Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Sean Corfield
On 5/5/07, Eric J. Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to add to the hornet's nestwell, okay maybe, but back to the issues we deal with in perceptions with CF. This time not price, just a pure lack of focus on what the CF platform can do from a review of a site that moved from a mixed

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Subject: Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week On 5/5/07, Eric J. Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to add to the hornet's nestwell, okay maybe, but back to the issues we deal with in perceptions with CF. This time not price, just a pure lack of focus on what the CF platform can do from

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
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Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Aaron Roberson
. -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week On 5/5/07, Eric J. Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to add to the hornet's nestwell, okay maybe

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Dave Watts
The article singles out TripHomes mostly for the reliance on MS tech that has caused problems. What they want is to move away from MS tech. It's unfortunate they mention CF is somewhat unflattering terms but most of the criticism is (rightly) aimed at MS tech. I strongly suspect that

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Kevin Aebig
over 75% don't ... !k -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week The article singles out TripHomes mostly for the reliance on MS tech that has caused problems. What

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Dave Watts
I've been waiting for someone to hold the developers accountable. Whether Win or Lin, Java to .NET to whatever, its up to the developers to properly use the tools correctly. That's the problem with a lot of these IT trade rags' articles. I can't count the number of times I've read an IT

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Russ
-Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week I've been waiting for someone to hold the developers accountable. Whether Win or Lin, Java to .NET to whatever, its

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Kevin Aebig
I wish bad developers were that honest... I always tell my clients, Cheap, Good or Fast... For software development you only get to choose 2. !k -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Lack of CF

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-09 Thread Ray Champagne
I'd choose cheap and good, given those three options. :) -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week I wish bad developers were that honest... I always tell my clients

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Adrian
Google triphomes homeaway (dont want to post a link to this junk), go to the article, click on discuss, search for coldfusion, note that the next page says: Your search for confusion found ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Yves Arsenault
I wrote the author an email... Tried to point out (in a short, nice way) that the technical statements about ColdFusion were completely false. - Yves - On 5/8/07, Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google triphomes homeaway (dont want to post a link to this junk), go to the article, click on

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Sunday 06 May 2007, Eric J. Hoffman wrote: Triphomes originally was built using Cold Fusion, a web site development tool that runs on (I am sure he meant to inject only here) on Windows, and depends on Microsoft's Internet Information Server and SQL Server Database. Just as with its other

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yeah but that is their app not CF itself. -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2007 12:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week On Sunday 06 May 2007, Eric J. Hoffman wrote: Triphomes originally was built using Cold Fusion

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Rick Root
I also wrote to the author of the article, and he responded, asking for permission to publish my response as a Letter to the Editor... which I granted. Rick ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Yves Arsenault
Awesome Rick. ;-) Yves On 5/8/07, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also wrote to the author of the article, and he responded, asking for permission to publish my response as a Letter to the Editor... which I granted. Rick

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Great stuff Rick, I look forward to reading it, Once it's up for all to see be sure to post a link. Rob -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2007 13:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week I also wrote to the author

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Rick Root
Here's the letter I wrote Mr. Babcock, Your recent article Restore Backbone To Brittle Sites seems to imply that Coldfusion only runs on Windows, IIS, and SQL Server: TripHomes originally was built using ColdFusion, a Web site development tool that runs on Windows and

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Yves Arsenault
Well put Rick. Yves On 5/8/07, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the letter I wrote Mr. Babcock, Your recent article Restore Backbone To Brittle Sites seems to imply that Coldfusion only runs on Windows, IIS, and SQL Server: TripHomes originally was built

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Billy Cox
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week Here's the letter I wrote Mr. Babcock, Your recent article Restore Backbone To Brittle Sites seems to imply that Coldfusion only runs on Windows, IIS

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Yeah but that is their app not CF itself. I read it as: Triphomes originally was built using Cold Fusion, ColdFusion is a web site development tool that runs on on Windows and other places , and (but) Triphomes

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Kevin Aebig
Fiberglass no wait... Altima... ugh, I'm I can't decide. !k -Original Message- From: Billy Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week Rick, I can offer this insight. A couple of years ago

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Will Swain
was charging them £900 a day for his 'expertise' -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2007 17:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week Fiberglass no wait... Altima... ugh, I'm I can't decide. !k -Original Message- From

RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Damien McKenna
-Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week I had an IT consultant tell me, in a meeting with our mutual client, that ColdFusion was built on ASP. Remarkable, and to think he

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-08 Thread Yves Arsenault
a dog with a bone. Remarkable, and to think he was charging them £900 a day for his 'expertise' -Original Message- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2007 17:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week Fiberglass no wait... Altima

Re: Lack of CF understanding: Info Week

2007-05-06 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
It just shows a lack of technical and business saavy it no doubt reeks of business idiots absorbed by aquusitions who think windows is actually the Internet. CFML (I note CFML as you have Bluedragon) is a more than cabable technology when deployed correctly. To move from Java to .NET back to