RE: Getting rid of maliceous code embedded in a jpg

2010-11-06 Thread Terry Troxel

Really, thanks for the reply, but the jhove site is way over my head.
Maybe someone will have a simpler answer.
Terry

-Original Message-
From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:59 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Getting rid of maliceous code embedded in a jpg


On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Terry Troxel wrote:

 I am trying to allow perspective clients to try my templates
 image tools in order to see if it will help sway them.
 I do not have any image samples with malicious code nor do I want any.
 My question is if I use the coldfusion image tags or my trusty cf_imagecr
 after the upload will it remove any of this or how about I save it as a
png?
 I do not want to open up any possible security issues.

There was an awesome thread on the Railo list, titled CFFile and MIME
types, that covered this issue a bit.

I think in the end, a virus scanner was the best bet?  Maybe trying to
convert the image to a different type would do the trick too, I can't
remember if that was covered.

There was a link for something that looked interesting:

http://hul.harvard.edu/jhove/

But I don't know if it would work.  I never got around to writing a
wrapper for it to test with.  =)

I bet conversion would be enough, though you'd probably run into the
odd legitimate file that didn't convert, for whatever reason.  Better
that than the alternative though, I say.  There are potential
false-positives with virus scanners too, although I'd wager less.

:Den

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Re: Closing Browser expires session/cookie

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Grant

OT:
lmgtfy.com = what did the five fingers say to the face?


On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:42 AM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tony Bentley wrote:
 
  So I have an app that uses cflogin, which works great if the user logs in
 and out from the same browser. Now here is where I am stumped:
 
  -User logs in, then closes the browser
  -System does not allow the same user to be logged in more than once
  -System logs all logged in users
  -System removes user from log onSessionEnd()
 
  How can I remove the user from the log when they close the browser?

 I think the best you can do is invalidate their previous session when
 they try to log in again.

 So they can still only be logged in once, but it's the current session
 that is the master, and the old session is discarded/invalidated.

 Due to the nature of sessions, this is the best you can do.  A thread
 on Ben's blog goes into a lot of depth about it.

 Probably the first hit on google:


 http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=expiring+cookies+when+browser+closes+coldfusionl=1

 (enable javascript to see the nifty typing action)

 :)

 :Den

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Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Monique Boea

hello

I am working on a app where users input their resumes.

I am using a TEXT datatype for some of my fields for large areas of text i.e. 
Career Summary.

The problem is when I output the text, there is not formatting to it and it 
looks like a large jumbled block of text.

Some of the user cut and paste from Word, so there are strange characters in 
the data also.

What is the best practice for storing and outputting large bodies of text?

Thank you.

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RE: Getting rid of maliceous code embedded in a jpg

2010-11-06 Thread Eric Roberts

I am not sure how cffile or cfimage handles it, but I do know that if you
pass a file to some of the Java classes and it's not a legit image file, it
will let you know.  You can also write a cfc into this that can check file
types to limit what file types get past and that will reduce the amount of
crap...

I just wrote a cfc based off of Ben Nadel's image utils cfc that creates
dynamic images on the fly...you might want to look at that.  It will kick
back a file if you say taker a text file and rename the ext to jpg.
-Original Message-
From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:59 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Getting rid of maliceous code embedded in a jpg


On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Terry Troxel wrote:

 I am trying to allow perspective clients to try my templates
 image tools in order to see if it will help sway them.
 I do not have any image samples with malicious code nor do I want any.
 My question is if I use the coldfusion image tags or my trusty cf_imagecr
 after the upload will it remove any of this or how about I save it as a
png?
 I do not want to open up any possible security issues.

There was an awesome thread on the Railo list, titled CFFile and MIME
types, that covered this issue a bit.

I think in the end, a virus scanner was the best bet?  Maybe trying to
convert the image to a different type would do the trick too, I can't
remember if that was covered.

There was a link for something that looked interesting:

http://hul.harvard.edu/jhove/

But I don't know if it would work.  I never got around to writing a
wrapper for it to test with.  =)

I bet conversion would be enough, though you'd probably run into the
odd legitimate file that didn't convert, for whatever reason.  Better
that than the alternative though, I say.  There are potential
false-positives with virus scanners too, although I'd wager less.

:Den

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Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Grant

For display you could try pre/pre which should preserve your line breaks
at least. It's been a while since I've used it so I'm unsure of it's
limitations. You could also try replacing chr(10)  chr(13) with br to
create html line breaks. As far as the strange characters it's probably the
weird open and close quotes etc that word uses. There's probably a regex out
there for doing the reformatting.

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com wrote:


 hello

 I am working on a app where users input their resumes.

 I am using a TEXT datatype for some of my fields for large areas of text
 i.e. Career Summary.

 The problem is when I output the text, there is not formatting to it and it
 looks like a large jumbled block of text.

 Some of the user cut and paste from Word, so there are strange characters
 in the data also.

 What is the best practice for storing and outputting large bodies of text?

 Thank you.

 

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Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Grant

Here's a few links, they are php but the regex is what's important.

http://php.bigresource.com/replace-non-ascii-characters-SDKRspXA.html#KKysUyTO
http://www.wessray.com/php/strip-and-remove-non-ascii-characters-using-php-regular-expressions/
http://www.wessray.com/php/strip-and-remove-non-ascii-characters-using-php-regular-expressions/

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com wrote:


 hello

 I am working on a app where users input their resumes.

 I am using a TEXT datatype for some of my fields for large areas of text
 i.e. Career Summary.

 The problem is when I output the text, there is not formatting to it and it
 looks like a large jumbled block of text.

 Some of the user cut and paste from Word, so there are strange characters
 in the data also.

 What is the best practice for storing and outputting large bodies of text?

 Thank you.

 

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Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Monique Boea

Ok thanks!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Grant 
  To: cf-talk 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype



  For display you could try pre/pre which should preserve your line breaks
  at least. It's been a while since I've used it so I'm unsure of it's
  limitations. You could also try replacing chr(10)  chr(13) with br to
  create html line breaks. As far as the strange characters it's probably the
  weird open and close quotes etc that word uses. There's probably a regex out
  there for doing the reformatting.

  On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com wrote:

  
   hello
  
   I am working on a app where users input their resumes.
  
   I am using a TEXT datatype for some of my fields for large areas of text
   i.e. Career Summary.
  
   The problem is when I output the text, there is not formatting to it and it
   looks like a large jumbled block of text.
  
   Some of the user cut and paste from Word, so there are strange characters
   in the data also.
  
   What is the best practice for storing and outputting large bodies of text?
  
   Thank you.
  
   

  

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RE: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Terry Troxel

You just might try Fckeditor for your text datatype entries 
as it has Paste from word which strips all the various MS formatting.
You can modify the menubar to only include the Controls that are needed.

Terry

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From: Monique Boea [mailto:moniqueb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype


Ok thanks!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Grant 
  To: cf-talk 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype



  For display you could try pre/pre which should preserve your line
breaks
  at least. It's been a while since I've used it so I'm unsure of it's
  limitations. You could also try replacing chr(10)  chr(13) with br to
  create html line breaks. As far as the strange characters it's probably
the
  weird open and close quotes etc that word uses. There's probably a regex
out
  there for doing the reformatting.

  On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
   hello
  
   I am working on a app where users input their resumes.
  
   I am using a TEXT datatype for some of my fields for large areas of text
   i.e. Career Summary.
  
   The problem is when I output the text, there is not formatting to it and
it
   looks like a large jumbled block of text.
  
   Some of the user cut and paste from Word, so there are strange
characters
   in the data also.
  
   What is the best practice for storing and outputting large bodies of
text?
  
   Thank you.
  
   

  



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RE: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Russ Michaels

You can also find useful functions on cflib.org for formatting and remove
word crap.
Htmltidy may also help you, this is not a cfml tag though so use google.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 November 2010 16:58
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Formatting the output of a text datatype


You just might try Fckeditor for your text datatype entries 
as it has Paste from word which strips all the various MS formatting.
You can modify the menubar to only include the Controls that are needed.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Monique Boea [mailto:moniqueb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype


Ok thanks!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Grant 
  To: cf-talk 
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype



  For display you could try pre/pre which should preserve your line
breaks
  at least. It's been a while since I've used it so I'm unsure of it's
  limitations. You could also try replacing chr(10)  chr(13) with br to
  create html line breaks. As far as the strange characters it's probably
the
  weird open and close quotes etc that word uses. There's probably a regex
out
  there for doing the reformatting.

  On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
   hello
  
   I am working on a app where users input their resumes.
  
   I am using a TEXT datatype for some of my fields for large areas of text
   i.e. Career Summary.
  
   The problem is when I output the text, there is not formatting to it and
it
   looks like a large jumbled block of text.
  
   Some of the user cut and paste from Word, so there are strange
characters
   in the data also.
  
   What is the best practice for storing and outputting large bodies of
text?
  
   Thank you.
  
   

  





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Re: Closing Browser expires session/cookie

2010-11-06 Thread denstar

Naw, if I meant it like that I'd be all like, [lmgtfy] FOAD! vs.
[lmgtfy] HAND!.  :)

I'm down with Bentley, yo!

So there!  =)

:Den

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On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Michael Grant wrote:

 OT:
 lmgtfy.com = what did the five fingers say to the face?


 On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:42 AM, denstar wrote:


 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tony Bentley wrote:
 
  So I have an app that uses cflogin, which works great if the user logs in
 and out from the same browser. Now here is where I am stumped:
 
  -User logs in, then closes the browser
  -System does not allow the same user to be logged in more than once
  -System logs all logged in users
  -System removes user from log onSessionEnd()
 
  How can I remove the user from the log when they close the browser?

 I think the best you can do is invalidate their previous session when
 they try to log in again.

 So they can still only be logged in once, but it's the current session
 that is the master, and the old session is discarded/invalidated.

 Due to the nature of sessions, this is the best you can do.  A thread
 on Ben's blog goes into a lot of depth about it.

 Probably the first hit on google:


 http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=expiring+cookies+when+browser+closes+coldfusionl=1

 (enable javascript to see the nifty typing action)

 :)

 :Den

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Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread denstar

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Russ Michaels wrote:

 You can also find useful functions on cflib.org for formatting and remove
 word crap.
 Htmltidy may also help you, this is not a cfml tag though so use google.


Totally!  cflib.org roxors.

You can probably find something that sanitizes the input for XSS
attacks and whatnot too, which shouldn't be overlooked.

I'd google it for the OP, but the OP doesn't know me that well, and
thus I might be interpreted incorrectly.  ;)p

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Re: Closing Browser expires session/cookie

2010-11-06 Thread Dave Watts

 Yeah but their session expires a couple of hours after they close the
 browser. So I could expire the session at a shorter timespan but if I can do
 it when the browser closes, that would be better.

The default session timeout is twenty minutes, I think. You should
probably set the session timeout to a shorter value than a couple of
hours. The session timeout only comes into play when the user stops
making requests: if a user requests another page every fifteen minutes
for eight hours, the session will continue for eight hours. If the
user waits more than twenty minutes to make another page request, that
user's session will have been destroyed.

You can't guarantee that you can destroy the session when the browser
closes. At best, you can break the connection between the user's
browser and the session by using session cookies, which are destroyed
when the browser is closed. If you've enabled J2EE sessions, they use
a session cookie by default. You can also use client-side
functionality (JavaScript, etc) to send a signal to the server when
certain things happen, but again this isn't all that reliable.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: Closing Browser expires session/cookie

2010-11-06 Thread Michael Grant

:D

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:24 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote:


 Naw, if I meant it like that I'd be all like, [lmgtfy] FOAD! vs.
 [lmgtfy] HAND!.  :)

 I'm down with Bentley, yo!

 So there!  =)

 :Den

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 Freedom is a system based on courage.
 Charles Peguy


 On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
 
  OT:
  lmgtfy.com = what did the five fingers say to the face?
 
 
  On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:42 AM, denstar wrote:
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tony Bentley wrote:
  
   So I have an app that uses cflogin, which works great if the user logs
 in
  and out from the same browser. Now here is where I am stumped:
  
   -User logs in, then closes the browser
   -System does not allow the same user to be logged in more than once
   -System logs all logged in users
   -System removes user from log onSessionEnd()
  
   How can I remove the user from the log when they close the browser?
 
  I think the best you can do is invalidate their previous session when
  they try to log in again.
 
  So they can still only be logged in once, but it's the current session
  that is the master, and the old session is discarded/invalidated.
 
  Due to the nature of sessions, this is the best you can do.  A thread
  on Ben's blog goes into a lot of depth about it.
 
  Probably the first hit on google:
 
 
 
 http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=expiring+cookies+when+browser+closes+coldfusionl=1
 
  (enable javascript to see the nifty typing action)
 
  :)
 
  :Den
 
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  from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket.
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Re: Closing Browser expires session/cookie

2010-11-06 Thread Tony Bentley

Okay, so I think you hit it Dave. I just need to shorten the session to 15 or 
20 minutes. The system already requires a login when the user closes the 
browser so why not just shorten the timeout? I've already have the user 
sessions stored in a cookie so I was close, but didn't think about why the 
timeout was so long. It spawns another idea where in one instance I want the 
inactivity to be prolonged but some ajax calls every 10 minutes would handle 
this.

Thanks! This really helps.


On Nov 6, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dave Watts wrote:

 
 Yeah but their session expires a couple of hours after they close the
 browser. So I could expire the session at a shorter timespan but if I can do
 it when the browser closes, that would be better.
 
 The default session timeout is twenty minutes, I think. You should
 probably set the session timeout to a shorter value than a couple of
 hours. The session timeout only comes into play when the user stops
 making requests: if a user requests another page every fifteen minutes
 for eight hours, the session will continue for eight hours. If the
 user waits more than twenty minutes to make another page request, that
 user's session will have been destroyed.
 
 You can't guarantee that you can destroy the session when the browser
 closes. At best, you can break the connection between the user's
 browser and the session by using session cookies, which are destroyed
 when the browser is closed. If you've enabled J2EE sessions, they use
 a session cookie by default. You can also use client-side
 functionality (JavaScript, etc) to send a signal to the server when
 certain things happen, but again this isn't all that reliable.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
 
 

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Installing CF9 on Windows 7 64 bit

2010-11-06 Thread Danny Czaja

The CF9 installers fails because it can't find the MDAC 2.6 or higher.  But, 
that object is now integrated into the OS directly.  So, it is available.  

Has anyone worked around this during the install of CF9? 

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Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Larry Lyons

Look at the DeMoronize function on CF-Lib.org It does a pretty good job of 
removing most Word related crud.
http://www.cflib.org/index.cfm?event=page.udfbyidudfid=725

Also you can use the replace function to replace the windows carriage returns 
and line feeds with a br /

However it may be easier just to use the HTMLEditFormat() function that does 
the same.

hth,
larry


 You can also find useful functions on cflib.org for formatting and remove
 word crap.
 Htmltidy may also help you, this is not a cfml tag though so use google.


Totally!  cflib.org roxors.

You can probably find something that sanitizes the input for XSS
attacks and whatnot too, which shouldn't be overlooked.

I'd google it for the OP, but the OP doesn't know me that well, and
thus I might be interpreted incorrectly.  ;)p

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Re: CF (8.0.0) performance vs PHP (5)

2010-11-06 Thread Larry Lyons

+1,000,000 for Jame's theory about string concatenation. CF is very
inefficient at this. Doesn't amtter much for small stuff and a few
repeats, but for bulk, a Java buffer is the way to go.

Dave



String concatenation is quite slow in CF. This blog did some fairly simple 
tests and found that cfsavecontent was the fastest was to do string 
concatendation, see http://blog.fi.net.au/?p=279

I've run run similar tests using a more robust testing procedure and found 
similar results, (see 
http://www.aliaspooryorik.com/blog/index.cfm/e/posts.details/post/string-concatenation-performance-test-128)
 Basically cfsavecontent is on the average twice as fast as the java string 
buffer. 

What I'd suggest is do not write the file line by line but build up the string 
using cfsavecontent then write the string to disk. I think you'll find that 
that is about as fast as the PHP method, or nearly so.

regards,
larry

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Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-06 Thread Monique Boea

Thanks terry. Good tip.

I never thought to use the fckeditor.


On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.comwrote:


 You just might try Fckeditor for your text datatype entries
 as it has Paste from word which strips all the various MS formatting.
 You can modify the menubar to only include the Controls that are needed.

 Terry

 -Original Message-
 From: Monique Boea [mailto:moniqueb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:34 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype


 Ok thanks!
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Grant
  To: cf-talk
  Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype



  For display you could try pre/pre which should preserve your line
 breaks
  at least. It's been a while since I've used it so I'm unsure of it's
  limitations. You could also try replacing chr(10)  chr(13) with br to
  create html line breaks. As far as the strange characters it's probably
 the
  weird open and close quotes etc that word uses. There's probably a regex
 out
  there for doing the reformatting.

  On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  
   hello
  
   I am working on a app where users input their resumes.
  
   I am using a TEXT datatype for some of my fields for large areas of text
   i.e. Career Summary.
  
   The problem is when I output the text, there is not formatting to it and
 it
   looks like a large jumbled block of text.
  
   Some of the user cut and paste from Word, so there are strange
 characters
   in the data also.
  
   What is the best practice for storing and outputting large bodies of
 text?
  
   Thank you.
  
  





 

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Re: Installing CF9 on Windows 7 64 bit

2010-11-06 Thread Dave Watts

 The CF9 installers fails because it can't find the MDAC 2.6 or higher.  But, 
 that object is now integrated into the OS directly.  So,
 it is available.

 Has anyone worked around this during the install of CF9?

I've installed CF 9 on Windows 7 64-bit several times, and have never
run into that issue.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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