Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-22 Thread Scott Brady
Right. I was talking about why _I_ generally don't like cfscript. But, honestly, if they don't really know how to do anything in javascript, then I'm not sure what they're doing writing CFML (or any web application development language). Scott On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Aaron Rouse

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-22 Thread Aaron Rouse
You might be surprised at how many people I come across in the industry who are making a good solid living writing CF apps but barely can write CSS, HTML, JavaScript and really even much in regards to SQL. Quite often though they are using some sort of CF framework or other core tool that a more

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Scott Brady
As of CF9, the vast majority of CF can be written in script, if you desire. Almost every tag has a cfscript equivalent (I believe there were a few that didn't make the cut, but I can't recall which ones off-hand). Of course, some things are a bit more tedious doing them in script (such as

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
Agreed and someone could always write themselves some custom functions as wrappers to CF tags for prior versions CF or perhaps even what is missing in the current. To a point at least. I have been a CFScript Nazi for well over a decade now but fully recognize a place for it and a place for when

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robert Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: I do wish Adobe would fill out CF so that one could write mostly in cfscript and avoid cf tags altogether, if desired. It would also help when I end up around small-minded coders who scoff at CF merely because of the

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
I have worked with CF developers who scoff at any CFScript usage but for reasons most would not assume. They did it because they flat out did not understand the syntax and I am not referring to some abundant overuse of CFScript here. It can sometimes be a balancing act of coding how you want

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Steve 'Cutter' Blades
You mean I should write a book on CFScript? Fantastic? Betascript Publishing hhhm... Anyone notice the tagline states: ColdFusion Markup Language, JavaScript, BlogCFC Now THAT is interesting... Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Carl Von Stetten
Yeah, or how about the red seal on the cover that says High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles!? LOL :-D On 2/21/2012 11:04 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades wrote: You mean I should write a book on CFScript? Fantastic? Betascript Publishing hhhm... Anyone notice the tagline states:

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Billy Cravens
This publisher releases something like 10,000+ titles a year: they scrape Wikipedia content and sell it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDM_Publishing Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Carl Von Stetten wrote: Yeah, or how about the red seal on the cover that

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Scott Brady
My main issue with cfscript is that it's easy to confuse at first glance between that and javascript (for cases when you have JS mixed in with CF code, as the legacy app I work on at work has). So, it's not really cfscript's fault as much as a personal bugaboo. Scott On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Russ Michaels
cfscript to many defeats the who point of why they chose cf in the first place, because it was a html like easy to learn tag based language. When you go down the route of doing all your code in script, using OOP style coding, then surely you would just be better off writing directly in JAVA ?

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread James Holmes
Well, nobody's better off writing in Java, but C# would be an alternative. On Wednesday, February 22, 2012, Russ Michaels wrote: cfscript to many defeats the who point of why they chose cf in the first place, because it was a html like easy to learn tag based language. When you go down the

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
The people I was referring to I am certain do not know how to write anything or much of anything in JavaScript. So it is not a matter of CFScript confusing them into thinking it is JavaScript. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote: My main issue with cfscript

CFScript Book

2012-02-20 Thread Robert Rhodes
Hello to all. Are there any CFScript books out there? I ordered this onw but it was a complete joke. A total waste of money: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cfscript-lambert-m-surhone/1026883099. All suggestions welcome. -RR

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-20 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Robert Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any CFScript books out there? I ordered this onw but it was a complete joke. A total waste of money: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cfscript-lambert-m-surhone/1026883099. Is there a reason you want to

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-20 Thread Pete Freitag
For what its worth I have a cfscript cheatsheet here: http://www.petefreitag.com/cheatsheets/coldfusion/cfscript/ It lists much but certainly not all of what you need to know to use cfscript. Feedback, suggestions welcome. -- Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional http://foundeo.com/ -

Re: CFScript Book

2012-02-20 Thread Robert Rhodes
Hi Cameron. I know CF very well. I been coding in it for many years. But, I admit, I am a little tagged out. Cfscript feels more elegant, and as I learn more and more javascript, it seems a natural time to try to get completely up to speed on cfscript. I do wish Adobe would fill out CF so

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-13 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: RE: cfscript book now I am asking all of these questions, is cfscript really that good to use? or could I go all day long using cftags and never see much performance difference ..tony

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-13 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Subject: Re: cfscript book Just becareful with mimicing cfinclude. I would hestitate to say that cfscript block would bring you any performance gains under CFMX due to the compiling. Do your own speed test: test.cfm: cfset begin = getTickCount() cfset finalIndx = 0 cfloop index=indx from=1 to=100

cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
does anyone have a good cfscript book to recommend? thanks! ..tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 ~| Archives: http

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread samcfug
12, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: cfscript book | does anyone have a good cfscript book to recommend? | | thanks! | | ..tony | | Tony Weeg | Senior Web Developer | Information System Design | Navtrak, Inc. | Fleet Management Solutions | www.navtrak.net | 410.548.2337

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
http://www.houseoffusion.com/docs/cfscript.htm does anyone have a good cfscript book to recommend? thanks! ..tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
http://www.houseoffusion.com/docs/cfscript.htm does anyone have a good cfscript book to recommend? thanks! ..tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Chris Kief
, continue/break, etc. chris kief -Original Message- From: samcfug [mailto:doug;samcfug.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book http://www.fusionscript.com = Douglas White group Manager mailto:doug

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript book I believe Tony was referring to part of the ColdFusion language (cfscript). As far as a good book goes, about the only thing I've read lately with decent cfscript coverage is Ben Forta's advanced CFMX app. dev. book. The book touches on the use of variables

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Jeffry Houser
= - Original Message - From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: cfscript book | does anyone have a good cfscript book to recommend? | | thanks! | | ..tony | | Tony Weeg | Senior Web Developer

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:002e01c28a80$f2816b10$ba0b0a0a;navtrak267... so, the question remains, is there one that really goes in depth with cfscript? Nothing that goes up to the level I would love to see :-( A few advanced books on CF MX still have to hit the shelves,

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Ben Forta
: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:002e01c28a80$f2816b10$ba0b0a0a;navtrak267... so, the question remains, is there one that really goes in depth with cfscript? Nothing that goes up to the level I would love

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
: RE: cfscript book I hate to put it this bluntly, but there really is not that much to say about CFSCRIPT. And aside from UDFs (added in CF5 and surpassed by the tag interface in CFMX) and basic try/catch (added in CFMX but less powerful than the equivalent tags) CFSCRIPT has really not changed

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
What does Fusionscript have to do with cfscript? As near as I can tell there are no relation. I doubt you'll find a book dedicated to cfscript. I'd recommend my CF5 Beginner's book. The chapter on CFScript covers all you need to know, and you won't be able to beat the price with

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread charlie griefer
;massimocorner.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:002e01c28a80$f2816b10$ba0b0a0a;navtrak267... so, the question remains, is there one that really goes in depth with cfscript? Nothing

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
--- Ben -Original Message- From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:massimo;massimocorner.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:002e01c28a80$f2816b10$ba0b0a0a;navtrak267

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
[mailto:massimo;massimocorner.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:002e01c28a80$f2816b10$ba0b0a0a;navtrak267... so, the question remains, is there one that really goes in depth with cfscript

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Rob Rohan
, [,sort_order]) would be much more helpful and clear in the quick reference. :) rob -Original Message- From: charlie griefer [mailto:charlie;griefer.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Ben Forta writes: I hate to put it this bluntly

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdinowit;houseoffusion.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Email me off list with what you want added to this doc and you'll have your 10 minute reference. http://www.houseoffusion.com

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Larry Juncker
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Email me off list with what you want added to this doc and you'll have your 10 minute reference. http://www.houseoffusion.com/docs/cfscript.htm I know I need to put in the UDF portion (separate file now) and update it to CFMX. What else would you like? Email me

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread todd
-Original Message- From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:massimo;massimocorner.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:002e01c28a80$f2816b10$ba0b0a0a;navtrak267... so

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Raymond Camden
] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob;cardinalweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript book Speaking

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread charlie griefer
griefer wrote: *i'd* shell out $9.95 for the cfscript pocket reference :) charlie --- Ben -Original Message- From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:massimo;massimocorner.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Rick Faircloth
? Rick Rick Faircloth, Prism Productions -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info;turnkey.to] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book What does Fusionscript have to do with cfscript? As near as I can tell there are no relation

Re: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Jeffry Houser
PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:002e01c28a80$f2816b10$ba0b0a0a;navtrak267... so, the question remains, is there one that really goes in depth with cfscript? Nothing that goes up to the level I would love to see

cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Fitch, Tyler
: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript book now I am asking all of these questions, is cfscript really that good to use? or could I go all day long using cftags and never see much performance difference .tony Tony Weeg Senior Web Developer Information System

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Ben Forta
CFCHARTDATA ITEM=#CurrentRow# VALUE=#cfscript# /CFOUTPUT /CFCHARTSERIES /CFCHART -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:tony;navtrak.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript book now I am asking all of these questions, is cfscript

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
Design Navtrak, Inc. Fleet Management Solutions www.navtrak.net 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Fitch, Tyler [mailto:tfitch;isitedesign.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) Tony, Pre CFMX using a block

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Ben Forta
, November 12, 2002 4:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) it certainly helpsthanks for the infoalthough I am sure there will be a flood of opinions on this, so that's really why I started the thread should any of us who don't already know, bother learning

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread Matthew Walker
now I am asking all of these questions, is cfscript really that good to use? or could I go all day long using cftags and never see much performance difference The only reason I sometimes use cfscript is that in certain situations it is a lot easier to read IMO. Those situations are

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Ben Doom
. :-) --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: Tony Weeg [mailto:tony;navtrak.net] : Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:29 PM : To: CF-Talk : Subject: RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) : : : it certainly helpsthanks for the info

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Rob Rohan
can think of. -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:tony;navtrak.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) it certainly helpsthanks for the infoalthough I am sure there will be a flood of opinions

RE: cfscript book

2002-11-12 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Faircloth, Prism Productions -Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info;turnkey.to] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfscript book What does Fusionscript have to do with cfscript? As near as I can tell there are no relation. I doubt

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) I would tend to argue that you should at least know the basics so that you can create quick UDFs for things you do often -- that's saved me hours and hours of coding time. They are easy

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Tony Weeg
that I can think of. -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:tony;navtrak.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) it certainly helpsthanks for the infoalthough I am sure there will be a flood of opinions

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Matthew Walker
[mailto:tony;navtrak.net] Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2002 10:53 a.m. To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) but isnt an included file, with some reusable code in it just as fast as a UDF? I guess maybe the only reason not would be the time to access the file

RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book)

2002-11-12 Thread Ben Doom
, 2002 4:53 PM : To: CF-Talk : Subject: RE: cfscript performance (was cfscript book) : : : but isnt an included file, : with some reusable code in it : just as fast as a UDF? I guess maybe the only : reason not would be the time to access the file : referenced in the cfinclude tagright