RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-14 Thread Peterson, Chris
To chime in on this: I don't believe you would need to purchase multiple copies of CF for virtualized servers, only one per *physical* server, with up to 2 max CPU's. Since the license for CF is for 1-2 CPU's, running it on an unlimited number of VM's residing on a single physical server (dual C

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-14 Thread Peterson, Chris
--- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server Cluster Nathan Strutz wrote: > Contrary to some of the other opinions in this thread, I think that getting > windows in multiple VMs is a better way to go than getting CF

Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-13 Thread Nathan Strutz
Jochem, The PDF example is great. I'm not against CF Enterprise whatsoever, it's the best way to go, and I do whatever I can to look for reasons to recommend it for things like that. I just think it's over-prescribed and often misunderstood. > Now back to stability, if one JVM crashes on one ser

Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Nathan Strutz wrote: > Contrary to some of the other opinions in this thread, I think that getting > windows in multiple VMs is a better way to go than getting CF on multiple > JVMs, and I have a fair amount of experience to back that up. Depends on the purpose. Let me counter by complementing you

Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-13 Thread Nathan Strutz
Contrary to some of the other opinions in this thread, I think that getting windows in multiple VMs is a better way to go than getting CF on multiple JVMs, and I have a fair amount of experience to back that up. First off, licensing - windows 2003 web edition costs around $500 last I checked, thou

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-12 Thread Dave Watts
> One limitation on the number of jrun instances on windows is > the maximum limitation in jre of 1gb memory (from memory this > is the limit - could be more perhaps) allocation to Java. So > if each take 250mb of ram, then you are limited at 4 instances. That limit is per-instance. Each instan

Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-12 Thread Duncan
I have been through several set ups recently, the latest is 2 physical servers with a cisco pix load balancer with no sticky sessions. we then run 2 jrun instances for the production app on each box. Provides great stability. One limitation on the number of jrun instances on windows is the maximum

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-12 Thread Russ
> -Original Message- > From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:51 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Server Cluster > > > Actually, you can't just use the same copy of Windows Server in multiple > > virtual machines. Mi

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
e is up or down. Other than that, it is just round robin variants. You have to go to hard ware balancing to get granular control over that other stuff. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Server

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
al Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server Cluster so would you recomend one server with multiple jrun instances or multiple virtual servers with o

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Server Cluster so would you recomend one server with multiple jrun instances or multiple virtual servers with o

Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread James Smith
> Actually, you can't just use the same copy of Windows Server in multiple > virtual machines. Microsoft has a VM licensing calendar here: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/calculator.msp > x Good catch, I would have missed that. > As for CF, though, it's licensed pe

Re: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread James Smith
so would you recomend one server with multiple jrun instances or multiple virtual servers with one on each? On 11/06/07, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To answer one of your many questions. You will need CF Enterprise. Once > you have obtained the appropriate license for each physical s

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Dave Watts
> I am thinking of setting up a virtual cluster to run our > website for reliability reasons. Does anyone have any good > documentation (preferably in a PDF or other offline readable > format) in the form of a beginners guide to CF clusters? There's plenty of stuff in the documentation itself,

RE: Server Cluster

2007-06-11 Thread Brad Wood
To answer one of your many questions. You will need CF Enterprise. Once you have obtained the appropriate license for each physical server (and all their processors) you can add as many CF instances as you want. Each of them belonging to one big cluster or several smaller clusters. You name it-- t