CFImage at 300dpi
Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? I also have CFX_IMAGECR3 and CFX_IMAGEFLARE but their support doesn't reply lately even though their products are excellent. Terry ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341823 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Date format in HTML cfgrid
I am trying to format dates in an HTML cfgrid. I cannot seem to make it work in CF when using HTML as the grid type. I have also tried doing it in MSSQL by using - CONVERT(VARCHAR(10), startDate, 101) AS startDate. When I do that it shows up right in the grid but the grid will not sort on the date properly. Anyone know of a way to make it show up in the grid in a mm/dd/ format and also sort on the date properly? Any help would be great. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341824 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFImage at 300dpi
Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341825 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
ColdFusion Builder: Plug-In vs. Standalone
I am getting a new machine and we are installing all of the software. I am running Builder as a plug-in now and it is very flaky and a lot of features don't work (i.e. tag completion, code coloring is sporadic, etc.). Would you suggest I do this new install standalone? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341826 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but I would imagine that the concern is over how to have a print-ready image available online. Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing, as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send print-ready, 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change print dimensions or dpi. It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image formatted for high-quality printing (300dpi) online for download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments. I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement, but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment or delivering as a download would be the same. Thoughts? Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341827 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder: Plug-In vs. Standalone
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Donnie Carvajal donnie.carva...@transformyx.com wrote: I am getting a new machine and we are installing all of the software. I am running Builder as a plug-in now and it is very flaky and a lot of features don't work (i.e. tag completion, code coloring is sporadic, etc.). Would you suggest I do this new install standalone? I had troubles installing the stand alone after trial ran out, so I tried adding it to my existing eclipse as a plug-in and was having the same issues. I instead uninstalled coldfusion builder plugin, downloaded a fresh new copy of eclipse and then reinstalled the builder plug-in. It's been 100% less buggy now. Still a bit odd at times but none of the issues I was having previously. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Watermarking images
Anyone have a good tool for watermarking images either as they are displayed to the client, or on the backside as they are uploaded? Working on a parts database of 30k+ items and the part images are updated frequently. We regularly receive images discs or flash drives from manufacturers which we then just dump over the top of the old images, so doing the watermarking on the fly ensures it's always displayed without having to do the entire thing over. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341829 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Watermarking images
http://www.bennadel.com/blog/775-Learning-ColdFusion-8-CFImage-Part-III-Watermarks-And-Transparency.htm On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:14 AM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote: Anyone have a good tool for watermarking images either as they are displayed to the client, or on the backside as they are uploaded? Working on a parts database of 30k+ items and the part images are updated frequently. We regularly receive images discs or flash drives from manufacturers which we then just dump over the top of the old images, so doing the watermarking on the fly ensures it's always displayed without having to do the entire thing over. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341830 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Watermarking images
If you are running a version of CF that supports cfimage, have a look at this http://www.bennadel.com/blog/775-Learning-ColdFusion-8-CFImage-Part-III-Watermarks-And-Transparency.htm On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:14 AM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote: Anyone have a good tool for watermarking images either as they are displayed to the client, or on the backside as they are uploaded? Working on a parts database of 30k+ items and the part images are updated frequently. We regularly receive images discs or flash drives from manufacturers which we then just dump over the top of the old images, so doing the watermarking on the fly ensures it's always displayed without having to do the entire thing over. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341831 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Watermarking images
Yep...Will look. Any ideas on what sort of processing impact that puts on the server when done in real time, or if it's worth worrying about? -Original Message- From: Steve Milburn [mailto:scmilb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:29 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Watermarking images If you are running a version of CF that supports cfimage, have a look at this http://www.bennadel.com/blog/775-Learning-ColdFusion-8-CFImage-Part-III-Wate rmarks-And-Transparency.htm On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:14 AM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote: Anyone have a good tool for watermarking images either as they are displayed to the client, or on the backside as they are uploaded? Working on a parts database of 30k+ items and the part images are updated frequently. We regularly receive images discs or flash drives from manufacturers which we then just dump over the top of the old images, so doing the watermarking on the fly ensures it's always displayed without having to do the entire thing over. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341832 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
I checked out a conversation about this from 2009 and it was mentioned that the dpi was not inherent in the image, but rather a function of an image's metadata. That seems correct to me, but then the question would be, Can we manipulate an image's metadata with cfimage? Rick -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:54 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but I would imagine that the concern is over how to have a print-ready image available online. Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing, as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send print-ready, 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change print dimensions or dpi. It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image formatted for high-quality printing (300dpi) online for download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments. I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement, but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment or delivering as a download would be the same. Thoughts? Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341833 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Watermarking images
It's probably going to add a few seconds per request. Ideally you wouldn't be adding watermark at runtime. If it were me I'd batch process the img files and put them in a folder specifically for watermarked versions. That way you aren't running the watermark every single time an image is requested. You only watermark once per image. my $0.02 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:32 AM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote: Yep...Will look. Any ideas on what sort of processing impact that puts on the server when done in real time, or if it's worth worrying about? -Original Message- From: Steve Milburn [mailto:scmilb...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:29 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Watermarking images If you are running a version of CF that supports cfimage, have a look at this http://www.bennadel.com/blog/775-Learning-ColdFusion-8-CFImage-Part-III-Wate rmarks-And-Transparency.htm On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:14 AM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote: Anyone have a good tool for watermarking images either as they are displayed to the client, or on the backside as they are uploaded? Working on a parts database of 30k+ items and the part images are updated frequently. We regularly receive images discs or flash drives from manufacturers which we then just dump over the top of the old images, so doing the watermarking on the fly ensures it's always displayed without having to do the entire thing over. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341834 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Watermarking images
It's probably going to add a few seconds per request. Ideally you wouldn't be adding watermark at runtime. If it were me I'd batch process the img files and put them in a folder specifically for watermarked versions. That way you aren't running the watermark every single time an image is requested. You only watermark once per image. I'll second this. There's no reason you have to do this at runtime. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341835 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Watermarking images
This can easily be done with cfimage. I just wanted to offer my experience with doing it on the fly. If you hit my site, in my signature, you will see a watermarked mast head image. If you refresh, you will get another. My super cool plan was to have the watermark added on each request. It worked quickly enough that it was no problem at all... however, the image had some very strange caching issues on the browser side... I tried everything I could think of to get around it but eventually ended up watermarking the images and saving the watermarked file for display. When a new image is added to a directory, I can click a button to loop oever them, watermark them and move them to the directory that they will be displayed from. Ray Camden offered a good idea for a gateway that would watch the diectory and handle the watermakrs without any interaction... But my suggestion is to, somehow, watermark the images permanently and use those for display. You can always keep an original copy and watermark them again later (if your watermark changes or something). But the headaches of doing it on the fly became too much to worry with and I ended up saving watermarked versions instead. You can see some code and more detail here: http://acoderslife.com/index.cfm/blog/Mast-head-image-bug The code there is what I was using to watermark on the fly. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: wabba [mailto:must...@wabba.net] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:15 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Watermarking images Anyone have a good tool for watermarking images either as they are displayed to the client, or on the backside as they are uploaded? Working on a parts database of 30k+ items and the part images are updated frequently. We regularly receive images discs or flash drives from manufacturers which we then just dump over the top of the old images, so doing the watermarking on the fly ensures it's always displayed without having to do the entire thing over. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341836 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem: I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps. A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their printer's RIP. Thats why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT. Terry -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but I would imagine that the concern is over how to have a print-ready image available online. Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing, as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send print-ready, 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change print dimensions or dpi. It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image formatted for high-quality printing (300dpi) online for download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments. I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement, but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment or delivering as a download would be the same. Thoughts? Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341837 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem: I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps. A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their printer's RIP. Thats why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT. Terry -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but I would imagine that the concern is over how to have a print-ready image available online. Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing, as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send print-ready, 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change print dimensions or dpi. It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image formatted for high-quality printing (300dpi) online for download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments. I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement, but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment or delivering as a download would be the same. Thoughts? Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341838 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
Ben, I think I have my work cut out for me today with your suggestion in mind. Thank you very much. I started this out playing with CFPDF early on but switched to CFImage. Terry -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:34 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem: I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps. A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their printer's RIP. Thats why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT. Terry -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but I would imagine that the concern is over how to have a print-ready image available online. Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing, as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send print-ready, 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change print dimensions or dpi. It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image formatted for high-quality printing (300dpi) online for download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments. I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement, but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment or delivering as a download would be the same. Thoughts? Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341839 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
Ben, It's my understanding that while PDF's don't have a dpi, the embedded images do. If that's true, what's the default resolution for the images and how can that be adjusted at runtime? Also, I noticed on the CF Docs... http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/help.html?content=Tags_p-q_0 2.html ...that there is an option (under the Generate thumbnails... section), for setting resolution at high or low. Any idea what high and low means in terms of dpi? It seems that the entire image Terry is wanting to create could be saved using the resolution setting if the resolution at high is sufficient for printing at high quality. Rick -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:34 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem: I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps. A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their printer's RIP. Thats why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT. Terry -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but I would imagine that the concern is over how to have a print-ready image available online. Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing, as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send print-ready, 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change print dimensions or dpi. It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image formatted for high-quality printing (300dpi) online for download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments. I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement, but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment or delivering as a download would be the same. Thoughts? Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341840 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
Terry, In case you do have to use the PDF format for initial image creation, you might need to use a third-party application and create a batch file to run it to process your images. I found a couple that might be used this way (haven't tried these myself) at this URL: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/187-converting-your-pdf-file-into-an-image Let us know if you get something working. I'd be interested in your solution! Rick -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:40 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi Ben, I think I have my work cut out for me today with your suggestion in mind. Thank you very much. I started this out playing with CFPDF early on but switched to CFImage. Terry -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:34 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem: I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps. A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their printer's RIP. Thats why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT. Terry -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but I would imagine that the concern is over how to have a print-ready image available online. Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing, as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send print-ready, 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change print dimensions or dpi. It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image formatted for high-quality printing (300dpi) online for download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments. I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement, but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment or delivering as a download would be the same. Thoughts? Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print quality reasons? If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total number of pixels. 1. you may very well have an image defined at 300 dpi, but if it is only 300 px wide, you will only get a one inch good quality printed image. 2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision anyway. 3. I know that the concept of so called dots per inch is embedded in image files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the inches to make dot/inch? I other words, you may have a 75 dpi image printed at a very good quality if it is actually 4000 pix wide, and a very poor 4000 dpi printed image if it is only 75 pix wide. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341841 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments
Hello, I have a quick question about using CFthread inside a CFC. Inside my CFC I was to call another CFC method and pass it some of the arguments. Is the correct way to do this below. Do I need to pass in each argument scoped variable from the calling method and then refer to it in the attributes scope? This DOES work, but is it the best/correct way of doing it? cfthread name = storeMetaData action= run usr_id= #arguments.usrObj.usr_id# metaData = #propogateData# cfinvoke component = #application.multiUser.activeMeta# method = recordMetaData usr_id = #attributes.usr_id# metaData= #serializeJSON(attributes.metaData)# /cfthread Brook D. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341842 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion Builder: Plug-In vs. Standalone
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Donnie Carvajal donnie.carva...@transformyx.com wrote: I am getting a new machine and we are installing all of the software. I am running Builder as a plug-in now and it is very flaky and a lot of features don't work (i.e. tag completion, code coloring is sporadic, etc.). Would you suggest I do this new install standalone? I suspect you'll get a bunch of different answers here... I always run Builder as a standalone install because I tend to have multiple Eclipse installations, all configured differently for different projects (Java, Groovy, JBoss, whatever). That way it's easier to rebuild a single install if it gets corrupted, rather than having a single install with everything in it. My only caveat is that Builder standalone is not a full Eclipse install so certain plugins won't work because they depend on features present in Eclipse but not present in Builder (the Scala plugin was the one that caught me out). YMMV. As for stability, I've found Builder standalone to be really solid (and I have it open 24x7). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwoo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341843 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
Some thoughts on dpi and what it means to screen vs paper. Dpi effectively changes the size an image will print at, relative to its pixel density. http://www.scantips.com/no72dpi.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341844 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFImage at 300dpi
Dpi effectively changes the size an image will print at, relative to its pixel density. More accurately : dpi is a suggested default setting for the printer that would eventually print the image so that the image will be printed at the size specified in the file. But first, ANY printer will know and be able to set itself its resolution in order to print an image at a specified size. Second, it is not the task of the image creator to decide a priori which size the image should be printed. It is the user's choice. There are actually 3 things embedded inside a jpeg image: 1. size in inches, 2. size in pixels, 3. pixels / inch Every database manager will tell you that there is a data redundancy here and when there is a data redundancy, there is a risk od some contradiction somewhere. If you need to specify the size the image should be printed, only the size in pixels and the size in inches should be necessary. I know this is a standard, but this standard has been designed by morons. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
But all that still leaves us with the question of how to create a downloadable image file with CF that will carry 300dpi metadata with it to a printer. Of course, any end user can change the dpi, ppi, inches, etc., but in Terry's case, I suspect he wants to avoid that complication and simply deliver a printable object to end users. -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:59 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Dpi effectively changes the size an image will print at, relative to its pixel density. More accurately : dpi is a suggested default setting for the printer that would eventually print the image so that the image will be printed at the size specified in the file. But first, ANY printer will know and be able to set itself its resolution in order to print an image at a specified size. Second, it is not the task of the image creator to decide a priori which size the image should be printed. It is the user's choice. There are actually 3 things embedded inside a jpeg image: 1. size in inches, 2. size in pixels, 3. pixels / inch Every database manager will tell you that there is a data redundancy here and when there is a data redundancy, there is a risk od some contradiction somewhere. If you need to specify the size the image should be printed, only the size in pixels and the size in inches should be necessary. I know this is a standard, but this standard has been designed by morons. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341846 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFImage at 300dpi
But all that still leaves us with the question of how to create a downloadable image file with CF You're right. If CFimage does not do it, I have no solution. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341847 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFImage at 300dpi
Pretty sure that DPI is not an accessible via CFIMAGE. From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:22 PM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi But all that still leaves us with the question of how to create a downloadable image file with CF You're right. If CFimage does not do it, I have no solution. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341848 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Math weirdness
OK, a coworker sent this over to me and I am puzzled: cfset number1 = evaluate(12.5 * 1.1) cfset number2 = 12.5 * 1.1 cfset number3 = 13.75 cfset testEval = number3 - number1 cfset testNoEval = number3 - number2 cfoutput number1 (12.5 * 1.1): strong#number1#/strongbr number2 (#number2#): strong#number2#/strongbr number3 (#number3#): strong#number3#/strongbr #number3# - #number1#: strong#testEval#/strongBR #number3# - #number2#: strong#testNoEval#/strongBR cfif number3 eq number1Number3 equals number1BR cfelseNumber3 does NOT equal number1BR/cfif cfif number3 eq number2Number3 equals number2BR cfelseNumber3 does NOT equal number2BR/cfif /cfoutput Results in: number1 (evaluate(12.5 * 1.1)): 13.75 number2 (12.5 * 1.1): 13.75 number3 (13.75): 13.75 13.75 - 13.75: 0 13.75 - 13.75: -1.7763568394E-015 Number3 equals number1 Number3 does NOT equal number2 Obviously number2 is set to a reference of the expression rather than the actual value that is returned. But since the variable outputs as 13.75, why does it make a difference? Can someone explain it to me in small words so that I will understand? ;-) Jen Perkins McVicker Adobe Certified ColdFusion Developer Email: jen.mcvic...@gmail.com Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmcvicker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341849 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFImage at 300dpi
I agree I cannot find dpi either in CFIMAGE, but what about PIXEL SIZE, it is listed in IMAGEINFO. Is that related in any way? I am going to dig into Adobe acrobat and all of the CFPDF tags as Ben Forta suggested. From reading between the lines In the replies I could be wrong but this just might be something we all could benefit from as we all work mainly with Screen, browser output and there is a whole world out there for print media and 72 dpi doesn't cut it, and making Online applications for print media is a real big challenge. Terry -Original Message- From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi Pretty sure that DPI is not an accessible via CFIMAGE. From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:22 PM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi But all that still leaves us with the question of how to create a downloadable image file with CF You're right. If CFimage does not do it, I have no solution. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341850 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
re: Math weirdness
Whoa, creepy. That is certainly very odd. From: Jen McVicker snarkmeis...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:57 PM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Math weirdness OK, a coworker sent this over to me and I am puzzled: cfset number1 = evaluate(12.5 * 1.1) cfset number2 = 12.5 * 1.1 cfset number3 = 13.75 cfset testEval = number3 - number1 cfset testNoEval = number3 - number2 cfoutput number1 (12.5 * 1.1): strong#number1#/strongbr number2 (#number2#): strong#number2#/strongbr number3 (#number3#): strong#number3#/strongbr #number3# - #number1#: strong#testEval#/strongBR #number3# - #number2#: strong#testNoEval#/strongBR cfif number3 eq number1Number3 equals number1BR cfelseNumber3 does NOT equal number1BR/cfif cfif number3 eq number2Number3 equals number2BR cfelseNumber3 does NOT equal number2BR/cfif /cfoutput Results in: number1 (evaluate(12.5 * 1.1)): 13.75 number2 (12.5 * 1.1): 13.75 number3 (13.75): 13.75 13.75 - 13.75: 0 13.75 - 13.75: -1.7763568394E-015 Number3 equals number1 Number3 does NOT equal number2 Obviously number2 is set to a reference of the expression rather than the actual value that is returned. But since the variable outputs as 13.75, why does it make a difference? Can someone explain it to me in small words so that I will understand? ;-) Jen Perkins McVicker Adobe Certified ColdFusion Developer Email: jen.mcvic...@gmail.com Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmcvicker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Math weirdness
On 2/3/2011 12:56 PM, Jen McVicker wrote: Can someone explain it to me in small words so that I will understand? ;-) Computers do not understand decimal (base 10) numbers. They only truly understand binary (base 2) numbers. Sometimes when converting back and forth between the base 10 numbers we humans like to use and the base 2 numbers that computers have to use, small differences in rounding occur. 99.9% of the time, the computer systems handle these and we humans can ignore the base 2 nature of computers. But sometimes we really must be computer programmers and understand the real world of binary computers. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341852 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Math weirdness
These are the pitfalls of a dynamically typed language, and FLOAT/INT conversions. Your number1 is a string, number2 is a Double, and your number 3 is a string: cfoutput number3 is #number3.getClass().getName()#br / number2 is #number2.getClass().getName()#br / number1 is #number1.getClass().getName()#br / /cfoutput If you do val() they will equal out: cfif val(number3) eq val(number2)Number3 equals number2BR cfelseNumber3 does NOT equal number2BR/cfif From http://docs.sun.com/source/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html#680, the result of a floating-point calculation must often be rounded in order to fit back into its finite representation. This rounding error is the characteristic feature of floating-point computation. Checkout this code: cfoutput #(0.1 * 0.1) EQ 0.01# !--- not equal! --- #0.1 * 0.1# !--- 0.1 multiplied by 0.1 is actually 0.01, so why aren't they equal? --- #javacast(bigDecimal, 0.1 * 0.1)# !--- results in 0.010002 --- /cfoutput If you need strict computation, stick to Doubles or bigDecimals all the time, and don't rely on implicit conversions. Also this is not a CF thing or a Java thing, other languages plague this too i.e Python (for division, 3/4 is different from 3.0/4.0) and .NET (http://stefanoricciardi.com/2010/03/02/comparing-floating-point-numbers/), and PHP (http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/1820208/PHP-Floating-Point-Bug-Crashes-Servers http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/1820208/PHP-Floating-Point-Bug-Crashes-Servers?from=rss or just start typing in google instant, php floating... and you'll see all the suggestions hehe) On 2/3/2011 12:56 PM, Jen McVicker wrote: number1 (evaluate(12.5 * 1.1)): 13.75 number2 (12.5 * 1.1): 13.75 number3 (13.75): 13.75 13.75 - 13.75: 0 13.75 - 13.75: -1.7763568394E-015 Number3 equals number1 Number3 does NOT equal number2 Obviously number2 is set to a reference of the expression rather than the actual value that is returned. But since the variable outputs as 13.75, why does it make a difference? Can someone explain it to me in small words so that I will understand? ;-) Jen Perkins McVicker Adobe Certified ColdFusion Developer Email: jen.mcvic...@gmail.com Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmcvicker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341853 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments
Is that a question of preferred scope (id think attributes would be the only one that worked but would have to test that) or is it a question of passing in multiple arguments or a collection? I'd think what you have is perfectly acceptable. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments Hello, I have a quick question about using CFthread inside a CFC. Inside my CFC I was to call another CFC method and pass it some of the arguments. Is the correct way to do this below. Do I need to pass in each argument scoped variable from the calling method and then refer to it in the attributes scope? This DOES work, but is it the best/correct way of doing it? cfthread name = storeMetaData action= run usr_id= #arguments.usrObj.usr_id# metaData = #propogateData# cfinvoke component = #application.multiUser.activeMeta# method = recordMetaData usr_id = #attributes.usr_id# metaData= #serializeJSON(attributes.metaData)# /cfthread Brook D. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341854 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments
That's good enough for me Bobby :) Just haven't used cfthread much and wasn't sure if this was the correct syntax . Thanks :) -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: February-03-11 2:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments Is that a question of preferred scope (id think attributes would be the only one that worked but would have to test that) or is it a question of passing in multiple arguments or a collection? I'd think what you have is perfectly acceptable. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments Hello, I have a quick question about using CFthread inside a CFC. Inside my CFC I was to call another CFC method and pass it some of the arguments. Is the correct way to do this below. Do I need to pass in each argument scoped variable from the calling method and then refer to it in the attributes scope? This DOES work, but is it the best/correct way of doing it? cfthread name = storeMetaData action= run usr_id= #arguments.usrObj.usr_id# metaData = #propogateData# cfinvoke component = #application.multiUser.activeMeta# method = recordMetaData usr_id = #attributes.usr_id# metaData= #serializeJSON(attributes.metaData)# /cfthread Brook D. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341855 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments
It was a question of which scope is the recommend scope to use and/or if there is a better way to pass the argumentCollection... -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: February-03-11 3:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments That's good enough for me Bobby :) Just haven't used cfthread much and wasn't sure if this was the correct syntax . Thanks :) -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: February-03-11 2:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments Is that a question of preferred scope (id think attributes would be the only one that worked but would have to test that) or is it a question of passing in multiple arguments or a collection? I'd think what you have is perfectly acceptable. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Brook Davies [mailto:cft...@logiforms.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFTHREAD inside a CFC Method, question about arguments Hello, I have a quick question about using CFthread inside a CFC. Inside my CFC I was to call another CFC method and pass it some of the arguments. Is the correct way to do this below. Do I need to pass in each argument scoped variable from the calling method and then refer to it in the attributes scope? This DOES work, but is it the best/correct way of doing it? cfthread name = storeMetaData action= run usr_id= #arguments.usrObj.usr_id# metaData = #propogateData# cfinvoke component = #application.multiUser.activeMeta# method = recordMetaData usr_id = #attributes.usr_id# metaData= #serializeJSON(attributes.metaData)# /cfthread Brook D. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341856 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Math weirdness
Jen, This quirk is due to the difference between exact integer math and approximate floating point math. Some imprecision is introduced when CF converts the decimal number that you see to a binary floating point number that the computer performs the math function on. Some decimal numbers cannot be exactly represented by binary floating point numbers, so floating point math often has unexpected results. If you find this idea confusing, think of the more familiar base-10 number of 1/3. It looks exact in that representation, but presented another way that number is actually 0.33...(repeating). Infinitely repeating numbers also exist when using base-2 binary instead of base-10, but with a different set of fractions that cannot be represented without a loss of precision, such as 0.1. Computers cannot handle infinitely repeating numbers, so some rounding and loss of precision occurs. You should never see the precision problem with common integer math like incrementing loop counters. This floating point precision behavior impacts most programming languages, not just ColdFusion and Java. In strongly-typed platforms, such as .NET and SQL Server, you can tell the complier that a number is a decimal and that you want math performed on that number to be precise fixed-point math, not imprecise floating point math. I'm not sure of any good way to pull this off in ColdFusion. Possibly something with the javacast function would work, but that would be messy code. I just use a rounding function. The question of why does ColdFusion use imprecise floating point math instead of exact fixed-point math is one I don't have the answer to without researching it. It is annoying to have pass all math involving decimals through a rounding function, and it is easy to forget to do this. Does anyone know of a good way to fix this problem on a site-wide basis? It would be nice if ColdFusion was smart enough to know that addition and subtraction involving base-10 numbers with only one decimal point cannot result in a number with greater than one decimal point of precision. #3.2 - 3.2 + 8 - 8# = 0 #3.2 + 8 - 3.2 - 8# = -8.881784197E-016 #0.6/0.2# = 3 #0.6/0.2 - 3# = -4.4408920985E-016 -Mike Chabot On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jen McVicker snarkmeis...@gmail.com wrote: OK, a coworker sent this over to me and I am puzzled: cfset number1 = evaluate(12.5 * 1.1) cfset number2 = 12.5 * 1.1 cfset number3 = 13.75 cfset testEval = number3 - number1 cfset testNoEval = number3 - number2 cfoutput number1 (12.5 * 1.1): strong#number1#/strongbr number2 (#number2#): strong#number2#/strongbr number3 (#number3#): strong#number3#/strongbr #number3# - #number1#: strong#testEval#/strongBR #number3# - #number2#: strong#testNoEval#/strongBR cfif number3 eq number1Number3 equals number1BR cfelseNumber3 does NOT equal number1BR/cfif cfif number3 eq number2Number3 equals number2BR cfelseNumber3 does NOT equal number2BR/cfif /cfoutput Results in: number1 (evaluate(12.5 * 1.1)): 13.75 number2 (12.5 * 1.1): 13.75 number3 (13.75): 13.75 13.75 - 13.75: 0 13.75 - 13.75: -1.7763568394E-015 Number3 equals number1 Number3 does NOT equal number2 Obviously number2 is set to a reference of the expression rather than the actual value that is returned. But since the variable outputs as 13.75, why does it make a difference? Can someone explain it to me in small words so that I will understand? ;-) Jen Perkins McVicker Adobe Certified ColdFusion Developer Email: jen.mcvic...@gmail.com Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmcvicker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341857 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Watermarking images
Thanks for the ideas, a few seconds per display is definitely unacceptable with any sort of volume. Gets tricky when you have hundreds to update at a time and obviously can't run images through again which have already been watermarked. Many of the images are uploaded/updated via the web in which case it can easily be handled at that time. When batches are done (which is often times hundreds or thousands, and with no way to tell which are new and which are just duplicate copies of what already exists, particularly after the old ones are watermarked/modified...) it might be smart to just setup a temp directory with a script that could either be on a schedule or manually invoked to watermark and move. Keeping a second folder of clean images offline to pull form would be fine, anyone have any suggestions on a good command line utility? -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:29 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Watermarking images This can easily be done with cfimage. I just wanted to offer my experience with doing it on the fly. If you hit my site, in my signature, you will see a watermarked mast head image. If you refresh, you will get another. My super cool plan was to have the watermark added on each request. It worked quickly enough that it was no problem at all... however, the image had some very strange caching issues on the browser side... I tried everything I could think of to get around it but eventually ended up watermarking the images and saving the watermarked file for display. When a new image is added to a directory, I can click a button to loop oever them, watermark them and move them to the directory that they will be displayed from. Ray Camden offered a good idea for a gateway that would watch the diectory and handle the watermakrs without any interaction... But my suggestion is to, somehow, watermark the images permanently and use those for display. You can always keep an original copy and watermark them again later (if your watermark changes or something). But the headaches of doing it on the fly became too much to worry with and I ended up saving watermarked versions instead. You can see some code and more detail here: http://acoderslife.com/index.cfm/blog/Mast-head-image-bug The code there is what I was using to watermark on the fly. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: wabba [mailto:must...@wabba.net] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:15 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Watermarking images Anyone have a good tool for watermarking images either as they are displayed to the client, or on the backside as they are uploaded? Working on a parts database of 30k+ items and the part images are updated frequently. We regularly receive images discs or flash drives from manufacturers which we then just dump over the top of the old images, so doing the watermarking on the fly ensures it's always displayed without having to do the entire thing over. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341858 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: other companies and developers to watch out for
Mr. Michael Firth -I was about to offer you an assignment ⦠until I saw this post ⦠http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:820 This is considered libel ⦠and I can ( and WILL ) sue you for Defamation. I have taken screen shots of this post and documented it, and you will be hearing from my lawyer. I am contacting the others you have also libeled and will be filing a joint petition. I suggest that you CEASE AND DESIST IMMEDIATELY from your posts and write a retraction. Elliott J Kayne CEO Online Corporation of America ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4440 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: other companies and developers to watch out for
Okay this post is going against my better judgment, but here it goes: Mr. Kane, If I understand your email correctly, you are going to sue someone who has been without work for at least a month that I know of for libel. What kind of damages are you trying to recoup? Even if your awarded how will you collect? The individual has already screwed themselves out ever getting gainful employment via cf-jobs and your suit would just further marginalize them into desperation. With that said I have had several very good interactions with cf-jobbers both personal and business. At heart I think we a good group of people slow to anger and eager to help out. I hope we can remain the civil goodhearted folks I've known since joining. Mr. Firth, back away from the keyboard and cf-jobs. Think about what you want accomplish with your words. consider an apology and then volunteering your time on an open source project , blog about what your doing with them and focus on your studies. IMHO you need to rebuild your reputation and respect with this group of folks ad the coldfusion community at large. On 2/3/11 9:42 AM, Elliott Kayne wrote: Mr. Michael Firth -I was about to offer you an assignment ⦠until I saw this post ⦠http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:820 This is considered libel ⦠and I can ( and WILL ) sue you for Defamation. I have taken screen shots of this post and documented it, and you will be hearing from my lawyer. I am contacting the others you have also libeled and will be filing a joint petition. I suggest that you CEASE AND DESIST IMMEDIATELY from your posts and write a retraction. Elliott J Kayne CEO Online Corporation of America ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4441 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: other companies and developers to watch out for
It would be really terrific if all of this type of stuff could be shifted to cf-jobs-problems-annoyances. This kind of material needs to exit this thread. I'm not saying people might not have legitimate issues, but please take it somewhere else! Geoff Epstein RGB Software Inc -Original Message- From: Elliott Kayne [mailto:e...@onlinecorp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:42 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: other companies and developers to watch out for Mr. Michael Firth -I was about to offer you an assignment ââ¬Â¦ until I saw this post ââ¬Â¦ http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:820 This is considered libel ââ¬Â¦ and I can ( and WILL ) sue you for Defamation. I have taken screen shots of this post and documented it, and you will be hearing from my lawyer. I am contacting the others you have also libeled and will be filing a joint petition. I suggest that you CEASE AND DESIST IMMEDIATELY from your posts and write a retraction. Elliott J Kayne CEO Online Corporation of America ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4442 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: other companies and developers to watch out for
Please consider this a retraction of my previous statement and an apology to those who feel they have been harmed. Under the threat of legal action I cannot bear to put my family through that, so I must ask those who feel such steps are necessary to call it off and consider this my full apology. Also, let be noted that I have filled out a contact form request to remove me fully from this list because I wish no longer to be a member. This was done yesterday prior to the thread in questioned,but yet I am still waiting. There will be no more and that is a guarantee. Michael Firth Sworn on this date of Feb 3 2010 I ve accepted the fact that I will not probably get another job from this list so you know what who cares. So i might as well empty the closet on all those who I think have done a lot of damage to our career field. companies and developers to watch out for mediaspa - for whatever reason if you get on their bad side watch out colony1 - i ve added mr. adams company because he made an attempt at trying to crucify me in a public arena. i tried apologizing to no avail. i have also worked for adam in the past. i always thought we parted ways on a good note. guess i was wrong. talk about grudges. topofmind - this is an atlanta company that asked to interview twice then said we change our minds even though they told me they were going to hire me. heck i tried apologizing too even though they wronged me. oh well. elliot kayne - another gentleman that said he would hire me then backed out. wish you guys would make up your mind. by the way he runs onlinecorp.com and quickcart.com. watch out he will string you along too. superwarehouse.com - rand will talk to you but wont return your emails once hes made up his mind. ken fergurson - wow . an oldie but goodie. even had a few people asked about him. hope you didnt ruin your career either. maureen with a gmail address - another attempt at crucifying me. seems like a double standard here. you tell me i am disturbing you but you call me out in public too. I do want to thank the gentleman at Adobe who will remain nameless for the free copy of cfbuilder. Alas it wasn't meant to be. I do think there are more good people than bad, but the bad do leave an odor. So anyone who may have a question regarding the above I will give my perspective. I know i also hear from some of you but I dont really care because lets face i wont get a job from here and to be honest i dont think i want one. Mike Firth ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4443 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: other companies and developers to watch out for
Please consider this a retraction of my previous statement and an apology to those who feel they have been harmed. Under the threat of legal action I cannot bear to put my family through that, so I must ask those who feel such steps are necessary to call it off and consider this my full apology. Also, let be noted that I have filled out a contact form request to remove me fully from this list because I wish no longer to be a member. This was done yesterday prior to the thread in questioned,but yet I am still waiting. There will be no more and that is a guarantee. Michael Firth Sworn on this date of Feb 3 2010 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid: Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: other companies and developers to watch out for
That's freakin' hilarious! Please don't go! This I better than anything on TV! On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Michael Firth mftr...@att.net wrote: Please consider this a retraction of my previous statement and an apology to those who feel they have been harmed. Under the threat of legal action I cannot bear to put my family through that, so I must ask those who feel such steps are necessary to call it off and consider this my full apology. Also, let be noted that I have filled out a contact form request to remove me fully from this list because I wish no longer to be a member. This was done yesterday prior to the thread in questioned,but yet I am still waiting. There will be no more and that is a guarantee. Michael Firth Sworn on this date of Feb 3 2010 I ve accepted the fact that I will not probably get another job from this list so you know what who cares. So i might as well empty the closet on all those who I think have done a lot of damage to our career field. companies and developers to watch out for mediaspa - for whatever reason if you get on their bad side watch out colony1 - i ve added mr. adams company because he made an attempt at trying to crucify me in a public arena. i tried apologizing to no avail. i have also worked for adam in the past. i always thought we parted ways on a good note. guess i was wrong. talk about grudges. topofmind - this is an atlanta company that asked to interview twice then said we change our minds even though they told me they were going to hire me. heck i tried apologizing too even though they wronged me. oh well. elliot kayne - another gentleman that said he would hire me then backed out. wish you guys would make up your mind. by the way he runs onlinecorp.com and quickcart.com. watch out he will string you along too. superwarehouse.com - rand will talk to you but wont return your emails once hes made up his mind. ken fergurson - wow . an oldie but goodie. even had a few people asked about him. hope you didnt ruin your career either. maureen with a gmail address - another attempt at crucifying me. seems like a double standard here. you tell me i am disturbing you but you call me out in public too. I do want to thank the gentleman at Adobe who will remain nameless for the free copy of cfbuilder. Alas it wasn't meant to be. I do think there are more good people than bad, but the bad do leave an odor. So anyone who may have a question regarding the above I will give my perspective. I know i also hear from some of you but I dont really care because lets face i wont get a job from here and to be honest i dont think i want one. Mike Firth ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4445 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: other companies and developers to watch out for
I think you can rest assured that if M.F. tells us NOT to trust someone... that we are most likely going to do the opposite. That said, his drama and all of the replies to it are getting seriously old. I filtered him and that works great... until people reply to him. I guess I just need to add a message body filter for his name. -Original Message- From: Elliott Kayne [mailto:e...@onlinecorp.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:42 AM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: other companies and developers to watch out for Mr. Michael Firth -I was about to offer you an assignment ââ¬Â¦ until I saw this post ââ¬Â¦ http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:820 This is considered libel ââ¬Â¦ and I can ( and WILL ) sue you for Defamation. I have taken screen shots of this post and documented it, and you will be hearing from my lawyer. I am contacting the others you have also libeled and will be filing a joint petition. I suggest that you CEASE AND DESIST IMMEDIATELY from your posts and write a retraction. Elliott J Kayne CEO Online Corporation of America ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4446 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: other companies and developers to watch out for
Final post to those involved in possible legal action against me (in case you haven't received my emails): If your lawyers require my contact info, you may contact Mr. Kayne. He has my phone number. I have already gone ahead and deleted my email, mfsqlser...@gmail.com because I have yet to get any response from those involved. In addition, THIS IS MY FINAL POST, and will no longer visit here and can only hope my account is truly deleted. There is no need for a full legal suit because I am already to settle and all my assets are for your pickings. Kick the tire now, because most likely I won't be in my current address for very long given my situation. I will provide a full list and you can even have my car payment. I get the cat though. I don't what else to say, besides sorry again. two of you claim to wanting give me employment, but you gave me different impressions, be it good or bad. I have said what I needed to say. If you want everything go ahead take it because I am done. I am really done. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4447 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: other companies and developers to watch out for
I feel bad for the cat. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Michael Firth mftr...@att.net wrote: Final post to those involved in possible legal action against me (in case you haven't received my emails): If your lawyers require my contact info, you may contact Mr. Kayne. He has my phone number. I have already gone ahead and deleted my email, mfsqlser...@gmail.com because I have yet to get any response from those involved. In addition, THIS IS MY FINAL POST, and will no longer visit here and can only hope my account is truly deleted. There is no need for a full legal suit because I am already to settle and all my assets are for your pickings. Kick the tire now, because most likely I won't be in my current address for very long given my situation. I will provide a full list and you can even have my car payment. I get the cat though. I don't what else to say, besides sorry again. two of you claim to wanting give me employment, but you gave me different impressions, be it good or bad. I have said what I needed to say. If you want everything go ahead take it because I am done. I am really done. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4450 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
