Scheduler directory missing.

2015-03-26 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi guys, long time no speak.

Hardly doing any CF work these days, but still looking after a couple of
long time customers on CF 7.

I know it's old (ok, ancient), but it does what I need it to do.  I've
hardly touched the CF 7 install in years.  

Today I went to check a scheduled tasks and the entire /scheduler directory
is awol.  I suspect because I hid it from hackers so well that I can't find
it!

Is it possible to run a CF7 reinstall to recover this directory without
overwriting my existing installation and configuration?

Thanks,
Jenny




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RE: Scheduler directory missing.

2015-03-26 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks, Dave.  Could I install on another server and just copy the directory
over?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 26 March 2015 17:54
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Scheduler directory missing.


 Is it possible to run a CF7 reinstall to recover this directory 
 without overwriting my existing installation and configuration?

No, I don't think so, but you could export your existing configuration first
then reinstall and import the configuration.

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RE: Scheduler directory missing.

2015-03-26 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks .. 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 26 March 2015 18:45
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Scheduler directory missing.


 Thanks, Dave.  Could I install on another server and just copy the 
 directory over?

Without testing it myself I can't say for sure, but I think it probably
would work just fine.

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RE: Is time for a change?

2014-11-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I'd be interested to know which route you decide to take.

I stopped taking on new clients about 2 years ago.  I now look after only 3
and their bandwidth requirements are small.  They've all been with me for a
very long time and do produce a useful bit of income.

My setup now is a windows 2003 server with CF7 / SQL 2000.  Old, I know, but
it works and there has been nothing of use to me in the upgrades, certainly
nothing to make it worth me paying the crazy upgrade costs.  The server sits
in my garage on a business broadband line, not ideal, I know this,
especially as my garage has been converted into a headshot studio for my
photography business!

I don't have time for the major hassle of porting my sites from CF7 to
whatever CF is on now.  I also integrating one of the sites quite heavily
into my SmarterMail server, such as automated generation of mail list
members and I pull the contents of one of the mail lists into an archive
made available on the website.

Ideally I'd like to get everything shifted to a VPS, but would I be able to
run these old applications?  And where could I get an inexpensive yet
reliable service?

I'd appreciate any ideas, please.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Eidson [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net] 
Sent: 08 November 2014 01:48
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Is time for a change?


Oh I know all about the email hosting.. .Before I moved to Hostek I had a T1
line into my basement. Did all my own hosting, I had 2 server cabinets with
all Dells...(I still have them) pretty good setup. I started my company with
that and then the T1 became outdated and very expensive.  I used ArgoSoft
Mail Server, actually really liked it but the SPAM and Blacklist were a
nightmare. But back then my company was bigger with closer to 100
domains/clients. I formed a partnership with another person who pretty much
screwed me over. We split up the company (lost a lot of clients in the
breakup) and I formed Eidson Empire, LLC. and moved to Hostek for my
provider. 

I still not sure what I am going to do.. I think the VPS will be more than I
can afford right now. Maybe if I land about 10 more clients I can justify
it.

Rick



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RE: Adobe is just a spammer now

2014-10-23 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Yes you were.  It's just not very obvious.  It's in the middle of the top
area of the screen.

Regardless, it should default to unclicked.  I wrote to Adobe about this and
got a prompt reply promising a change.  No change made, no change accepted.
But when have Adobe ever listened to user feedback?

-Original Message-
From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 October 2014 21:08
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe is just a spammer now


You can say whatever you like, Eric but i was given NO OPPORTUNITY TO
DESELECT the installation of the McAfee product which I definitely DO NOT
WANT.

I downloaded the flash installer,   then ran the installer,  and it went
right ahead and installed two items - the flash player and then without
pause the McAfee crap.

Because of the treatment I received from McAfee a few years back, I resolved
never EVER to do business with McAfee again, and so it's doubly bad that
Adobe force it on me.


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting
from AUD$15/month




On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Eric Roberts 
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:


 Yes...you can deselect it...it is a detestable practice that should 
 default to not checked rather than checked.

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RE: Adobe is just a spammer now

2014-10-23 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Sorry to hear that.  Wish I was more surprised.  Adobe ..

-Original Message-
From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 23 October 2014 22:56
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe is just a spammer now


Jenny, thank you for your contribution.  I hate to disagree with you, but
since I knew the flash installer was going to try to force McAfee on me as
it did last time  (and really made a mess of my Norton - I had to reinstall
that too as a result), I was looking for the checkbox or button so I could
decline to install it. .

And it didnt appear.   I had no choice to not install McAfee.

I think there are different versions of the installer,  or it offers the
choice in some circumstances and not in others.But i DID NOT have the
choice to decline installing McAfee.





On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:


 Yes you were.  It's just not very obvious.  It's in the middle of the 
 top area of the screen.

 Regardless, it should default to unclicked.  I wrote to Adobe about 
 this and got a prompt reply promising a change.  No change made, no 
 change accepted.
 But when have Adobe ever listened to user feedback?

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 18 October 2014 21:08
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Adobe is just a spammer now


 You can say whatever you like, Eric but i was given NO OPPORTUNITY TO 
 DESELECT the installation of the McAfee product which I definitely DO 
 NOT WANT.

 I downloaded the flash installer,   then ran the installer,  and it went
 right ahead and installed two items - the flash player and then 
 without pause the McAfee crap.

 Because of the treatment I received from McAfee a few years back, I 
 resolved never EVER to do business with McAfee again, and so it's 
 doubly bad that Adobe force it on me.


 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks 
 http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET 
 hosting from AUD$15/month




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  Yes...you can deselect it...it is a detestable practice that should 
  default to not checked rather than checked.
 
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RE: CF 11

2014-06-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Which should have been in the product 10 years ago.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] 
Sent: 25 June 2014 17:19
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 11


CF 10 introduces a updater in the CFAdmin, and an auto update function


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote:


 Hi Folks
 Wondering what the advantages of CF11 over CF10

 The one thing I am looking for is ease of doing the updates and 
 patches, which is pretty miserable in CF9

 Rob
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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-29 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

So cost has nothing to do with it.  How enlightening, as ever.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 28 March 2014 17:52
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


 sure something may break by being locked down, but as I said earlier, 
 you have 2 choices..

 1. out of the box install,  not secure, but your site works just 
 fine.. So nothing to learn unless you choose to. User continues in
blissful ignorance.
 2. out of the box, locked down and secure, but site may break, so you 
 have to learn something about CF security to get it working. Learning 
 is required and not optional, user has now learnt something new and 
 has a secure system.

 surely this is a no brainier.

This explains why absolutely no one uses Windows web servers. After all,
that's how Unix web servers always worked, pretty much. You had to know what
you were doing to get them working. I can see now why Windows never got any
market share.

(note: this is not an endorsement of one or the other, just an observation)

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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-29 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Dave, I am curious.  Have you ever, even once, changed your mind because of
what someone has told you?


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 28 March 2014 18:07
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


 if you think no-one uses Windows web servers then you are wrong, very
wrong.

Uh, yeah, I know that. That was my point.

 It would seem you also think that Windows is not locked down by 
 default, that may have been true once upon a time, but is no longer 
 the case and hasn't been for many years.Certainly since Windows Server 
 2008, you must specifically choose which roles to install, everything 
 is not installed by default, the firewall is also installed and 
 enabled by default with only the basic required services allowed through
and networking is also disabled.

I guess you can interpret many years however you like, but the simple fact
is, from the beginning and through the majority of the lifespan of Windows
servers, this was not the default. And I don't think Windows would have been
nearly as popular for servers if it had started out that way. The fact that
things worked by default gave Windows market share.

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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-29 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

From what I have learnt from this thread so far, Adobe has actually got
worse.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
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Sent: 28 March 2014 18:10
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


 It's Microsoft's approach ... now. But it took them a long time to get
there.

You're probably right. The point here is that it is taking even a longer
time to Adobe.




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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-29 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 28 March 2014 18:41
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

I've got bad news for you. Stick this in Google:
[product] default vulnerability
and prepare to be amazed. Some suggestions: PHP, IIS, Apache. Not all
allow remote users to execute arbitrary code, but plenty do.

I get it.  Because other technologies and applications are bad it's fine for
CF to be bad, too.  Regardless of how much we have to pay for it.

I submit to you that it should not be surprising that products explicitly
designed for security purposes, like firewalls and VPNs, will be expected to
be secure by default.

I submit to you, LOL.  Awesome.  So, a business invests in all of the
security available, such as firewalls, only to have CF open the gates  What
a brilliant piece of logic.  I submit to you, that's screwed up.

 The notion that it's the sys admins fault if a product installs in an 
 unsecure way beggers belief.

No, that's not the sysadmins' fault. But leaving a product at the default
install state on an untrusted network - that IS the sysadmins'
fault. How is a sysadmin going to make sure that the developers'
applications are secured properly, if he doesn't know enough to secure the
one web application that's packaged with the product?

The long list of security measures that have to take place after a standard
CF install are ridiculous.  Believe it or not, sys admins have better things
to do with their time.  

Dave, I suggest you wander down to your corporate IT department and offer to
help them out for a few days so you get a taste of reality.

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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-29 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

+1

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 28 March 2014 20:42
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


A locked door is useless if you leave the windows open.

Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
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cflive.net
cfsearch.com
On 28 Mar 2014 19:09, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  I also once had a client who did this, they were Linux heads who 
  thought that hiding the sucky insecure windows/cf server behind a 
  linux server and doing a reverse proxy would make it secure.

 There is no such thing as make it secure, of course. But it is more 
 secure. It solves one specific security problem - preventing 
 executable code from being directly accessed from an untrusted 
 network.

  But of course it didn't as everything still works the same way, the 
  SQL injections still got through, the insecure file upload forms 
  still
 allowed
  files to be uploaded, which could then be executed as they had 
  cfexecute and cfregistry enabled.

 So what you're saying is that, despite the fact that the environment 
 was (more) secure by default, developers accidentally wrote 
 exploitable code?

 I have the feeling there's some lesson to be drawn from this. I wonder 
 what it is?

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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-29 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Correcting the installer won't solve all problems, but it should not be the
CAUSE of problems.

Hey sys admin, I'm going to make your day!  Here's an app which we KNOW has
security issues and requires a lot of maintenance. You're going to have to
become an expert in this new technology, invest even more time patching it
and discover security leaks you won't even be informed about, it'll be your
job to tell the app vendor about that, too!  

In addition, the company that produces the application got hacked recently
and the hackers got a lot of user data.  But we developers, we're not
worried about this because if our server gets hacked (through widely
published methods well known by the hacker community), it's all YOUR fault!
I mean, it's not like you've got anything better to do, is it?

*sound of running feet and screaming*

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 29 March 2014 14:23
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


   I also once had a client who did this, they were Linux heads who 
   thought that hiding the sucky insecure windows/cf server behind 
   a linux server and doing a reverse proxy would make it secure.
 
  There is no such thing as make it secure, of course. But it is 
  more secure. It solves one specific security problem - preventing 
  executable code from being directly accessed from an untrusted 
  network.
 
   But of course it didn't as everything still works the same way, 
   the SQL injections still got through, the insecure file upload 
   forms still allowed files to be uploaded, which could then be 
   executed as they had cfexecute and cfregistry enabled.
 
  So what you're saying is that, despite the fact that the environment 
  was (more) secure by default, developers accidentally wrote 
  exploitable code?
 
  I have the feeling there's some lesson to be drawn from this. I 
  wonder what it is?

 A locked door is useless if you leave the windows open.

I think we might be in agreement! But maybe for different reasons.

Setting up application servers to be secure is hard. Ensuring that
application code doesn't contain vulnerabilities is hard. And you're not
going to be able to solve security problems with an installer.
People need to know what they're doing. They need to have a base level of
competence at their jobs. No installer in the world is going to idiot-proof
web applications.

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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-29 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Please send a photo of your world, I'd like to know what colour the sky is?

You are telling ME how a sys admin or IT manager does their job?  Well
thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 29 March 2014 16:50
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


 Correcting the installer won't solve all problems, but it should not 
 be the CAUSE of problems

The installer is installing an application server. Again, this is inherently
dangerous, period, end of story. This particular installer sets up a web
application that is needed to configure the server, and has to immediately
function in order to complete the installation process. The web application
is the source of nearly every CF vulnerability, and has been for many years.
In addition, it's very easy to install that web application securely with
just a little bit of knowledge, as I outlined previously.

And hey! if you install CF 10 today, it gives you a little checkbox called
Secure Profile which does exactly what you want! (Assuming that what you
want is to limit access to the CF Administrator, disable RDS, require a
complex password, disable debugging and detailed error messages, etc, etc.)
I'm still not going to rely on that to secure access to CF Administrator,
because I prefer to simply block access to it entirely from untrusted
networks. But it seems to solve the specific problem you're complaining
about.

So, honestly, I'm not really sure what you're going on about, other than
administrators shouldn't be bothered to learn what they're doing.

 Hey sys admin, I'm going to make your day!  Here's an app which we 
 KNOW has security issues and requires a lot of maintenance. You're 
 going to have to become an expert in this new technology, invest even 
 more time patching it and discover security leaks you won't even be 
 informed about, it'll be your job to tell the app vendor about that, too!

Well, honestly, if you set it up correctly in the first place and followed
the instructions in the lockdown guide where appropriate, you actually
wouldn't have to worry nearly as much about patches. Given that the vast
majority of CF vulnerabilities are in the CF Administrator specifically, if
you configure access to that correctly you don't have to become an expert,
spend a lot of time patching, or discovering security leaks. The same is
true for EVERY PIECE OF SOFTWARE YOU EXPOSE TO UNTRUSTED NETWORKS.

People used to expose database servers to the public. Whether a database
server has known vulnerabilities or not, that's just a bad idea, and anyone
who's installing a database server should know better.

 In addition, the company that produces the application got hacked 
 recently and the hackers got a lot of user data.

I'm not sure how that's all that important here. Adobe was not hacked
through a CF vulnerability. If you want to find people using CF, you don't
need to hack Adobe to get that. There are lots of people who have that data.
Admittedly, if you want to find people who bought older versions of CF, that
would be easier to get from Adobe, but that wouldn't tell you whether those
people are still using CF or whether their servers were set up properly. In
addition, that would have nothing to do with what you want Adobe to do now.
To the best of my knowledge, Adobe does not possess a time machine, so they
can't go back in time to fix problems in old installed systems other than by
providing patches. I guess that it's a good thing that administrators don't
have to worry about patching anything else.

 But we developers, we're not worried about this because if our server 
 gets hacked (through widely published methods well known by the hacker 
 community), it's all YOUR fault! I mean, it's not like you've got anything
better to do, is it?

 *sound of running feet and screaming*

I'd be interested to hear how security audits work in your organization. On
second though, maybe not.

If you think vulnerabilities don't exist for other products, through widely
published methods well known by the hacker community, I don't know what to
tell you. If you install any application that will be exposed to untrusted
networks, you are expected to apply basic due diligence. If you cannot do
that, you should not be administering that system. And for CF, at least,
it's easy to block the widely published methods well known by the hacker
community.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-28 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I can't say I've read every post, but I have read most.

One point I'd like to take up is this business of the CF install and
security.  I've seen all sorts of statements made about sys admins and their
duties which as a past sys admin and IT Manager I found interesting.

The idea that any application is installed on a server that is open to the
internet, or even if used internally, should be installed in such a way that
is open to hacking by default is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

I have been responsible for corporate level global infrastructures including
the use of firewalls, VPNs, etc.  If you have ever worked with any high
standard product you will be aware that features remained closed by default.
You don't install a firewall and find all the ports are open and you have to
select which to close, quite the reverse.

The notion that it's the sys admins fault if a product installs in an
unsecure way beggers belief.

I recognise that PHP and .Net aren't exactly perfect, but for CF to have a
backdoor entry point as standard in the install is plainly stupid and it has
not helped sell CF as an option.

Sure, not all sys admins have the sort of skill set one would expect, I have
certainly come across a few of these in my 30 years in IT.  However, a sys
admin has plenty enough to deal with without being having intrinsically bad
application installs thrown at him or her.

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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Exactly.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Cameron [mailto:dacc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 March 2014 14:27
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


If it only works on localhost *by default*, then this mitigates most of the
problem just like that.

--
Adam


On 26 March 2014 14:17, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  What I mean is that Adobe recommands that CFIDE should be moved to a
 safer place, but, after several
  versions, CFIDE is still installed the same way.

 Of course it is. If It were somewhere else, you wouldn't be able to
 administer CF after an out-of-the-box install. It's up to you to
 understand how web servers and web applications work, and set it up
 properly after it's installed.

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RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Good summary, Rick.  Aside from a few customers I still support I'm not
looking for more.

I found CF very easy to learn because it was a tag based system and I
already knew html, it felt familiar.  I can just about work out what's going
on in a piece of c++, for example, but it's so much easier in CF.

I'm strangely sad to leave CF behind, but nothing lasts forever.   I do feel
that if Adobe had supported the product and marketed it, it would have
lasted a little longer and been a lot more fun while it was in it's heyday.

One thing that I have noticed is often overlooked.  PHP developers generated
a LOT of pretty darn good open source applications.  CMS, countless
eCommerce apps, BBS/forums.  I often wonder why so little was done like this
by developers for CF.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Sanders [mailto:r...@webenergy.ca] 
Sent: 18 March 2014 17:53
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


I come from the days of Everyware and Pervasive using the Tango technology.
Same idea as CF being a tag-based language with an application server.
Tag-based is easier to learn and has many benefits.
When Macromedia bought CF, it was a God-send to integrate CF and Dreamweaver
together without having to use Homesite or the bulky Allaire CF editor.
Unfortunately, Macromedia bombed when it came to marketing Cold Fusion.
Remember Ultradev? Macromedia's response to a WYSIWYG java, html, database
application which was supposed to replace Dreamweaver? Macromedia focused
too much on Ultradev and ignored the much needed CF marketing.

Fast forward to Adobe (The document and printing solutions company) with
failing web products to buy Macromedia. Like everyone, I was hoping for a
re-brand of CF. Nothing happened. They never marketed it. At a trade show in
New York (Internet World) I went to the Adobe booth. No one wanted to talk
about CF, and there was one brochure with a paragraph mentioning CF that's
it.
Adobe came out with Cold Fusion Builder which is sort of nifty, but not
nearly as good as Dreamweaver for building CF websites. Now Adobe is pushing
their Creative Cloud (copying Office 365 are we?) which I would never use
because of the continuous hacks to Adobe's servers and private information
breaches.

So what are the alternatives? PhP. Not secure, messy code, can't load
balance between multiple servers unless you BUY an app server for it. Most
PhP hosters throw the web server, database server and email server on the
same box and call it a day. I programmed PhP code for a year and will never
do it again. The problems with hacking, SQL injection attacks, URL hacks
etc... take up time to fix at the developer's expense. PhP, Linux, MYSQL,
Cpanel, Wordpress Joomla and many others are free. You get what you pay for.
A proper coded CF site won't get hacked if the code is well written and the
server is configured properly.

There's ASP.net but personally I don't want to program something for 3
months in .NET that takes 3 weeks in CF. Plus Microsoft changes things
around way too much, and Visual Studio is stupid expensive. Sure there's
Expression web (does anyone really use it?) and some plugins for
Dreamweaver. There's Dot Net Nuke if you have lots of time on your hands
too. Most of my clients don't want to wait. And .NET developers are the
snobs of the development community expecting high hourly rates. Content
Management Server was a nice touch if you had deep pockets and lots of staff
to maintain multiple servers but Microsoft did away with that too.

Is CF dying? It is dying a slow death in my opinion. Adobe has dropped the
ball with marketing. Heck, they don't even use it on their own site! PhP is
the internet king for programming, and Wordpress is keeping developers
making thousands of plugins for it. In the technical colleges and
universities they teach PhP, Java, and .NET. New developers aren't even
exposed to CF anymore. When you say Adobe, the first 2 things that come to
mind are PDF and Photoshop.

I'll continue to use CF for as long as I can, then just leave the web
development game since the only player is PhP and I don't have the time nor
desire to get into that technology.

Kind Regards,

Rick Sanders
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-Original Message-
From: Jon Clausen [mailto:jon_clau...@silowebworks.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:32 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Adam Cameron dacc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tag-based code is godawful anywhere other than in a view, or some 
 other situation in which text-processing is needed. Which does not 
 describe an awful lot of CFML code out there.
 
 That Macromedia/Adobe pushed the tag side of CFML over the script side 
 is probably the worst strategic move they ever made.

Agree, now.  I think at that moment in webdev history, it served a purpose,
which was ease of entry in to development.  Now, it's a liability, seems

RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

+1

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 17 March 2014 22:40
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


CF should install locked down out of the box, there really should be no need
to follow a complex lockdown guide to make it secure.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Justin Scott
leviat...@darktech.orgwrote:


  On another hand, why Adobe hasn't change the way CF is installed if 
  its not safe?

 Layers... it's all about layers.  If a vulnerability is found in the 
 CF admin or some other exposed piece, you don't want an attacker to be 
 able to take over the whole operating system.  The lockdown guide 
 shows you how to configure everything around CF so that in the event 
 of a breach you're not letting it be a path into your entire server.
 Many of the vulnerabilities found in CF wouldn't be a big deal if 
 people configured the server CF runs on in a more secure manner.  This 
 is the whole reason the credit cards companies bang the PCI-DSS drum 
 so hard... they want multiple layers of security and access controls 
 so that the failure of any one of those layers will not leave the 
 entire system out in the open.


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RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail

2014-03-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

And why is it such a pain in the rear to keep CF up to date/patched?  

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] 
Sent: 17 March 2014 21:50
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail


 and then when their site gets owned, CF gets the blame.

On another hand, why Adobe hasn't change the way CF is installed if its not
safe?




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Testing

2014-01-01 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Testing .. please ignore.

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RE: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are stolen

2013-12-04 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

All payment information is more often not held by the retailer, but by the
gateway.

In the UK this saves retailers money as they don't need to register for such
a high level under the Data Protection Act.

With the Paypal system, for example, all the retailer needs store for a
recurring/subscription payment is the customers email address.

-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 26 November 2013 14:36
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are
stolen


It was not.

Also, vendors do not need to store entire CC numbers for recurring
subscription payments. IIRC, they can store last four, expiration date,
number from back of card(?), and an auth token provided to them by payment
processing gateway on first charge.


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades 
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:


 Because your CC subscription is a revolving subscription?

 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Community Professional
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer  
 http://cutterscrossing.com


 Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010

 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desk
 top-style-user-interfaces/book

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it

 On 11/26/2013 6:44 AM, John M Bliss wrote:
  I received emails stating that my password may have been stolen. 
  Nothing about card number.
 
  Why would Adobe have been storing my entire card number anyway? I'm
 pretty
  sure that's just bad infosec.
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades  
  cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:
 
  Really? I received my letter a month ago, and three separate emails 
  the week that the breach was announced, each informing me that I 
  must reset my password, and explaining why. In fact, they 
  immediately reset the password of every account affected. Did you 
  not have to change your password? Did you not get those early 
  missives warning you of the
 breach?
 
  Steve 'Cutter' Blades
  Adobe Community Professional
  Adobe Certified Expert
  Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer  
  http://cutterscrossing.com
 
 
  Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010
 
 
 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desk
 top-style-user-interfaces/book
 
  The best way to predict the future is to help create it
 
  On 11/26/2013 6:07 AM, Mike K wrote:
  We all heard about the Adobe security disaster here,  but finally now,
 OVER A MONTH later,   Adobe have finally got around to informing me
  that
  my credit card info and other details were stolen, possibly 
  creating an identity theft issue for me.
 
  And they thought so much about it, and were SO concerned for my
 security,
  they didnt even bother to sign the letter.
 
  I have my email address on file because I'm a Creative Cloud
 subscriber,
  but did they send me a warning that way?   NO!  Merely sent a letter
by
  snail mail on 13 October and couldn't even put a name to the 
  person
  sending
  it.
 
  I dont have many complimentary words for these *^$#@@s.
 
 
 
 
 

 



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RE: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are stolen

2013-12-04 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Mike,

Log every single communication.

Date/time/who you spoke to/their job title/department/their direct line
number/email address.

Create a group in your email client and add every email address you get and
every time you email them, email it to every address you have.

You need the name of every first line support op. you spoke to, speak to at
least two supervisors.  Try and get to a supervisors boss.

Then, do exactly the same in the complaints department.

Adobe probably publish somewhere the names of key personnel up the chain.
See what names you can find.  Most peoples' email addresses follow a set
format in corporates.  J.Joe@  JohnDoe@  Try a few, you'll be bound to nail
them.

By the time you have done all of this you should have a mail list of about a
dozen people who you hit with every single email.

Oh, and it works, I've done it many times.

Very best of luck!

-Original Message-
From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 03 December 2013 23:50
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are
stolen


Thanks everyone for your suggestions.   @Jochem, I had no idea about that
escalation address.   Thanks for that.@Dave Watts, as always a
thoughtful and considered response.  I have actually done all those things,
with some success, as you'll see if you read on.   @Russ, I took your
approach with the next guy I had on the live chat - I imagine he has some
eloquent names for me now. @Mac,  I am now looking at alternatives to
the Creative Cloud.It's clear that if anything goes wrong with my
relationship with Adobe, or anything happens to Adobe,  I'm screwed.
(Based on the state of the Australian Adobe, it's not far-fetched to
consider them disappearing entirely from the landscape).

And thanks to @Ray Camden for offering to step up and go to bat on my
behalf.  It's not his role there and not a problem of his causing, but he
volunteered to try to fix it for me.


First of all,I cannot talk to ANYONE at Adobe on the phone.
 Australians cant call US 1800 numbers  they dont work.   and anyway I
can't call internationally on my mobile phone.  I dont have a big enough
mortgage.   I have been trying to call someone in the Australian end of
Adobe for almost a month, and you can never get through to anyone.   They
dont answer the phone.   All you get is a message bank,  and then they
don't call back.

Secondly, I have already gone up the support tree several times to what the
person on the live chat window says was the appropriate team.  (when i
ask what the name of that team is,  I dont get an answer.)   I have had a
bucket full of promises and assurances that came to nothing.   It will all
be fine within 24 hours I've been repeatedly assured, only to see nothing
happens - 3 days later I'm still getting the you have xx days before your
subscription lapses. message.

Thirdly,  I never store my files on the cloud exclusively.  I will do my own
backups and have control of what happens to them,  and have a backup on
the cloud as double indemnity.I'm talking about being able to start
Photoshop,  Fireworks,  Edge, Dreamweaver, Audition etc.   With no Creative
Cloud subscription valid, they will stop or be crippled.

Fourthly,  the situation is now resolved.   I got pretty aggressive in yet
another online chat (the only way I can interact with Adobe - they dont have
any email addresses published so I can't send emails and can't phone them),
because if I can't run Audition before my radio show starts I'm in
deep trouble preparing it. Radio has very inflexible deadlines.   I
felt a bit sorry for the poor support guy on the end of the chat because he
copped it all.   It wasn't his fault but where else could I apply any
pressure to get this resolved since I couldn't talk to anyone on the phone
and until Jochem gave me the email address, I had no way to communicate by
email either? To his credit, he remained calm although I am sure he was
swearing at me behind the keyboard, and he told me someone from the
appropriate team would call me.   I demanded that the call be NOW while I
am here and that he remain on the chat until its resolved.   To my
surprise, someone did indeed call me right then and we got the matter
resolved.   My credit card is processed and my Creative Cloud
subscription is once again current.

And they've given me 2 months free as compensation. I feel its pretty
small compensation given the amount of billable time I've wasted extracting
empty promises and assurances from Adobe, but it's something so I'll live
with that.


The base problem is this:
[A]  if my credit card payment didnt go through the first time,  I should
have had an email informing me, and they should have attempted the charge
again a few days later.   That's what everyone else in the world does.
[B] I shouldn't have  had to update my account details in order to prompt a
re-billing.  The details were correct.  It's an account I keep a 

RE: Check an email domain

2013-10-10 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Claude,

I use CFX_validEmail.  Sample code below.  It is reliable, but because of
the time outs it can take a long time on large tables.

Some stuff in the code related to how I was using it, of course, but I think
it will help rather than hinder so I've left it intact.

Hope this helps,
Jenny

CFX_ValidEmail QUERY=QUERY_NAME 
COLUMN=EMAIL_TO_CHECK 
IDCOLUMN=ID_COLUMN 
NAME=results
MXTIMEOUT=5
SMTPTIMEOUT=5
FROMADDRESS=s...@email.com 
MXLOOKUP
USEMXCACHE
USESMTPCHK
CLEARMXCACHE

cfdump var=#results#

cfoutput query=results
cfquery datasource=#application.dsn#
update tbl_members
set emailVerify = '#results.smtpchk#', emailVerifyMessage =
'#results.SMTPRESPONSE#'
cfif results.smtpchk is yes
, emailverified = '#results.address#', emailVerifyDate = getdate()
/cfif
where memberID = #results.idcolumn#
/cfquery
/cfoutput


-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] 
Sent: 10 October 2013 19:26
To: cf-talk
Subject: Check an email domain


Hi,
I just lost about 2 hours digging in my mail server logs to find why a user
did not get his message sent by CF to finally find out the guy entered a
typo in his domain name...

So, I know that verifying that an email address exists is utopic, but
verifying that at least some mail server exists for a certain domain name
would have saved me 2 hours this morning!

Is someone aware of some tool that will check for a mail server from CF?

Thanks.




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RE: Check an email domain

2013-10-10 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

NSlookup is good if you only need to know the server.  CFX_ValidEmail also
checks if the use exists.  I use it to avoid duff mail addresses producing
spam triggers, it can save a user needing a registration confirmation email
- which can cause spam triggers themselves.

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] 
Sent: 10 October 2013 21:38
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Check an email domain


 You need to use nslookup

Yes, this is what I end up doing.
Here is a function that returns the name of the mail server id there is on,
or an empty string if there is not.
(tested on Windows)


CFFUNCTION NAME=nslookup
   CFARGUMENT NAME=domain REQUIRED=yes TYPE=string
   CFEXECUTE name=c:\windows\system32\nslookup.exe
   arguments= -type=mx #domain#
   variable=this.nslookup
   timeout=10 /
   CFSET n = findNoCase (mail exchanger = , this.nslookup)
   CFIF n EQ 0
 CFRETURN 
   CFELSE
 CFRETURN mid (this.nslookup, n+17, )
   /CFIF
/CFFUNCTION

CFOUTPUThouseoffusion.com = #nslookup(houseoffusion.com)#BR
homeoffusion.com = #nslookup(homeoffusion.com)# /CFOUTPUT





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RE: Cold Fusion source code stolen from Adobe in Cyber attack

2013-10-05 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Like you, finding it hard to be sympathetic, lol

-Original Message-
From: Nick Gleason [mailto:n.glea...@citysoft.com] 
Sent: 05 October 2013 01:51
To: cf-talk
Subject: re: Cold Fusion source code stolen from Adobe in Cyber attack


Very distressing but I guess the positive way to look at it is a belated
open source strategy.  
;-)

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RE: NY Area Recruiters

2013-05-01 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

http://www.jobsearch.co.uk/jobs/uk/coldfusion?sl=mxs=locationIds=csrfToke
n=4dbd290b-4076-4466-ac6b-71683071dc5bas=false_employerType=mns=sal=k2=
rows=ref=sortField=SCORE_DESCont=truest=PER_YEAR_contractHours=_contr
actType=ja=1+yeardist=16093

This UK site has more CF jobs in the US than in the UK, lol

-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 April 2013 00:06
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: NY Area Recruiters


55 here http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=coldfusionl=NY


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM, cfprogram...@mail.com wrote:


 Yes, I've been on this list since forever. I normally don't break 
 protocal, but there have been no responses. If there are no recruiters 
 in NY seeking incredible CF programmers it should be a concern to us 
 all. That could indeed be a sign of the state of CF.

 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Dinowitz
 Sent: 04/29/13 06:21 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: NY Area Recruiters

 Please limit job request posts to the cf-jobs list (which you have 
 already posted to). Thanks -- Michael Dinowitz On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 
 4:44 PM,  cfprogram...@mail.com wrote:   Any recruiters working 
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RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

You believe them if you want to.  The courts tend not to.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 18 April 2013 05:22
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?


 I said,  tired of helping them feed me adverts.  They base the 
 adverts they feed on everything they know about the target.

 I keep my data backed up.

 Dave, I spent 30 years in IT and most of it as an IT manager.  I get by.

 Seems to chose to ignore most of what I said .

No, I didn't ignore any of what you said. I just pointed out that Google
Apps for Business doesn't contain ads, and Google doesn't use your Apps for
Business email to figure out how to serve you ads. Their terms of service
prevent them from doing this.

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RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

What concerns me about using any Google product is just how much they know
about me and my life.

They have already been fined on numerous occasions for the inappropriate
collection of personal data and I am getting a little tired of helping them
feed me adverts.

I like my data to be on my computers where it is perfectly safe.

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 17 April 2013 15:28
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 Are you saying that your Gmail, through the Gmail browser interface 
 out-performs a locally installed, copy of Outlook?


I find that is definitely does outperform it. Opening Chrome with GMail as a
default tab is faster then opening Outlook. Searching my mail is WAY faster
in GMail than in outlook.


 Just one annoyance with online interfaces is the trying to delete emails.


I thought the entire point of this thread started because you didn't want to
delete things, you wanted to KEEP things. Once I started using GMail I
pretty much stopped deleting emails entirely unless they were friendly spam
like monthly newsletters.

But, at times when I do want to delete things, say to make more space in my
account, it's very easy to search for all messages with attachments larger
than X, and then select all  delete all.

What is it about deleting in a web interface that annoys you? I don't
understand.

-Cameron

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RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

On my Gmail the spam is originated by Google!

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 17 April 2013 17:36
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?


Due to Gmails good anti-spam you do not have to do much deleting.
If you click the check box next to 10 emails, then go in and read one of
them, when you return those 10 emails will still be checked, it does
remember it.
You can also select multiple emails in 2 clicks (same as outlook)

click the first checkbox, SHIFT click the next one, and all emails inbetween
will be selected

so the only real difference is that you have to click a delete button
instead of delete key on keyboard.
that costs you like 1 second more max to move the mouse and click delete,
can;t really see how this is hard work i'm afraid ?



On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 Now, I can't say this for ALL interfaces, even Gmail, without some 
 research, which I don't want to do for the sake a constructive 
 discussion, but most of the time, I've found that I have to delete 
 emails by checking their box or by clicking delete.
 In Outlook, for example, I can run down a few dozen emails and save 
 those I want to folders, and just hit the delete key to get rid of 
 those I don't want to save. Very fast. (Perhaps I tried the Delete key 
 on the web interfaces, perhaps not... not sure)

 Yes, I can review subjects and check boxes as I go, then delete those 
 I don't want to read, but, if I recall correctly, if I check emails 
 for deletion, but then decide to read one after checking said boxes, 
 then when I return to the view displaying the subject line, the 
 previously checked boxes are typically unchecked, requiring me to 
 re-check the emails for deletion. I would prefer an AJAX solution with 
 a little red X that I click and the email fades away.

 But my discussion began with a concern about being able to archive 
 conversations, in conversation view (and yes, I would like the archive 
 to display by Message ID, and not by Subject as Outlook does. It's 
 HIGHLY ANNOYING when all messages with the same subject like Website
 get lumped into the same conversation.


 -Original Message-
 From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:28 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?


 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

  Are you saying that your Gmail, through the Gmail browser interface 
  out-performs a locally installed, copy of Outlook?
 

 I find that is definitely does outperform it. Opening Chrome with 
 GMail as a default tab is faster then opening Outlook. Searching my 
 mail is WAY faster in GMail than in outlook.


  Just one annoyance with online interfaces is the trying to delete
emails.


 I thought the entire point of this thread started because you didn't 
 want to delete things, you wanted to KEEP things. Once I started using 
 GMail I pretty much stopped deleting emails entirely unless they were 
 friendly spam like monthly newsletters.

 But, at times when I do want to delete things, say to make more space 
 in my account, it's very easy to search for all messages with 
 attachments larger than X, and then select all  delete all.

 What is it about deleting in a web interface that annoys you? I don't 
 understand.

 -Cameron

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RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I said,  tired of helping them feed me adverts.  They base the adverts
they feed on everything they know about the target.

I keep my data backed up.

Dave, I spent 30 years in IT and most of it as an IT manager.  I get by.

Seems to chose to ignore most of what I said .

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 18 April 2013 02:25
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?


 What concerns me about using any Google product is just how much they 
 know about me and my life.

 They have already been fined on numerous occasions for the 
 inappropriate collection of personal data and I am getting a little 
 tired of helping them feed me adverts.

Google Apps is a product that you pay for, and it has completely different
terms of service than free Google products. Google Apps for Business users
do not get ads. Google Apps for Business user data is not used
inappropriately, per the terms of service. Google Apps has been certified
for use by the US federal government, which has pretty strict rules about
these sorts of things. Google Apps is used by banks, medical firms, law
firms, accounting firms - all companies with strict rules about PII, data
sharing, etc, etc.

 I like my data to be on my computers where it is perfectly safe.

You've never lost any data? Never had a computer fail? It seems to me that
we must have completely different ideas of perfectly safe.

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RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources

2013-04-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I finally solved this.

I exported the site configs from DW.

Copied a working site configs to a new file.  Imported the file and edited
it to the site with the problem and it works.

I would really like to understand exactly what the problem is/was, but this
works for now.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 16 April 2013 16:44
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources


are you sure the CFIDE is reachable on the URL you have specified in the RDS
settings. If this is your local machine, you should only need to specify
http://localhost/ as that is where the cfadmin resides by default


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:


 Hi Russ,

 It shows the config sequence.  The RDS login seems to work fine in 
 that the password is accepted.

 Step 5 Create a CF data source has :-

 http://mywebsite /cfide/administrator/datasources/index.cfm

 But the database don't list.



 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
 Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources


 does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ?


 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear  
 jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:

 
  Hi all,
 
  My setup is:-
 
  DW CS3
  CF MX 7
  Windows 7 WS
  Windows 2003 development server
  MS SQL 2000 database
  Local area network
 
  I am having a problem with DW CS3.
 
  A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving.
 
  When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's 
  old) binding I get :-
 
  In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate 
  the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source.  To do this, 
  press the plus
  (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable.
 
  When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none 
  are seen in the drop down.
 
  I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I 
  can't see any difference in the setup.
 
  I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from 
  within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced)
 
  I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files 
  into a new directory.
 
  I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config.
 
  I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I 
  haven't missed something obvious - very rusty.
 
  Any ideas as to what is wrong, please?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jenny
 
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CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources

2013-04-16 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

My setup is:-

DW CS3
CF MX 7
Windows 7 WS
Windows 2003 development server
MS SQL 2000 database
Local area network

I am having a problem with DW CS3.

A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving.

When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old)
binding I get :-

In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the
variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source.  To do this, press the plus
(+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable.

When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen
in the drop down.

I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see
any difference in the setup.

I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within
DW. (menu, Site = Advanced)

I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new
directory.

I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config.

I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't
missed something obvious - very rusty.

Any ideas as to what is wrong, please?

Thanks,

Jenny

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RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources

2013-04-16 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Russ,

It shows the config sequence.  The RDS login seems to work fine in that the
password is accepted.

Step 5 Create a CF data source has :-

http://mywebsite /cfide/administrator/datasources/index.cfm

But the database don't list.



-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources


does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ?


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:


 Hi all,

 My setup is:-

 DW CS3
 CF MX 7
 Windows 7 WS
 Windows 2003 development server
 MS SQL 2000 database
 Local area network

 I am having a problem with DW CS3.

 A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving.

 When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) 
 binding I get :-

 In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the 
 variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source.  To do this, press 
 the plus
 (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable.

 When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none 
 are seen in the drop down.

 I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't 
 see any difference in the setup.

 I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from 
 within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced)

 I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into 
 a new directory.

 I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config.

 I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I 
 haven't missed something obvious - very rusty.

 Any ideas as to what is wrong, please?

 Thanks,

 Jenny

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RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources

2013-04-16 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

URL test fails.

I added a virtual web directory to cfide for the web site, then when I click
step 5 it brings up CF admin.


-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources


does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ?


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:


 Hi all,

 My setup is:-

 DW CS3
 CF MX 7
 Windows 7 WS
 Windows 2003 development server
 MS SQL 2000 database
 Local area network

 I am having a problem with DW CS3.

 A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving.

 When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) 
 binding I get :-

 In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the 
 variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source.  To do this, press 
 the plus
 (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable.

 When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none 
 are seen in the drop down.

 I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't 
 see any difference in the setup.

 I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from 
 within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced)

 I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into 
 a new directory.

 I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config.

 I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I 
 haven't missed something obvious - very rusty.

 Any ideas as to what is wrong, please?

 Thanks,

 Jenny

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RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?

2013-04-16 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Rick,

It might be worth taking a look at Act!

It is possible to integrate Act! and Outlook so that all email relating to a
client record in Act! is automatically pulled in from Outlook and stored.
Attachments are handled, too.

Act! is a really good contact management system, so as well as
storing/organising your emails, it will help you manage your clients, too.

Cheers,
Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: 16 April 2013 02:05
To: cf-talk
Subject: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?


I've been trying to find a good way to store email
*from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail
you need sometimes...)

I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote to One Note, but
nothing works easily or automatically.

Just wondering if anyone has tried this.  I found nothing about it when
searching the Internet.

Rick





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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

It's better than dead.  Great marketing slogan!  Have you sent it to
Adobe?  Lol


-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 18 March 2013 14:19
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


FWIW, there have been several competitors to CFML that have come out over
the years, but they never really became popular, I bet you have not even
heard of most of them, they certainly never get mentioned anywhere and most
of them have already died, so it shows that CFML isn't doing too bad when
you compare it to those.

A couple that come to mind are
iHTML
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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Try IBM, or Olivetti . and most others?

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From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 March 2013 20:32
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


As someone who has had to make IT purchasing decisions for several large
corporations and government agencies over the years, I only hope Abobe never
mimics Oracle's marketing strategy.  Those folks are sharks, relentless to
the point where I banned them from the office at one company.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote:

 For some time now I have thought a rebranding would be rather 
 beneficial. A lot of places I work at the very name Coldfusion seems 
 to be the biggest issue.  It definitely is not the cost of the 
 software being an issue and they all buy the Enterprise version because of
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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

That's what Olivetti did to me.  Can't mention the clients name, but very
well known, and for a 7 figure sum.  I went to meet my contact and as I
strolled down the corridor I was shocked to see my Olivetti dealership rep.
coming towards me.  The Olivetti guy was supposed to be supporting our
dealership to win the tender, instead of which they tendered directly as a
manufacture.  Would have been nice to know as I wasted six month on it.

Anyhoo .. way OT ... 

-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 March 2013 21:12
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


Oh, I've dealt with all of them over the years.  Oracle is the worst.
Akamai is second.  I was dealing with one of their staff as a consultant
representing my client, and she actually had the temerity to go behind my
back directly to the client, which ultimately cost her the deal, because the
client was more ethical than she was and called me promptly to let me know
what she was doing.


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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

So CF is a great for getting into development for newbies, but expect to
pay an enterprise level price.  And if you are an enterprise, then you'll
probably using something else anyway because you won't really need a
newbie product.

I recognise I'm not at the level on CF that many of you are here, but I have
been able to develop quite nice eCommerce and CMS applications.  What I
don't like so much is that all I need, pretty much, is about 50% of what CF
can do, having bought into a get started easily product, yet I'm still
stuffed with enterprise level prices.

IMO, CF has failed to identify where it actually sits in the market and to
offer a range of functionalities and price tag that match.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 15 March 2013 14:27
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


 programming. CF does what you need with server-side programming. But 
 server-side application development tools are basically a commodity 
 at this point. You can do anything with anything. There's nothing I 
 can

 not quite. make sure you're sitting down  not drinking anything, then 
 check the price of an arcGIS server license (inside the US, prices 
 outside the US might make your head explode). plus you need at least 
 one desktop seat (about the same cost as enterprise cf) just to manage
your arcGIS servers.

 in large enterprise projects that make use of that kind of server 
 platform, cf's relatively cheap  a very nice fit especially where you 
 have to dip into java libs to get stuff done, run off reports, etc.

Yeah, my comparison was aimed at general-purpose server-side programming
environments, not stuff like arcGIS. And CF is definitely cheap for
enterprise software - and that might actually be a problem in the
enterprise, as people in the enterprise often equate cost with value.
(There's no other explanation I have for the continued success of Oracle.)

If you compare CF to ASP.NET, or to common J2EE environments, or to PHP, CF
is easier to use, but not so much easier that everyone's going to switch to
it from those other things.

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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Ray,

I can see that to a developer that Adobe page looks incredibly sexy.

The problem being that it is not always (usually not?) the developers who
hold the purse strings.

Many times in this list over the last few years I have seen threads from
developers asking for help in selling CF to customers or their management.
Why the hell isn't Adobe doing this for them already??

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 March 2013 21:58
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


Oh I think the home page is great.

http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html

If you meant the _Adobe_ home page, I think it is great too, but I'm
probably biased. ;) I can't see many coders going to adobe.com looking for
random development languages. I think the audience is totally different.





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  Maybe they would just Google it.

 Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page.


 



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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

+1  ;)

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: 17 March 2013 14:48
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF running out of steam


+1

Adobe Marketing is the failure... I see almost nothing on that front.
I receive email newsletters constantly from Microsoft Evangelists who tout
the conferences, tutorials, and benefits of Microsoft's offering. I rarely
(never these days) receive ANYTHING from Adobe that discusses any of the
above from an Adobe perspective. Adobe has content and human resources to be
far more of  push organization that it is.  They seem to miss the
fundamental perspective that I preach to my clients all the time. Push your
benefits and products to current and prospective clients. Don't sit back and
wait for them to come to you. There are *ALWAYS* others waiting to fill that
void that's created and take the business which could be yours if they
simply are significantly aware of what you offer and its benefits.

Adobe fails at the most fundamental marketing strategy:
Developing Top-of-mind awareness.

And let's face it...

1) When Microsoft talks, people listen.
2) When Adobe talks, people listen.
3) When developers talk, people don't listen.

And the fact is...

Microsoft talks...
Microsoft developers don't have to.

Adobe doesn't talk...
Adobe developers have to do the talking.
See point three above.

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:12 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF running out of steam


Hi Ray,

I can see that to a developer that Adobe page looks incredibly sexy.

The problem being that it is not always (usually not?) the developers who
hold the purse strings.

Many times in this list over the last few years I have seen threads from
developers asking for help in selling CF to customers or their management.
Why the hell isn't Adobe doing this for them already??

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 March 2013 21:58
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


Oh I think the home page is great.

http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html

If you meant the _Adobe_ home page, I think it is great too, but I'm
probably biased. ;) I can't see many coders going to adobe.com looking for
random development languages. I think the audience is totally different.





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  Maybe they would just Google it.

 Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page.


 







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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-17 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Roger,

I take all of your points on board, but it is still frustrating to be trying
to sell a product that the manufacturer does not seem particularly
interested in selling itself - let alone the business model for the product
being wrong in the first place.

Jenny

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From: Roger Austin [mailto:raust...@nc.rr.com] 
Sent: 17 March 2013 15:37
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


As fun as a discussion like this is, I would caution people to avoid basing
your career off of one product or system. No matter who you work for, you
are a small business with one employee.
Make decisions about your capabilities with that in mind. Be objective about
decisions that are out of your control. You should have at least one plan B.
Never stop learning new things inside and outside of programming.

I remember the discussion when CF changed from very low cost to an
enterprise price (V3-V4?). I gave it up and went with ASP since it was
free. The same discussions about price were happening back then. I don't
know the answer, but CF has had a lot of resilience. (I ended up back in CF
once I started using corporate servers.)

The main thing anyone can do is be active in the CF community, but be
realistic. Nothing lasts forever. What would realistically happen to CF
developers if Adobe canned ColdFusion? Most enterprises that use it would
keep it running for a while and employ people to rewrite applications
eventually. I don't know how long Adobe will keep ColdFusion, but I assume
for some time in the future.

Don't let something out of your control define your future (or at least
hedge your bets.) The development landscape changes every few years. You
have time to deal with it if you stay informed on trends.
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RE: CF running out of steam

2013-03-13 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

It is too expensive and its main competition is free.

It's not just expensive for business running their own servers, it is
expensive for hosting companies too.

Adobe missed the boat years ago to give it away either free or at a student
price.  When I talk to potential customers, none of them have heard of it
and it puts up a barrier.

I agree that customers worry that if I was ever not around, who could they
find to help them, this loses me too many potential customers and even
existing customers I have worked with for years have the same underlying
concerns.

Even the upgrade prices are extortionate and what we actually get in an
upgrade often isn't that big a deal to MOST developers.  Since version 7 the
only feature I have come to need that is in a current product is EXIF
extraction.

There is almost a complete lack of applications in developed with CF.  Look
a PHP applications:  phpBB, WordPress, osCommerce - here are some more:-
http://blog.fedecarg.com/2008/05/22/20-most-influential-open-source-web-appl
ications/

Google for Coldfusion applications:-
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=ensclient=psy-abq=copldfusion+applicationsoq
=copldfusion+applicationsgs_l=hp.3..0i13l2j0i13i30j0i13i10i30.91106.93524.2
.93995.13.12.0.0.0.2.153.1513.0j12.12.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.Xpivj0a2
0Topbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.bvm=bv.43287494,d.d2kfp=d76e512bfb3860c7b
iw=1680bih=893

Don't get me wrong, I love Coldfusion, but I can't see it lasting unless
Adobe do something drastic to get the ball rolling - I don't see that
happening, and even if they did, it is probably too late.

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Sent: 14 March 2013 00:14
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF running out of steam


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Space in a Struct Key

2013-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Getting very rusty, can't remember how to access a key in a struct that has
a space in it.

Example:-
imageMetaData.exif.Focal Length

How would I cfoutput that, for example?

Would someone put me out of my misery, please?

Thanks,
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RE: Space in a Struct Key

2013-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

This fails:-
cfoutput#[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]#/cfoutput

and I am sure I tried every other combination except the right one.

You can see the structure here:-
http://gallery.fasttrackonline.co.uk/admin/images/test.cfm

CF7, if that makes any difference.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 06 March 2013 22:20
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Space in a Struct Key


Structname[your key]

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wrote:


 Getting very rusty, can't remember how to access a key in a struct 
 that has a space in it.

 Example:-
 imageMetaData.exif.Focal Length

 How would I cfoutput that, for example?

 Would someone put me out of my misery, please?

 Thanks,
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RE: Space in a Struct Key

2013-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Could kick myself,  thought I had tried that.

Thanks Dave.

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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: 06 March 2013 23:18
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Space in a Struct Key


 This fails:-
 cfoutput#[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]#/cfoutput

 and I am sure I tried every other combination except the right one.

 You can see the structure here:-
 http://gallery.fasttrackonline.co.uk/admin/images/test.cfm

If the structure is imageMetaData, and it has a key called exif, you could
refer to it either of these ways:

imageMetaData.exif
imageMetaData[exif]

If the exif key is also a structure, you could refer to it either of these
ways:

imageMetaData.exif[Focal Length]
imageMetaData[exif][Focal Length]

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RE: Space in a Struct Key

2013-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Many thanks, Jeff.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Garza [mailto:j...@garzasixpack.com] 
Sent: 06 March 2013 23:18
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Space in a Struct Key


If you are going to use bracket notation, you need to use quotes for struct
keys that are not variables.

#[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]# - Coldfusion will be looking for a
variable called exif.

Try this instead:
#imageMetaData[exif][Focal Length]# should work.

--
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 Original Message 
 From: Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk
 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:14 PM
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: RE: Space in a Struct Key
 
 This fails:-
 cfoutput#[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]#/cfoutput
 
 and I am sure I tried every other combination except the right one.
 
 You can see the structure here:-
 http://gallery.fasttrackonline.co.uk/admin/images/test.cfm
 
 CF7, if that makes any difference.
 





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RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM

2013-03-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Mark,

Thank you, it sounds like a great idea, but I don't have a clue how to go
about that.

Jenny

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Sent: 03 March 2013 12:45
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM


Hi

I am late into the conversation but the library that you need, can you get
the source? You might be able to compile and export the jar for the version
of java that you require. 

Just a thought. 

Regards
Mark Drew
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 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to using an application that needs a later version of the 
 JDK than the 1.4 (default) on my server.
 
 I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available.  After 
 changing the JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am wondering 
 which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will support,
please?
 
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RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM

2013-03-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Russ,

Thanks for the idea, Railo is an option I've been thinking about for a long
while.

I'm worried about how compatible existing code will be on the other sites I
run.  I looked at the Railo info about augmentation to tag functions. Is it
purely additional and optional functions or would I need to make a lot of
changes?

I couldn't find which version of the JDK the current Railo is using, anyone
know, please?

Thanks, 
Jenny

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Sent: 03 March 2013 10:19
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM


If upgrading cf is not an option, why not give railo a try.

Regards
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 On 3/3/2013 8:40 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
  I found an old posting from Dave Watts indicating CF7 doesn't 
  support JDK 1.6.

 if you 100% need the stuff from the lib version 2.5  beyond, you have 
 no choice but to upgrade cf or use another java lib that works w/java 
 1.4.2 like maybe sanselan (as mentioned before in this thread):

 http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-imaging//download_sanselan.cg
 i

 but make sure it supports the EXIF data you need.

 i've  worked w/sanselan before to write EXIF  in comparison drew's 
 metadata extractor lib is a whole lot easier to use.




 



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RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM

2013-03-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Paul,

I had a look at sanselan, but I can't see any examples of the output to know
this will get the metadata I need.

The key things are image Title/Description/Keywords and the standard EXIF
stuff like shutter speed/ISO/aperture, etc.

Thanks,

Jenny

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From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] 
Sent: 03 March 2013 03:01
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM


On 3/3/2013 8:40 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
 I found an old posting from Dave Watts indicating CF7 doesn't support 
 JDK 1.6.

if you 100% need the stuff from the lib version 2.5  beyond, you have no
choice but to upgrade cf or use another java lib that works w/java 1.4.2
like maybe sanselan (as mentioned before in this thread):

http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-imaging//download_sanselan.cgi

but make sure it supports the EXIF data you need.

i've  worked w/sanselan before to write EXIF  in comparison drew's metadata
extractor lib is a whole lot easier to use.






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RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM

2013-03-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks, Paul, it sounds good.  I wish there were some examples of its usage.

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Sent: 03 March 2013 18:25
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM


On 3/4/2013 12:17 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
 I had a look at sanselan, but I can't see any examples of the output 
 to know this will get the metadata I need.

 The key things are image Title/Description/Keywords and the standard 
 EXIF stuff like shutter speed/ISO/aperture, etc.

yup it appears to. it has getEXIF(),getPhotoshop()  getGPS() methods which
at first glance return data similar to metadata-extractor.





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RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM

2013-03-02 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Paul,

Unfortunately, I need Version 2.5.0-RC1 to get the metadata  that I need.

The code you very kindly prepared is perfect for pure EXIF and works fine
with 2.4.

2.5.0-RC1 adds a lot more metadata support and it's the Photoshop and
additional IPTC tags I will need.

2.5.0-RC1 - Released 9 May 2011

New metadata support
Added support for XMP metadata
Added support for Photoshop metadata embedded in Jpeg files
Added support for ICC colour profiles
Added support for JFIF metadata
Added many more tags to IPTC directory

I tried out 2.2.5-RC1 and get the error:-
500 com/drew/imaging/ImageMetadataReader (Unsupported major.minor version
50.0)

Can anyone confirm that this error is because JDK 1.6 or greater is needed,
please?

From info I have Googled, this seems to indicate this version of the library
needs JDK 1.6 or later.

I have searched Google and Adobe support and I can't find any information on
which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion will support.

Can anyone point me in the direction of where to find info about CF 7 and
which JDKs it will support?

Many thanks,
Jenny


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Sent: 02 March 2013 02:43
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM


On 3/2/2013 9:24 AM, Justin Scott wrote:

 I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available.  After 
 changing the JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am 
 wondering which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will
support, please?

no idea but pretty sure there's an older version of the java lib you're
using that supports 1.4.2.  move the goal posts.





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RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM

2013-03-02 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I found an old posting from Dave Watts indicating CF7 doesn't support JDK
1.6. 

Unfortunately, CF 7 doesn't support JDK 1.6. So, if you do this, some
things may not work. But I'm not sure what exactly won't work, so if
your code is pretty simple it might work fine for you.

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From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] 
Sent: 03 March 2013 01:35
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM


Hi Paul,

Unfortunately, I need Version 2.5.0-RC1 to get the metadata  that I need.

The code you very kindly prepared is perfect for pure EXIF and works fine
with 2.4.

2.5.0-RC1 adds a lot more metadata support and it's the Photoshop and
additional IPTC tags I will need.

2.5.0-RC1 - Released 9 May 2011

New metadata support
Added support for XMP metadata
Added support for Photoshop metadata embedded in Jpeg files
Added support for ICC colour profiles
Added support for JFIF metadata
Added many more tags to IPTC directory

I tried out 2.2.5-RC1 and get the error:-
500 com/drew/imaging/ImageMetadataReader (Unsupported major.minor version
50.0)

Can anyone confirm that this error is because JDK 1.6 or greater is needed,
please?

From info I have Googled, this seems to indicate this version of the library
needs JDK 1.6 or later.

I have searched Google and Adobe support and I can't find any information on
which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion will support.

Can anyone point me in the direction of where to find info about CF 7 and
which JDKs it will support?

Many thanks,
Jenny


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Sent: 02 March 2013 02:43
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM


On 3/2/2013 9:24 AM, Justin Scott wrote:

 I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available.  After 
 changing the JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am 
 wondering which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will
support, please?

no idea but pretty sure there's an older version of the java lib you're
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2013-03-01 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

I am trying to using an application that needs a later version of the JDK
than the 1.4 (default) on my server.

I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available.  After changing the
JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am wondering which is the
latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will support, please?

Many thanks,
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RE: EXF Photo Information

2013-02-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Justin,

It's great to see this in CF8, but unfortunately it doesn't provide all the
metadata I would need,

If you have ever used Photoshop or Lightroom, you can edit the File Info.
This means the photog can add a lot of information to the image, such as
Description, keywords, copyright, etc.  When the file is uploaded to Flickr,
for example, this information is read and it saves any need to rekey.  It
means where ever the image lands up, this information doesn't get detached.

Many thanks,

Jenny



-Original Message-
From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] 
Sent: 26 February 2013 00:06
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information


 even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out 
 of imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if 
 you don't mind dipping down into java  can add a java lib to your cf 
 classpath that's probably your best bet. maybe:
 http://drewnoakes.com/code/exif/

ColdFusion 8 (sorry Jenny, this won't help you on CF7) introduced a function
specifically to extract EXIF data called ImageGetEXIFMetaData().  You
basically read in a JPEG image and pass it to the function and it returns a
structure of whatever it can extract.  Pete Freitag has a blog post with an
example at http://www.petefreitag.com/item/657.cfm.


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RE: EXF Photo Information

2013-02-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Paul,

My skills are purely in CF, I'm not a programmer as such. Is there a simple
way I can go about using this java lib, please?

I can use a bit of Javascript, would this be enough?

Many thanks,

Jenny

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From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] 
Sent: 25 February 2013 06:45
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information


On 2/25/2013 9:34 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
 I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a 
 photographer.  I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so 
 I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information?

even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out of
imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if you don't
mind dipping down into java  can add a java lib to your cf classpath that's
probably your best bet. maybe:


http://drewnoakes.com/code/exif/







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RE: EXF Photo Information

2013-02-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Paul,

Many thanks indeed.  I can see the general idea of your code, but it is way
beyond me.

Would it be very easy to create a cf tag from this that would take an image
and output the exif data, etc?

Thanks again,

Jenny

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From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] 
Sent: 28 February 2013 02:27
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information


oops, that code was for cf10  used some undocumented stuff. this might work
better for cf7.

cfscript
// path to image on server
path=c:\cyclingTrips\khlong13\coffinService.jpg;
// lib wants java IO file so...
imgFile=createObject(java,java.io.File).init(path);
metadataReader=createObject(java,com.drew.imaging.ImageMetadataReader);
metadata=metadataReader.readMetadata(imgFile);
exifDirs=metadata.getDirectories();
for (i=1; i LTE arrayLen(exifDirs); i++) {
   writeoutput(bDir: #exifDirs[i].getName()#/bbr);
   tags=exifDirs[i].getTags();
   for (j=1; j LTE arrayLen(tags); j++) {
 writeoutput(#tags[j].getTagName()# :: #tags[j].getDescription()#
br);
   }
   writeoutput(br);

}   
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RE: EXF Photo Information

2013-02-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Russ,

Imagemagick is great, I've been using it for many years. Unfortunately all
it does in relation to exif is use it to rotate an image correctly.

Many thanks,

Jenny

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From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 22:05
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: EXF Photo Information


Try imagemagick, this does a lot more than cfimage and uses java library

Regards
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 Hi Paul,

 My skills are purely in CF, I'm not a programmer as such. Is there a 
 simple way I can go about using this java lib, please?

 I can use a bit of Javascript, would this be enough?

 Many thanks,

 Jenny

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com]
 Sent: 25 February 2013 06:45
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information


 On 2/25/2013 9:34 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
  I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a 
  photographer.  I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, 
  so I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF
 information?

 even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out 
 of imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if 
 you don't mind dipping down into java  can add a java lib to your cf 
 classpath that's probably your best bet. maybe:


 http://drewnoakes.com/code/exif/







 



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RE: EXF Photo Information

2013-02-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Justin,

Not looking to spend on a CF upgrade over one site :)

Upgrades are far too expensive, imo.

Thanks,
Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 22:40
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information


 It's great to see this in CF8, but unfortunately it doesn't provide 
 all the metadata I would need,

 If you have ever used Photoshop or Lightroom, you can edit the File Info.
 This means the photog can add a lot of information to the image, such 
 as Description, keywords, copyright, etc.  When the file is uploaded 
 to Flickr, for example, this information is read and it saves any need 
 to rekey.  It means where ever the image lands up, this information
doesn't get detached.

In that case you would use imageGetIPTCMetaData() instead (on CF8 and above,
of course).


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RE: EXF Photo Information

2013-02-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks for the reply, cfimage doesn't really cover it.

The EXIFs can store all of the camera settings when the shot was taken,
photo title/photographer/keyboards/decroiption and author, copyright, and a
lot more.

With sites like Flickr and Zenfolio, they will read this from the
photograph.  So the photo only has to prepare an image once and wherever it
is uploaded that information will be automatic.



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From: AJ Mercer [mailto:ajmer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 February 2013 03:10
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information


you can try CFIMAGE action=info
https://github.com/getrailo/railo/wiki/Documentation:4_0:Tags:cfimage



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jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.ukwrote:


 Hi all,

 I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a 
 photographer.  I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so 
 I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information?

 If this isn't possible with CF, perhaps it could be done with Railo?

 I'd appreciate any ideas/solutions/pointing in the right direction.

 TIA,
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RE: EXF Photo Information

2013-02-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks Paul, this looks very promising.  Will be posting to the project to
see how far they plan to go.  An API would be fine.

Cheers, Jenny

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Sent: 25 February 2013 06:45
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information


On 2/25/2013 9:34 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
 I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a 
 photographer.  I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so 
 I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information?

even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out of
imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if you don't
mind dipping down into java  can add a java lib to your cf classpath that's
probably your best bet. maybe:


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EXF Photo Information

2013-02-24 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a
photographer.  I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so I am
wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information?

If this isn't possible with CF, perhaps it could be done with Railo?

I'd appreciate any ideas/solutions/pointing in the right direction.

TIA,
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RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000

2013-02-19 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Rob,

It is working fine now, many thanks for your reply.

CF just wasn't retrieving past the 64000 value set in admin.  I really
should have spotted it.

Cheers,
Jenny

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From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 February 2013 15:48
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000


So, the data is fine in the db, but not displaying all of it?  What does the
variable look like upon retrieval?  Is there something odd in the data that
it's causing the truncation?
On 2013-02-18 10:39 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk
wrote:


 Actually, looking at it again.  It's not the writing of the data, it's 
 the retrieval, so no actual truncation takes place?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk]
 Sent: 18 February 2013 15:28
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000


 Hi Rob,

 Thanks for your reply.  I'm getting rusty!  I forgot to enable long 
 text retrieval on a new server.

 Cheers,
 Jenny

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 18 February 2013 13:49
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Truncating pages SQL 2000


 Jenny,

 There is a limit on the amount of text that can be written to the 
 database in CF.  It's a part of the advanced settings for the database
connection.
 Limit is 65000 characters by default.  You can up that to anything.

 Hope that helps,

 Rob
 On 2013-02-18 8:06 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
 jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk
 wrote:

 
  Hi all,
 
  Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext 
  field, either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way?
 
  I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and 
  the content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to 
  determine whether this was user error, or if it could have happened 
  in
 any
 other way.
 
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Truncating pages SQL 2000

2013-02-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext field,
either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way?

I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and the
content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to determine
whether this was user error, or if it could have happened in any other way.

Many thanks,
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RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000

2013-02-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Rob,

Thanks for your reply.  I'm getting rusty!  I forgot to enable long text
retrieval on a new server.

Cheers,
Jenny

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From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 February 2013 13:49
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Truncating pages SQL 2000


Jenny,

There is a limit on the amount of text that can be written to the database
in CF.  It's a part of the advanced settings for the database connection.
Limit is 65000 characters by default.  You can up that to anything.

Hope that helps,

Rob
On 2013-02-18 8:06 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk
wrote:


 Hi all,

 Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext 
 field, either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way?

 I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and the 
 content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to 
 determine whether this was user error, or if it could have happened in any
other way.

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RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000

2013-02-18 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Actually, looking at it again.  It's not the writing of the data, it's the
retrieval, so no actual truncation takes place?

-Original Message-
From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] 
Sent: 18 February 2013 15:28
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000


Hi Rob,

Thanks for your reply.  I'm getting rusty!  I forgot to enable long text
retrieval on a new server.

Cheers,
Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 February 2013 13:49
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Truncating pages SQL 2000


Jenny,

There is a limit on the amount of text that can be written to the database
in CF.  It's a part of the advanced settings for the database connection.
Limit is 65000 characters by default.  You can up that to anything.

Hope that helps,

Rob
On 2013-02-18 8:06 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk
wrote:


 Hi all,

 Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext 
 field, either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way?

 I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and the 
 content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to 
 determine whether this was user error, or if it could have happened in any
other way.

 Many thanks,
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CF 7 + Apps .. minimum ram

2012-12-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I'm setting up a testing server.  

CF7, SQL 2005.  Can someone tell me the minimum RAM required please?  It
doesn't have to set any records

Thanks,
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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-02 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

LOL .. whoops .. didn't realise it was so long since I checked the list!



-Original Message-
From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 November 2012 19:26
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs


You do realize that the post you replied to is 6 months old, right?


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:


 I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of 
 time, usually an hour to a day does it.

 This was my security policy as an IT Manager and it is working fine on 
 my dedicated server.

 Hope this helps!

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com]
 Sent: 02 May 2012 13:51
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: (ot) Blocking IPs


 I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he 
 is in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS 
 attacks, repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of 
 my clients who do international business that some people cannot 
 access their sites other parts of the world, like places in Asia, the 
 Middle East, South and Central America, etc. I'm not surprised at the 
 complaints.

 Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-02 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

LMAO !

:P

It's cruel to mock the afflicted ;)

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From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 November 2012 23:30
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs


That sir, made my day. Classic.

G!

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  I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some 
  length of time, usually 6 months does it.

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RE: (ot) Blocking IPs

2012-11-01 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of time,
usually an hour to a day does it.

This was my security policy as an IT Manager and it is working fine on my
dedicated server.

Hope this helps!

-Original Message-
From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] 
Sent: 02 May 2012 13:51
To: cf-talk
Subject: (ot) Blocking IPs


I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is in
the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks,
repeated port scans, etc.  I've had complaints from some of my clients who
do international business that some people cannot access their sites other
parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central
America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints.

Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous?



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CFINVOKE - Component Location

2012-05-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

I'm trying to work out how to point to the file location of a component
using cfinvoke.

I am storing all of the component files for my application in one directory
which is one step off the web root.

Many thanks in advance,

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RE: CFINVOKE - Component Location

2012-05-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Ray,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes I could use a cfmapping, however 

I'm a bit confused as I thought the cfmappings were for accessing files
outside the web root or its sub-directories.

I read By default, ColdFusion MX defines a mapping for the web root (/).
You can define additional mappings to allow access to pages outside of the
web root.  So I don't understand why I can't use this default mapping- I
realise I can't bit I also realise I need to understand why.

I created a cfmapping pointing to a directory inside the webroot of the
application called /gallerycomponents.

Then I tried running the cfinvoke as follows, but it appears I have some
syntax wrong.

cfinvoke component=/gallerycomponents/functions.cfc method=getTags

I read up in your book, CF 7 Construction Kit, that a mapping can be used
when invoking the component, but there wasn't a syntax example using a
mapping.

Thanks,

Jenny

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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 May 2012 16:51
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location


Can you use a cfmapping?

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 I'm trying to work out how to point to the file location of a
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 I am storing all of the component files for my application in one
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RE: CFINVOKE - Component Location

2012-05-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks Bobby, sorted.

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Sent: 03 May 2012 17:41
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location


Try component=gallerycomponents.functions




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RE: CFINVOKE - Component Location

2012-05-03 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks Matt.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 May 2012 17:36
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location


You'll want to use dot notation. So, using your example of
/gallerycomponents/functions.cfc, you'd do the following:

cfinvoke component=gallerycomponents.functions method=foo /

HTH


On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear 
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:


 Hi Ray,

 Thanks for your reply.

 Yes I could use a cfmapping, however 

 I'm a bit confused as I thought the cfmappings were for accessing
 files outside the web root or its sub-directories.

 I read By default, ColdFusion MX defines a mapping for the web root
(/).
 You can define additional mappings to allow access to pages outside of
 the web root.  So I don't understand why I can't use this default
 mapping- I realise I can't bit I also realise I need to understand why.

 I created a cfmapping pointing to a directory inside the webroot of
 the application called /gallerycomponents.

 Then I tried running the cfinvoke as follows, but it appears I have
 some syntax wrong.

 cfinvoke component=/gallerycomponents/functions.cfc
 method=getTags

 I read up in your book, CF 7 Construction Kit, that a mapping can be
 used when invoking the component, but there wasn't a syntax example
 using a mapping.

 Thanks,

 Jenny

 -Original Message-
 From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 03 May 2012 16:51
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location
 
 
 Can you use a cfmapping?
 
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear
 jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I'm trying to work out how to point to the file location of a
  component using cfinvoke.
 
  I am storing all of the component files for my application in one
  directory which is one step off the web root.
 
  Many thanks in advance,
 
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RE: CF 10 Release

2012-04-20 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I'd bet dollars, but not real money ;) lol


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Sent: 17 April 2012 14:28
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 10 Release


Anybody want to take a bet with me? ;)

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(ot) Maillist with API

2012-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

Apologies for the completely OT posting, but I'm in desperate need for a
solution.

Until recently I have been hosting a discussion maillist for one of my
customers.  Subscription is required for membership of the list and there is
also an opt-in option on the member profile.  So on a daily basis the
subscriber list is recompiled based on subscriptions.

I need to move the mail list off my own mail server and I am looking for a
host with an API (or some other interface, could be SOAP) facility to manage
the subscriber list.

Any ideas please?


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RE: (ot) Maillist with API

2012-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Will and Russ,

Many thanks for your replies!

I was looking at Mailchimp, but is it only a broadcast/newsletter service or
does it support discussion lists with moderators, etc?  I can't find
anything about discussion mail lists on their site.

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com]
Sent: 06 March 2012 11:36
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API


We've looked at both MailChimp and Campaign Monitor, both of whom have
mature APIs and offer similar functionality. I'd recommend either.

Will

On 6 March 2012 11:29, Jenny Gavin-Wear
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.ukwrote:


 Hi all,

 Apologies for the completely OT posting, but I'm in desperate need for
 a solution.

 Until recently I have been hosting a discussion maillist for one of my
 customers.  Subscription is required for membership of the list and
 there is also an opt-in option on the member profile.  So on a daily
 basis the subscriber list is recompiled based on subscriptions.

 I need to move the mail list off my own mail server and I am looking
 for a host with an API (or some other interface, could be SOAP)
 facility to manage the subscriber list.

 Any ideas please?


 Jenny Gavin-Wear
 Fast Track Online
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RE: (ot) Maillist with API

2012-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Dave,

I had a look at Google Groups hoping for an API.

It seems they are revamping it and there is currently no API.  There is an
option to use the all new and sparkling Google Groups, but much of the
interface is still in development.

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: 06 March 2012 19:14
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API


 sorry must have misread, if your looking for discussion lists then
 there is always google apps which gives you google groups using your own
domain.

Yes, and Apps does have an API that lets you do quite a bit.

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RE: (ot) Maillist with API

2012-03-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Brian,

I looked at Topica, but it appears to be a marketing mail list service, not
discussion mail list, or am I wrong?

Also, I couldn't see any evidence of an API?

Many thanks,

Jenny

-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 March 2012 00:38
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API


I used Topica for many clients... Pricing and whitelisting is about the
same as
mailchimp or api.jangomail.com

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jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote:

 Hi Dave,

 I had a look at Google Groups hoping for an API.

 It seems they are revamping it and there is currently no API.  There
 is an option to use the all new and sparkling Google Groups, but much
 of the interface is still in development.

 Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: 06 March 2012 19:14
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API


 sorry must have misread, if your looking for discussion lists then
 there is always google apps which gives you google groups using
 your own
domain.

Yes, and Apps does have an API that lets you do quite a bit.

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(ot) Nivo slideshow

2011-12-15 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

I am sure I am doing something daft.  Images are not sliding and I am
getting the following error:-

Error: $(#slider).nivoSlider is not a function
Source File:
http://chesterfield-fc-trust.fasttrackonline.co.uk/concept/untitled1.cfm
Line: 17

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
titleUntitled Document/title
link rel=stylesheet href=nivo-slider.css type=text/css media=screen
/

!--- jquery ---
script
src=http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.4.2/jquery.min.js;
type=text/javascript/script
script src=jquery.nivo.slider.pack.js type=text/javascript/script

!--- on load ---
script type=text/javascript
$(window).load(function() {
$('#slider').nivoSlider({
});
});
/script
/head
body

!--- slide show ---
div id=slider class=nivoSlider
img src=/pageart/stadium-1200.gif width=1200 height=200 /
img src=/pageart/stadium-1200-1.gif width=1200 height=200
title=This is an example of a caption /
img src=/pageart/stadium-1200-2.gif width=1200 height=200 /
/div
/body
/html

Thanks in advance for showing me where I've gone wrong!

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RE: (ot) Nivo slideshow

2011-12-15 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Gerald and Dean,

Many thanks, working fine now!

Jenny

-Original Message-
From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com]
Sent: 15 December 2011 19:01
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: (ot) Nivo slideshow


Jenny,

The page is not finding the jquery.nivo.slider.pack.js file. Make sure
your
path is correct.

Dean

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 getting the following error:-

 Error: $(#slider).nivoSlider is not a function Source File:
 http://chesterfield-fc-trust.fasttrackonline.co.uk/concept/untitled1.c
 fm
 Line: 17

 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
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Puzzling error

2011-12-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly throwing
a java error, any ideas anyone, please?

cfset delay = 1 
cfset sTime = gettickcount()
cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay
/cfloop

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RE: Puzzling error

2011-12-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Many thanks to Dave, Mark and Jonah for your replies.

To be honest, I wasn't very happy with my solution in the first place.  The
solution was to wait for a file to be thumb-nailed before deleting a
temporary file that had been uploaded.

I am using this as a substitute:

cfset waitforthis =
#application.webroot#file-store-user\#session.userID#.gif
cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0
/cfloop

So I check for a new file to exist before deleting the upload.

-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: 11 December 2011 23:31
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Puzzling error


OR you could just use sleep()!

Available since CF 8.
http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/6/15/cf8_hidden_gem
_sleep_function

Much better than spinning really fast in a loop.

Cheers,
.jonah

On 12/11/11 11:22 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:
 This looks odd to me. I think I would likely do

 You are asking conditional loop renderer to evaluate gettickcount
 over and over... a function call instead of a primitive.

 Usually I see something set - like timeCounter - inside of the loop
 for the next iteration... like so:

 cfset delay = 1
 cfset sTime = gettickcount() + delay/

 cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime
 ...do something...then

 cfset sTime = sTime + (getTickcount()-sTime)/

 /cfloop

 Usually something inside the loop controls how to break out of the loop.

 What kind of error are you seeing?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:25 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Puzzling error


 I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly
 throwing a java error, any ideas anyone, please?

 cfset delay = 1
 cfset sTime = gettickcount()
 cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay /cfloop

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RE: Puzzling error

2011-12-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks Jonah .. nice finish :)


-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: 12 December 2011 00:19
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Puzzling error


That makes sense. You may want to add some sleep() so you don't have to
hit the disk too often.

cfset waitforthis = #application.webroot#file-store-
user\#session.userID#.gif/

cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0
  cfset sleep(250) /
/cfloop




On 12/11/11 3:40 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
 Many thanks to Dave, Mark and Jonah for your replies.

 To be honest, I wasn't very happy with my solution in the first place.
 The solution was to wait for a file to be thumb-nailed before deleting
 a temporary file that had been uploaded.

 I am using this as a substitute:

 cfset waitforthis =
 #application.webroot#file-store-user\#session.userID#.gif
 cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0 /cfloop

 So I check for a new file to exist before deleting the upload.

 -Original Message-
 From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
 Sent: 11 December 2011 23:31
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Puzzling error


 OR you could just use sleep()!

 Available since CF 8.

http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/6/15/cf8_hidden_g
 em
 _sleep_function

 Much better than spinning really fast in a loop.

 Cheers,
 .jonah

 On 12/11/11 11:22 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:
 This looks odd to me. I think I would likely do

 You are asking conditional loop renderer to evaluate gettickcount
 over and over... a function call instead of a primitive.

 Usually I see something set - like timeCounter - inside of the
 loop for the next iteration... like so:

 cfset delay = 1
 cfset sTime = gettickcount() + delay/

 cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime
  ...do something...then

  cfset sTime = sTime + (getTickcount()-sTime)/

 /cfloop

 Usually something inside the loop controls how to break out of the
loop.

 What kind of error are you seeing?

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 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:25 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Puzzling error


 I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly
 throwing a java error, any ideas anyone, please?

 cfset delay = 1
 cfset sTime = gettickcount()
 cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay  /cfloop

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RE: Puzzling error

2011-12-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Just realised Sleep is CF 8 .. I'm on 7 ..



-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: 12 December 2011 00:19
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Puzzling error


That makes sense. You may want to add some sleep() so you don't have to
hit the disk too often.

cfset waitforthis = #application.webroot#file-store-
user\#session.userID#.gif/

cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0
  cfset sleep(250) /
/cfloop




On 12/11/11 3:40 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:
 Many thanks to Dave, Mark and Jonah for your replies.

 To be honest, I wasn't very happy with my solution in the first place.
 The solution was to wait for a file to be thumb-nailed before deleting
 a temporary file that had been uploaded.

 I am using this as a substitute:

 cfset waitforthis =
 #application.webroot#file-store-user\#session.userID#.gif
 cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0 /cfloop

 So I check for a new file to exist before deleting the upload.

 -Original Message-
 From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
 Sent: 11 December 2011 23:31
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Puzzling error


 OR you could just use sleep()!

 Available since CF 8.

http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/6/15/cf8_hidden_g
 em
 _sleep_function

 Much better than spinning really fast in a loop.

 Cheers,
 .jonah

 On 12/11/11 11:22 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:
 This looks odd to me. I think I would likely do

 You are asking conditional loop renderer to evaluate gettickcount
 over and over... a function call instead of a primitive.

 Usually I see something set - like timeCounter - inside of the
 loop for the next iteration... like so:

 cfset delay = 1
 cfset sTime = gettickcount() + delay/

 cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime
  ...do something...then

  cfset sTime = sTime + (getTickcount()-sTime)/

 /cfloop

 Usually something inside the loop controls how to break out of the
loop.

 What kind of error are you seeing?

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 www.cfwebtools.com
 www.coldfusionmuse.com
 O: 402.408.3733 x105
 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com
 Skype: markakruger

 -Original Message-
 From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:25 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Puzzling error


 I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly
 throwing a java error, any ideas anyone, please?

 cfset delay = 1
 cfset sTime = gettickcount()
 cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay  /cfloop

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RE: Puzzling error

2011-12-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Kym,

Yes please and thank you!

Jenny

-Original Message-
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Sent: 12 December 2011 01:52
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Puzzling error


On 12/12/2011 12:47, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote:

 Just realised Sleep is CF 8 .. I'm on 7 ..

32 bit? There is a CFX_Sleep which does the same task.

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RE: Changing the Mail/Spool folder

2011-11-25 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Good to know ..

It could even mean a RAM Disk could potentially be config'd for better
performance.


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To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Changing the Mail/Spool folder


That's awesome, thanks Russ :)

 -Original Message-
 ok I found it for you.

 look in neo-mail.xml

 for these 2 values

 var
 name='undeliverdir'string{neo.rootdir}/Mail/Undelivr/string/var
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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-24 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

+ 1 for Matt's reply.

FCK doesn't do a great job of cleaning up word text .. do a view source ..


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Sent: 25 October 2011 01:20
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor



I recommend that people only copy and paste from notepad. Extra html
that gets in there from any other source can wreak havoc on the final
output.

-Matt

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's exactly what I thought. In fact I found a solution how 
to get rid of
 the error message. I appreciate the reply!
 On Oct 24, 2011 5:41 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:


 the copy and paste is a firefox security setting, they are going to
 get it with any WYSIWYG editor.The message actually tells you how to
 get rid of it if I recall.
 it is however very easy to bypass, you can drag and drop text or right
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Error message

2011-10-20 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi all,

I'm trying to pin down the cause of the following error in the application
log.

Element is undefined in a Java object of type class
coldfusion.runtime.CookieScope referenced as 

The code it points to is:-

cfif isdefined(form.email) and len(form.email) and
isdefined(form.password) and len(form.password) and
isdefined(form.remember) and val(form.remember)
cfcookie name=email value=#form.email# expires=30
cfcookie name=password value=#form.password# expires=30
cfcookie name=remember value=1 expires=30
/cfif

It occurs quite rarely, perhaps 2-3 times a day.

TIA for any suggestions,


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RE: Error message

2011-10-20 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Many thanks Robert,

I've added some extra verification to the data being written to the cookie,
will see how that goes.

I suspect it is happening when a spam bot hits the form and the data being
provided isn't valid.

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Sent: 20 October 2011 15:34
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Error message



It appears you are allowing user to enter some values then
storing them as cookies. The error you are showing looks like it
may be a syntax error in the CF code where some line is not
seeing the values correctly. This could happen if you get a stray
 or stray # in your user values somewhere and aren't handling
them correctly...

Are you handling special characters like  and # in your user
entry fields?  I'd check that. Try putting some values containing
 or # in your entry fields and see if that can duplicate the
error.  Try starting a value with  also.

That isn't necessarily the cause, but it's a possiblilty.

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Encrypt / UrlEncode

2011-10-14 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I took a string, encrypted it and then url encoded.

0%3FJ%3FYBBR6-%3BE%2F)ANL%2F%3AR 5   %0A

I'm not sure why the result was a string which contains spaces.

Any ideas, please?


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RE: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-14 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Hi Dave,

I am familiar with form protect, nice solution.

However, these emails can be anywhere in a body of text created with the
CMS.  (fckeditor/ntext.)

I'm playing with this roughly coded idea:-

cfset myContent = you can see my email address myem...@home.com is inside
a string
cfoutput
Before: #myContent#br
br
cfloop from=1 to=#listlen(myContent, )# index=I
cfif isvalid(email,listgetat(myContent, I,  ))
cfset myEmail = #listgetat(myContent, I,  )#
cfset temp = #encrypt(myEmail,'ukasfp')#
cfset temp = urlencodedformat(temp)
cfset myContent = replace(myContent, myEmail, 'a
href=contact-form-page.cfm?email=#temp#click here/a')
/cfif
/cfloop
After: #myContent#br
br
br
/cfoutput

But I'm getting spaces in the urlencoded value.  I am thinking it's the
encryption params I'm using?




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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: 15 October 2011 00:39
To: cf-talk
Subject: Fwd: Hiding email address from spiders



  How about the honeypot method
  Anyone have any experience with this highly efficient,

 I have used it and several others like it such as naming a
hidden form field
 emailaddress and  tracking cookies from page to page and other
methods and
 it does reduce automated bots but does not eliminate them. The bots
 generally read a form and then brute force attack it filling out or not
 filling out fields to bypass this exact method.  While I fully agree in
 principal that the form protection should be transparent the
use of a simple
 3-5 characters short and legible captcha has so far been the
absolute best
 deterrent to automated bots that I have found.

Have you used CFFORMPROTECT? I've found that to work very well, with
the added bonus that it's not a deterrent to real users the way a
CAPTCHA is.

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RE: Encrypt / UrlEncode

2011-10-14 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

That's excellent, thank you Justin, exactly what I need :)

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-Original Message-
From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org]
Sent: 14 October 2011 15:41
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Encrypt / UrlEncode



 I took a string, encrypted it and then url encoded.

Encrypted strings can contain all sorts of interesting characters and
using URLEncodedFormat() isn't generally recommended for passing an
encrypted string through the URL.  Use the toBase64() function to
base-64 encode it, THEN use URLEncodedFormat() and pass that through
to the URL instead.  It will be a lot cleaner and prevent the
encrypted string from becoming malformed in transit which could lead
to problems decrypting it later.  On the receiving end, decode the
base-64 format back to another variable and you'll be all set:

cfset original = toBinary(url.my_base_64_value) /


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RE: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-08 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks, Bobby, exactly along the lines I am thinking.

The mail address for me has no mailto:, it's just contained in a string.
I'm wondering if I'll have to check the whole string for the existance of an
email address by looping through each word, or if there is an
easier/faster way?

For example, this code would find the string.  However, I don't know if I
can use a regular expression, for example, to rereplace the string with
ascii?  (Never used regex before...)

Or could I use a regular expression to search AND replace the email address
with ascii on the whole string, which would be a lot faster?

cfset mystring = this is the email address myaddr...@home.com that I use
cfset mynewString = 
cfoutput
cfloop from=1 to=#listlen(mystring,  )# index=I
cfif  isvalid(email, listgetat(mystring, I,  ))
!--- now set this to ascii ---
#listgetat(mystring, I,  )#br
cfelse
cfset mynewString = #mynewString# #listgetat(mystring, I,  )#
/cfif
/cfloop
#mynewString#
/cfoutput


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-Original Message-
From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com]
Sent: 08 October 2011 04:09
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Hiding email address from spiders



Here is a page with an example of the source:

http://cf4em.com/cf4em/index.cfm?mainaction=postsforumid=2threadid=63

The last post has my email address in the last sentence. This is what the
source of that mailto link looks like:

a
href=#109#97#105#108#116#111#58#98#111#98#98#121#64
#99#102#
52#101#109#46#99#111#109#98#111#98#98#121#64#99#10
2#52#101
#109#46#99#111#109/a


.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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http://cf4em.com




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RE: Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-08 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

What a strange assumption to make.

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-Original Message-
From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz]
Sent: 08 October 2011 15:15
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Hiding email address from spiders




 In all honesty though, if someone submits some text to their 
own site that
 they know is going to be displayed and it has email addresses 
in it, they
 probably don't care much about the subject.


Too right.




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Hiding email address from spiders

2011-10-07 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I have a client using a CMS I've built and they are using a lot of email
addresses in the content.

As I can search/replace content, I am wondering what is the best way to
hide them from the spiders?

tia,

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RE: Outputting telephone numbers

2011-10-06 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I hope you never format mine like that ;)

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Sanders [mailto:r...@webenergy.ca]
Sent: 06 October 2011 16:49
To: cf-talk
Subject: Outputting telephone numbers



Sorry for the newbie question. For the life of me I can't see 
anywhere how to output a telephone number from a database that 
stores a number like 2125551212 to display as (212) 555-1212.

Thanks.

Kind Regards,

[WebLogomailsig]
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RE: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed???

2011-10-04 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Interesting .. Josh, any good links on the subject you could point me to,
please?

TIA,

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-Original Message-
From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:joshnathan...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 October 2011 17:53
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed???

If you want to get really jiggy with it, you can use a Gateway on
the server
side and connect to it using long polling or web sockets.  This
will push
server changes to any connected clients immediately.

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RE: Paypal integration

2011-09-28 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Thanks Roger

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-Original Message-
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Sent: 27 September 2011 19:36
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Subject: RE: Paypal integration



There was a presentation at NCDevCon by Sidney Maestre of PayPal.
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Paypal integration

2011-09-27 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Buy now button (form submission).

Does anyone know if it is possible to use the form to specify a different
IPN url?

I'm currently using the URL specified in the Merchant Services section of
the customer's account, but it would save me a lot of time if I could
specify it using the form instead.

Thanks in advance,

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