesting... looks a lot like Mach II (nee Fusebox MX). See http://www.mach-ii.com/ On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 15:01 US/Pacific, Joe Eugene wrote: I have used alot of Concepts from Jakarta Structs as MVC for recent application

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Joe Eugene
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Here is an article on using Struts with in CFMX: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/struts.html Yeah, I've seen that. CFCs as a model instead of JavaBeans

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Kwang Suh
Mach II == Fusebox MX. - Original Message - From: Joe Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? http://www.mach-ii.com/ Interesting.. didnt know Hal Helms and group were working

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Joe Eugene
Mach II == Fusebox MX. Any reason why they renamed Fusebox MX to Mach II? Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Mach II == Fusebox MX

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Kwang Suh
They decided that it's too far from the current Fusebox architecture, so they rebranded it. - Original Message - From: Joe Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Mach II == Fusebox

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Chris Kief
-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Mach II == Fusebox MX. Any reason why they renamed Fusebox MX to Mach II? Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone using

RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? Mach

Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

2003-07-14 Thread Kwang Suh
I myself will be waiting for Mach II: Championship Edition. - Original Message - From: Mike Brunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 11:19 PM Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx? I think to differentiate it from Fusebox 4