Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-21 Thread s. isaac dealey
> With databases that use a locking approach to concurrency (DB2, MS > SQL Server, Sybase) you will not have the problem because multiple > occurences of this query will be serialized. With databases that use > multiversioning (Oracle, PostgreSQL and MS SQL Server with snapshot > isolation) this qu

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-21 Thread s. isaac dealey
> Thanks Jochem, good to know :) > > Good job to isaac pointing out the need for IsNull doing it this way too ;) tnx p.s. I never know how to handle complements. :P -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 503.236.3691 http://onTap.riaforge.org

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-21 Thread Dominic Watson
> > I haven't tested your statements, but extrapolating from the basics of > the concurrency control algorithms used by different databases I think > that is not correct. Thanks Jochem, good to know :) Good job to isaac pointing out the need for IsNull doing it this way too ;) Dominic ~~~

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-21 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Dominic Watson wrote: > Is that definately true with the select insert as I exampled? I imagine (but > that is all I do, quite willing to be wrong) that the single SQL statement > must complete before another is allowed to run..? I.e. I imagine that this > SQL will not run into the problem you desc

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread s. isaac dealey
> > > Beware of doing it this way... You will need cftransaction or some > other > way of ensuring that the ID is unique. Consider the situation > where 2 > inserts from 2 different people are happening nearly > simultaneously. The > second request for the max(ID) could occur > before the first is

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread s. isaac dealey
> The database does support autonumber, but this is a legacy app and > database. Also, there are many times where autonumber isn't useful > because when you delete a record, the database re-numbers everything > changing the ID which we didn't want. Oh I misread that the first time... I thought you

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread s. isaac dealey
> > declare @newid int > > select @newid = max(id) from Members > > if @newid is null Oddly enough that's actually more complicated than is necessary if you're using SQL Server -- i.e. insert into members (memberid,x,y,z) values ( (select 1+isnull(max(memberid),0

RE: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Mark Kruger
007 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic ID's > > Beware of doing it this way... You will need cftransaction or some > other way of ensuring that the ID is unique. Consider the situation > where 2 inserts from 2 different people are happening nearly > simultaneously. The s

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Dominic Watson
> > Beware of doing it this way... You will need cftransaction or some other > way of ensuring that the ID is unique. Consider the situation where 2 > inserts from 2 different people are happening nearly simultaneously. The > second request for the max(ID) could occur before the first is > inserted

RE: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Mark Kruger
CF-Talk Subject: RE: Dynamic ID's The database does support autonumber, but this is a legacy app and database. Also, there are many times where autonumber isn't useful because when you delete a record, the database re-numbers everything changing the ID which we didn't want. Rick San

RE: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Mark Kruger
-Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic ID's I'd let the database create the number. But anyway, you can do it like this: SELECT max(tableID) as Lastnumber from tablename

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Dominic Watson
> > Yup, this is a unique situation, it's a new application on top of an old > database built in Pervasive SQL. The Primary key holds ID numbers that > aren't auto generated. I think I see the situation and you're approach is valid but long winded ;). You can insert a record with a new ID with on

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>The database does support autonumber, What database is it? >>there are many times where autonumber isn't useful because when you delete a record, the database re-numbers everything Really? I've never seen such a database that re-numbers auto numbers. --

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Dominic Watson
Or, if you really need to do it the way you describe, the SQL could look like this: -- SELECT A NEW ID SELECT Max(idField) + 1 FROM myTable But yeh, if you can set an auto id in the db I'd go with that. Dominic On 20/12/2007, JediHomer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about an Identity field

RE: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Rick Sanders
ssage- From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December-20-07 10:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic ID's If you need an absolute unique id that isn't tied to a database, feel free to use the createUUID() function. Otherwise, what you're asking for can be done via SQL

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread JediHomer
How about an Identity field (in MS SQL) Or alternatively CreateUUID() ? On 20/12/2007, Rick Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > > > I've done dynamic ID's before in .net and xml. I can't seem to figure out > how to do it in CF. Here's what I want to do: > > > > - Query

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Mike Kear
I'd let the database create the number. But anyway, you can do it like this: SELECT max(tableID) as Lastnumber from tablename I have functions where i do this, but generally you'd be best to let the databaes do it for you. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced Co

RE: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Rick Sanders
1-7689 USA: 919-799-9076 Canada: www.webenergy.ca USA: www.webenergyusa.com -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December-20-07 10:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dynamic ID's Your db platform doesn't support autonumber? Steve &

RE: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Adkins, Randy
I know of someone who uses a Sequence table for the ID functions: Sequence table: table_name (varchar) last_sequence (int) next_sequence (int) Query the table based on table name get the next_sequence and then update The sequence table after the insert -Original Message- From: Rick San

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
declare @newid int select @newid = max(id) from Members if @newid is null begin set @newid=1 end else begin set @[EMAIL PROTECTED] end INSERT INTO Members ... On 12/20/07 9:23

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
Your db platform doesn't support autonumber? Steve "Cutter" Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Rick Sanders wrote: > Hello list, > > > > I've done dynamic ID's before in .net and xml.

RE: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Robert Harrison
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Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Todd
If you need an absolute unique id that isn't tied to a database, feel free to use the createUUID() function. Otherwise, what you're asking for can be done via SQL... so... not sure why this is overcomplicated. Do you have a unique situation? care to explain? On Dec 20, 2007 9:23 AM, Rick Sanders

Re: Dynamic ID's

2007-12-20 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>If someone has a better idea for a unique ID, I'm open to suggestions. Well, if the id is for records in a table, how about using an auto counter field? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Pleas