RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Adam Wayne Lehman
Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Haggerty, Mike
It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Adam Wayne Lehman
Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Lighten up, it's Friday. Peter

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread David Collie (itndac)
bastards (no one in particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. Adam Wayne Lehman It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky

Re: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Doug White
: RED SKY BETA | Lighten up, it's Friday. | | Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in | particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. | | Adam Wayne Lehman | Web Systems Developer | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health | Distance Education

Re: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Dana Tierney
are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Adam Wayne Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA | Lighten up, it's Friday. | | Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Adam Wayne Lehman
Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Lighten

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Adam Wayne Lehman
-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-13 Thread Adam Wayne Lehman
To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA

RED SKY BETA

2003-06-12 Thread Damon Cooper
We need your help to really put the CF RED SKY release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF

Re: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-12 Thread Matt Robertson
Damon, That signup url gives me a 404. I signed up yesterday. Hoping to hear back :D --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- Original Message

RED SKY BETA (CORRECT URL)

2003-06-12 Thread Damon Cooper
Sorry about thattooo many MMM's. Click here: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmxbeta -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:55 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF RED SKY release through its

RE: RED SKY BETA

2003-06-12 Thread Barney Boisvert
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RED SKY BETA Damon, That signup url gives me a 404. I signed up yesterday. Hoping to hear back :D --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
you supposed to be posting here? -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 23:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at the usual place. Happy testing. == Peter

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Philip Arnold
For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at the usual place. Happy testing. The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... From official sources! If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at the usual place. Happy testing. The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... From official sources! If you're on the Beta, you signed

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Philip Arnold
I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta find out if beta 2 is released. You mean people signed NDA's for nothing? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription:

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Mike Chambers
Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Lee Fuller
| To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. | | mike chambers | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | - Original Message - | From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Russ
Yeah, and the rest of us who *want* to get on the Betas (again) have difficulty. How's that screening process work again? ;-) -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released I

RE: Red Sky Beta 2

2003-06-10 Thread Che Vilnonis
Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? I've been away for a while...and I am clueless. ~CV -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released Well, we prefer that people

RE: Red Sky Beta 2

2003-06-10 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Its a shepherds delight if it happens at night -Original Message- From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2003 16:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Red Sky Beta 2 Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? I've been away for a while...and I am clueless. ~CV

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Philip Arnold
Yeah, and the rest of us who *want* to get on the Betas (again) have difficulty. How's that screening process work again? ;-) Simple, idiots who break it by announcing things on lists like this are black-listed g It's called NON-DISCLOSURE for a reason g

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 11:46 AM, Lee Fuller wrote: I think it's amazing that people with NDA's simply announce beta info on open lists. Kinda against the purpose of an NON DISCLOSURE agreement -- isn't it? It is best to always err on the side of caution and only post information

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread David K
- Original Message - From: Tilbrook, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:46 PM Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at the usual place

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Michael Tangorre
nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. - Original Message - From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 11:46 AM, Lee Fuller wrote: I

Re: Red Sky Beta 2

2003-06-10 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Che Vilnonis wrote: Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? I've been away for a while...and I am clueless. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ This is the official information. Everything else should be regarded as gossip and would best be

Re: Red Sky Beta 2

2003-06-10 Thread Taz
Its a shepherds delight if it happens at night Yeah, Shepherd's don't get much. The sheep keep running away when they hear the sound of a zip. Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Bryan Stevenson
AM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released MM recently announced that they were opening up the RedSky beta program to new testers. I have applied but heard nothing. I'm assuming that this will be another case where MM will only contact successful applicants. Has anyone else here who applied

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Mike Kear
It's ok to say WHAT Red Sky is, because Macromedia have it on the web site. There's an overview at http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ Red Sky is the next update to CFMX. And what we know from events happening here in the last few days, and the statements of

Re: Red Sky Beta 2

2003-06-10 Thread Doug White
== If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky Beta 2 | Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? | I've been

Beta signup form? WAS: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Matt Robertson
Can someone point me to the beta signup form? Is it the standard-issue MM beta form? Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com

Re: Beta signup form? WAS: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Howie Hamlin
? WAS: Red Sky beta 2 released Can someone point me to the beta signup form? Is it the standard-issue MM beta form? Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com

RE: Beta signup form? WAS: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Matt Robertson
Thx! --Matt-- -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Beta signup form? WAS: Red Sky beta 2 released http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmxbeta HTH, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Philip Arnold
nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second thought is just wishing for problems They put the NDA there for a reason - because the information is for NON DISCLOSURE! Admittedly using the word idiot is a little strong, but

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Dave Lyons
hum.. who's more of an idiot? The idiot or the one who calls the idiot an idiot? - Original Message - From: Philip Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released Yeah, and the rest of us who

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Michael Tangorre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second thought is just wishing for problems They put the NDA

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Nick McClure
Sky beta 2 released nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second thought is just wishing for problems They put the NDA there for a reason - because the information is for NON DISCLOSURE! Admittedly using the word

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Bryan Stevenson
- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Christian Cantrell
ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: David K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released MM recently announced that they were opening up the RedSky

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Bryan Stevenson
- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2

Re: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Doug White
, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released | We haven't sent out responses to everyone yet, but you should hear | something by tomorrow

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Cantrell, Adam
recognition ;P Adam. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released OK...why doesn't everybody call the mothers of the folks that said Red Sky on this list and get it over

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Lee Fuller
PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:14 AM | Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | Also, Just because MM talks about it, that doesn't mean you | are still | not under NDA. | | The NDA is there to protect MM, the products, and the consumers. | | -Original Message

RE: Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-10 Thread Tilbrook, Peter
Strewth, all I stated was the beta 2 was available. ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of the addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you

Red Sky beta 2 released

2003-06-09 Thread Tilbrook, Peter
For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at the usual place. Happy testing. == Peter Tilbrook Internet Applications Developer Australian Building Codes Board GPO Box 9839 CANBERRA ACT 2601 AUSTRALIA WWW: http://www.abcb.gov.au/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]