ColdFusion is available in 2 flavours :
ColdFusion Server Professional &
ColdFusion Server Enterprise
ColdFusion Enterprise is the largest/boldest of the family and has the
most features. There IS a 30 day trial download of this product from
the site which after 30 days expire it will turn in
: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
And you would think that Allaire/Macromedia would have something of the sort posted on
their website, but I could not find anything there
Rob
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On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 07:54 AM, Dave Watts wrote:
>
> There are lots of free CGI engines, in addition to ASP, which isn't
> really
> "free" anyway - you have to buy Windows!
>
Neither are the 3rd-party ASP add-ons free... those that give ASP
capabilities that are built-in to CF!
Dick
lk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Well there has always been a CF Enterprise, but MM listens to us on the
group and when we whined and said there wasn't anything free for us to
develop in they offered us a development version of CF Enterprise. It allows
you to use CF Enter
nice day!
>
> Marianne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
>
>
> 1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a
h less tags supported. so if
>you are not using the full tag list then this may be your bag
>
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>From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 04 April 2002 16:46
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
>
>
>You
Yup I am.I meant to say CF Express!.good spot J - deliberate mistake
you understand!
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From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I think you're confusing your En
ssage-
From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags suppor
I would imagine you could do this if your employees licensed their own
copies, but then who knows.
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
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I know ab
wings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 16:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license. CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags supported. so if
you are not u
, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Pardon me! I hadn't heard of CF Enterprise. Hence the question "Does CF
have an equivalent?". If I ever get to code in CF again I'll
> I don't know what it is you don't get, but as a part-time
> telecommuter, I prefer not to have to rely on a remote server
> while developing.
So do I. Fortunately, I can do that with CF just as easily as with ASP. Both
work through IIS, and CF can use other web servers as well, such as Apac
April 2002 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
You can use CF Express, but it is a little limiting, but CF5 is free as
a 1 connection developmental server that you can install at home and
use, but only allowed 1 connection, which would be yourself. Well, I
gues
He is taliking about the Developers version...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to
CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it come
on the CD in the back of the Forta book?
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Sent: 04 April 2002 16:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF
ever visits it, lol
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF
Express?
Anthony Petru
Or ya can download it :)
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From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it
come
on the C
This is great! So do you have to use that in conjunction with CF Enterprise
as Robert mentioned?
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From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
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CF equivalent to PWS is
No - you can get a one single licence of CF server - in fact doesn't it come
on the CD in the back of the Forta book?
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Sent: 04 April 2002 16:34
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:15 AM
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1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
1. PWS? What I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's
me,
> whether you like them or not, and it doesn't hurt to know how to user their
> technology.
>
> Marianne Daye
> Programmer/Analyst
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
don't understand some of the issues you brought up here. Please explain
better.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire
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From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP &
es you brought up here. Please explain
better.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire
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From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I ha
't hurt to know how to user their
technology.
Marianne Daye
Programmer/Analyst
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From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, D
There is also X-Platorm issues with ASP. Also, with MM and Allaire
merging and with Flash MX etc.. jeez we have an exciting time ahead.
N
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At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, David Schmidt wrote:
>If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training. Grab hold, hang on, and
>take what you can learn.
A cold hearted approach (but I think wise) would be to get the training
paid for, and then move to a company that is more reasonable.
T
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of
CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait
ay, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
>
> gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
>
> Anthony Petruzzi
> Webmaster
> 954-321-4703
> http://www.sheriff.org
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: R
If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training. Grab hold, hang on, and
take what you can learn.
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Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more
resources for the community. http://www.
>
> Remeber, coders survive on being able to code. Managers survive on
> making good business decisions. You may well see a new manager in the
> not so distant future.
Yep, and then he'll be able to learn yet another language, thus broadening
his skill set, and increasing his market worth. :)
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Honestly,
If he's willing to pay you to cross train in ASP, why complain? I'm
assuming that you have already written a score of reports and tools that
will all need to be tr
have a lot to learn, at least he bought me some books,
lol
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Have you pointed out the rapid development nature of
No arguments really, just close minded
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From: Neil Giarratana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As o
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> Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
>
> gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
>
> Anthony Petruzzi
> Webmaster
> 954-321-4703
> http://www.sheriff.org
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PR
Mandate, that and a disillusioned view of ASP
Rob
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From: Greg Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
here is an article from pcmagazine comparing a slew of
alk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
> I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As one of them, I
> can tell you that life does not have to be that hard. Does he have
only matters when I am home alone
Rob
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Gasp, sputter, cough.
Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever!
Nothing is better t
.9860 x110
503.221.9865
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that,
we use PHP here as
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of
CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)
Bryan Stevens
Here is a good URL that I came across:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/46/index1a.html?tw=programming
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
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G
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From: "Robert Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:36 AM
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> But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Gasp, sputter, cough.
Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever!
Nothing is better than perl.
My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl (
y, April 03, 2002 2:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not
staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that
seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better th
they are
currently using CF. Have they not seen the NEO faq? Or is this one of
those "mandate" thingys?
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Yeah
ng is better then PERL
anyways, heh
I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married
with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette
Rob
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM
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Subject: R
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
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and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF
comingall that can be
said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool
;-)
Bryan Steven
Forgot the link:
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2646052,00.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
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The only problem
5.0 higher marks, since it has better performace.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM
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The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot
om: "Robert Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
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> Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
> really like the inf
age-
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
t
Married
with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being
The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot
"Robert Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM
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> Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
> really like the inform
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
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Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would
really like the information to share with my current employer who wants
to move from CF to ASP and get
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM
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gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.
actually let me take the first crack at this. if noone minds
Can you say ADO
Anthony Petruzzi
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954-321-4703
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Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:59 PM
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gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines
Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org
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From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF VS ASP
OK, I have been looking for some things on
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