Scheduler directory missing.
Hi guys, long time no speak. Hardly doing any CF work these days, but still looking after a couple of long time customers on CF 7. I know it's old (ok, ancient), but it does what I need it to do. I've hardly touched the CF 7 install in years. Today I went to check a scheduled tasks and the entire /scheduler directory is awol. I suspect because I hid it from hackers so well that I can't find it! Is it possible to run a CF7 reinstall to recover this directory without overwriting my existing installation and configuration? Thanks, Jenny ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360297 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Scheduler directory missing.
Thanks, Dave. Could I install on another server and just copy the directory over? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 26 March 2015 17:54 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Scheduler directory missing. Is it possible to run a CF7 reinstall to recover this directory without overwriting my existing installation and configuration? No, I don't think so, but you could export your existing configuration first then reinstall and import the configuration. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360299 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Scheduler directory missing.
Thanks .. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 26 March 2015 18:45 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Scheduler directory missing. Thanks, Dave. Could I install on another server and just copy the directory over? Without testing it myself I can't say for sure, but I think it probably would work just fine. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor- authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:360308 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Is time for a change?
I'd be interested to know which route you decide to take. I stopped taking on new clients about 2 years ago. I now look after only 3 and their bandwidth requirements are small. They've all been with me for a very long time and do produce a useful bit of income. My setup now is a windows 2003 server with CF7 / SQL 2000. Old, I know, but it works and there has been nothing of use to me in the upgrades, certainly nothing to make it worth me paying the crazy upgrade costs. The server sits in my garage on a business broadband line, not ideal, I know this, especially as my garage has been converted into a headshot studio for my photography business! I don't have time for the major hassle of porting my sites from CF7 to whatever CF is on now. I also integrating one of the sites quite heavily into my SmarterMail server, such as automated generation of mail list members and I pull the contents of one of the mail lists into an archive made available on the website. Ideally I'd like to get everything shifted to a VPS, but would I be able to run these old applications? And where could I get an inexpensive yet reliable service? I'd appreciate any ideas, please. -Original Message- From: Rick Eidson [mailto:cfh...@kchost.net] Sent: 08 November 2014 01:48 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Is time for a change? Oh I know all about the email hosting.. .Before I moved to Hostek I had a T1 line into my basement. Did all my own hosting, I had 2 server cabinets with all Dells...(I still have them) pretty good setup. I started my company with that and then the T1 became outdated and very expensive. I used ArgoSoft Mail Server, actually really liked it but the SPAM and Blacklist were a nightmare. But back then my company was bigger with closer to 100 domains/clients. I formed a partnership with another person who pretty much screwed me over. We split up the company (lost a lot of clients in the breakup) and I formed Eidson Empire, LLC. and moved to Hostek for my provider. I still not sure what I am going to do.. I think the VPS will be more than I can afford right now. Maybe if I land about 10 more clients I can justify it. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359610 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe is just a spammer now
Yes you were. It's just not very obvious. It's in the middle of the top area of the screen. Regardless, it should default to unclicked. I wrote to Adobe about this and got a prompt reply promising a change. No change made, no change accepted. But when have Adobe ever listened to user feedback? -Original Message- From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 October 2014 21:08 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe is just a spammer now You can say whatever you like, Eric but i was given NO OPPORTUNITY TO DESELECT the installation of the McAfee product which I definitely DO NOT WANT. I downloaded the flash installer, then ran the installer, and it went right ahead and installed two items - the flash player and then without pause the McAfee crap. Because of the treatment I received from McAfee a few years back, I resolved never EVER to do business with McAfee again, and so it's doubly bad that Adobe force it on me. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yes...you can deselect it...it is a detestable practice that should default to not checked rather than checked. -- ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359510 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe is just a spammer now
Sorry to hear that. Wish I was more surprised. Adobe .. -Original Message- From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 October 2014 22:56 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe is just a spammer now Jenny, thank you for your contribution. I hate to disagree with you, but since I knew the flash installer was going to try to force McAfee on me as it did last time (and really made a mess of my Norton - I had to reinstall that too as a result), I was looking for the checkbox or button so I could decline to install it. . And it didnt appear. I had no choice to not install McAfee. I think there are different versions of the installer, or it offers the choice in some circumstances and not in others.But i DID NOT have the choice to decline installing McAfee. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Yes you were. It's just not very obvious. It's in the middle of the top area of the screen. Regardless, it should default to unclicked. I wrote to Adobe about this and got a prompt reply promising a change. No change made, no change accepted. But when have Adobe ever listened to user feedback? -Original Message- From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 October 2014 21:08 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe is just a spammer now You can say whatever you like, Eric but i was given NO OPPORTUNITY TO DESELECT the installation of the McAfee product which I definitely DO NOT WANT. I downloaded the flash installer, then ran the installer, and it went right ahead and installed two items - the flash player and then without pause the McAfee crap. Because of the treatment I received from McAfee a few years back, I resolved never EVER to do business with McAfee again, and so it's doubly bad that Adobe force it on me. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yes...you can deselect it...it is a detestable practice that should default to not checked rather than checked. -- ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 11
Which should have been in the product 10 years ago. -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: 25 June 2014 17:19 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 11 CF 10 introduces a updater in the CFAdmin, and an auto update function On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Folks Wondering what the advantages of CF11 over CF10 The one thing I am looking for is ease of doing the updates and patches, which is pretty miserable in CF9 Rob Robert J. Voyle, Psy.D. Director, Clergy Leadership Institute For Coaching and Training in Appreciative Inquiry Author: Restoring Hope: Appreciative Strategies to Resolve Grief and Resentment http://www.appreciativeway.com/ 503-647-2378 or 503-647-2382 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358765 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
So cost has nothing to do with it. How enlightening, as ever. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 28 March 2014 17:52 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail sure something may break by being locked down, but as I said earlier, you have 2 choices.. 1. out of the box install, not secure, but your site works just fine.. So nothing to learn unless you choose to. User continues in blissful ignorance. 2. out of the box, locked down and secure, but site may break, so you have to learn something about CF security to get it working. Learning is required and not optional, user has now learnt something new and has a secure system. surely this is a no brainier. This explains why absolutely no one uses Windows web servers. After all, that's how Unix web servers always worked, pretty much. You had to know what you were doing to get them working. I can see now why Windows never got any market share. (note: this is not an endorsement of one or the other, just an observation) Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
Dave, I am curious. Have you ever, even once, changed your mind because of what someone has told you? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 28 March 2014 18:07 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail if you think no-one uses Windows web servers then you are wrong, very wrong. Uh, yeah, I know that. That was my point. It would seem you also think that Windows is not locked down by default, that may have been true once upon a time, but is no longer the case and hasn't been for many years.Certainly since Windows Server 2008, you must specifically choose which roles to install, everything is not installed by default, the firewall is also installed and enabled by default with only the basic required services allowed through and networking is also disabled. I guess you can interpret many years however you like, but the simple fact is, from the beginning and through the majority of the lifespan of Windows servers, this was not the default. And I don't think Windows would have been nearly as popular for servers if it had started out that way. The fact that things worked by default gave Windows market share. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
From what I have learnt from this thread so far, Adobe has actually got worse. -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: 28 March 2014 18:10 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail It's Microsoft's approach ... now. But it took them a long time to get there. You're probably right. The point here is that it is taking even a longer time to Adobe. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
-Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 28 March 2014 18:41 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail I've got bad news for you. Stick this in Google: [product] default vulnerability and prepare to be amazed. Some suggestions: PHP, IIS, Apache. Not all allow remote users to execute arbitrary code, but plenty do. I get it. Because other technologies and applications are bad it's fine for CF to be bad, too. Regardless of how much we have to pay for it. I submit to you that it should not be surprising that products explicitly designed for security purposes, like firewalls and VPNs, will be expected to be secure by default. I submit to you, LOL. Awesome. So, a business invests in all of the security available, such as firewalls, only to have CF open the gates What a brilliant piece of logic. I submit to you, that's screwed up. The notion that it's the sys admins fault if a product installs in an unsecure way beggers belief. No, that's not the sysadmins' fault. But leaving a product at the default install state on an untrusted network - that IS the sysadmins' fault. How is a sysadmin going to make sure that the developers' applications are secured properly, if he doesn't know enough to secure the one web application that's packaged with the product? The long list of security measures that have to take place after a standard CF install are ridiculous. Believe it or not, sys admins have better things to do with their time. Dave, I suggest you wander down to your corporate IT department and offer to help them out for a few days so you get a taste of reality. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10680 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358225 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
+1 -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 28 March 2014 20:42 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail A locked door is useless if you leave the windows open. Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk cfmldeveloper.com cflive.net cfsearch.com On 28 Mar 2014 19:09, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I also once had a client who did this, they were Linux heads who thought that hiding the sucky insecure windows/cf server behind a linux server and doing a reverse proxy would make it secure. There is no such thing as make it secure, of course. But it is more secure. It solves one specific security problem - preventing executable code from being directly accessed from an untrusted network. But of course it didn't as everything still works the same way, the SQL injections still got through, the insecure file upload forms still allowed files to be uploaded, which could then be executed as they had cfexecute and cfregistry enabled. So what you're saying is that, despite the fact that the environment was (more) secure by default, developers accidentally wrote exploitable code? I have the feeling there's some lesson to be drawn from this. I wonder what it is? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
Correcting the installer won't solve all problems, but it should not be the CAUSE of problems. Hey sys admin, I'm going to make your day! Here's an app which we KNOW has security issues and requires a lot of maintenance. You're going to have to become an expert in this new technology, invest even more time patching it and discover security leaks you won't even be informed about, it'll be your job to tell the app vendor about that, too! In addition, the company that produces the application got hacked recently and the hackers got a lot of user data. But we developers, we're not worried about this because if our server gets hacked (through widely published methods well known by the hacker community), it's all YOUR fault! I mean, it's not like you've got anything better to do, is it? *sound of running feet and screaming* -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 29 March 2014 14:23 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail I also once had a client who did this, they were Linux heads who thought that hiding the sucky insecure windows/cf server behind a linux server and doing a reverse proxy would make it secure. There is no such thing as make it secure, of course. But it is more secure. It solves one specific security problem - preventing executable code from being directly accessed from an untrusted network. But of course it didn't as everything still works the same way, the SQL injections still got through, the insecure file upload forms still allowed files to be uploaded, which could then be executed as they had cfexecute and cfregistry enabled. So what you're saying is that, despite the fact that the environment was (more) secure by default, developers accidentally wrote exploitable code? I have the feeling there's some lesson to be drawn from this. I wonder what it is? A locked door is useless if you leave the windows open. I think we might be in agreement! But maybe for different reasons. Setting up application servers to be secure is hard. Ensuring that application code doesn't contain vulnerabilities is hard. And you're not going to be able to solve security problems with an installer. People need to know what they're doing. They need to have a base level of competence at their jobs. No installer in the world is going to idiot-proof web applications. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358235 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
Please send a photo of your world, I'd like to know what colour the sky is? You are telling ME how a sys admin or IT manager does their job? Well thanks. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 29 March 2014 16:50 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail Correcting the installer won't solve all problems, but it should not be the CAUSE of problems The installer is installing an application server. Again, this is inherently dangerous, period, end of story. This particular installer sets up a web application that is needed to configure the server, and has to immediately function in order to complete the installation process. The web application is the source of nearly every CF vulnerability, and has been for many years. In addition, it's very easy to install that web application securely with just a little bit of knowledge, as I outlined previously. And hey! if you install CF 10 today, it gives you a little checkbox called Secure Profile which does exactly what you want! (Assuming that what you want is to limit access to the CF Administrator, disable RDS, require a complex password, disable debugging and detailed error messages, etc, etc.) I'm still not going to rely on that to secure access to CF Administrator, because I prefer to simply block access to it entirely from untrusted networks. But it seems to solve the specific problem you're complaining about. So, honestly, I'm not really sure what you're going on about, other than administrators shouldn't be bothered to learn what they're doing. Hey sys admin, I'm going to make your day! Here's an app which we KNOW has security issues and requires a lot of maintenance. You're going to have to become an expert in this new technology, invest even more time patching it and discover security leaks you won't even be informed about, it'll be your job to tell the app vendor about that, too! Well, honestly, if you set it up correctly in the first place and followed the instructions in the lockdown guide where appropriate, you actually wouldn't have to worry nearly as much about patches. Given that the vast majority of CF vulnerabilities are in the CF Administrator specifically, if you configure access to that correctly you don't have to become an expert, spend a lot of time patching, or discovering security leaks. The same is true for EVERY PIECE OF SOFTWARE YOU EXPOSE TO UNTRUSTED NETWORKS. People used to expose database servers to the public. Whether a database server has known vulnerabilities or not, that's just a bad idea, and anyone who's installing a database server should know better. In addition, the company that produces the application got hacked recently and the hackers got a lot of user data. I'm not sure how that's all that important here. Adobe was not hacked through a CF vulnerability. If you want to find people using CF, you don't need to hack Adobe to get that. There are lots of people who have that data. Admittedly, if you want to find people who bought older versions of CF, that would be easier to get from Adobe, but that wouldn't tell you whether those people are still using CF or whether their servers were set up properly. In addition, that would have nothing to do with what you want Adobe to do now. To the best of my knowledge, Adobe does not possess a time machine, so they can't go back in time to fix problems in old installed systems other than by providing patches. I guess that it's a good thing that administrators don't have to worry about patching anything else. But we developers, we're not worried about this because if our server gets hacked (through widely published methods well known by the hacker community), it's all YOUR fault! I mean, it's not like you've got anything better to do, is it? *sound of running feet and screaming* I'd be interested to hear how security audits work in your organization. On second though, maybe not. If you think vulnerabilities don't exist for other products, through widely published methods well known by the hacker community, I don't know what to tell you. If you install any application that will be exposed to untrusted networks, you are expected to apply basic due diligence. If you cannot do that, you should not be administering that system. And for CF, at least, it's easy to block the widely published methods well known by the hacker community. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358237
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
I can't say I've read every post, but I have read most. One point I'd like to take up is this business of the CF install and security. I've seen all sorts of statements made about sys admins and their duties which as a past sys admin and IT Manager I found interesting. The idea that any application is installed on a server that is open to the internet, or even if used internally, should be installed in such a way that is open to hacking by default is, quite frankly, ridiculous. I have been responsible for corporate level global infrastructures including the use of firewalls, VPNs, etc. If you have ever worked with any high standard product you will be aware that features remained closed by default. You don't install a firewall and find all the ports are open and you have to select which to close, quite the reverse. The notion that it's the sys admins fault if a product installs in an unsecure way beggers belief. I recognise that PHP and .Net aren't exactly perfect, but for CF to have a backdoor entry point as standard in the install is plainly stupid and it has not helped sell CF as an option. Sure, not all sys admins have the sort of skill set one would expect, I have certainly come across a few of these in my 30 years in IT. However, a sys admin has plenty enough to deal with without being having intrinsically bad application installs thrown at him or her. My tuppenth. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10670 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
Exactly. -Original Message- From: Adam Cameron [mailto:dacc...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 March 2014 14:27 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail If it only works on localhost *by default*, then this mitigates most of the problem just like that. -- Adam On 26 March 2014 14:17, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: What I mean is that Adobe recommands that CFIDE should be moved to a safer place, but, after several versions, CFIDE is still installed the same way. Of course it is. If It were somewhere else, you wouldn't be able to administer CF after an out-of-the-box install. It's up to you to understand how web servers and web applications work, and set it up properly after it's installed. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358147 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
Good summary, Rick. Aside from a few customers I still support I'm not looking for more. I found CF very easy to learn because it was a tag based system and I already knew html, it felt familiar. I can just about work out what's going on in a piece of c++, for example, but it's so much easier in CF. I'm strangely sad to leave CF behind, but nothing lasts forever. I do feel that if Adobe had supported the product and marketed it, it would have lasted a little longer and been a lot more fun while it was in it's heyday. One thing that I have noticed is often overlooked. PHP developers generated a LOT of pretty darn good open source applications. CMS, countless eCommerce apps, BBS/forums. I often wonder why so little was done like this by developers for CF. -Original Message- From: Rick Sanders [mailto:r...@webenergy.ca] Sent: 18 March 2014 17:53 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail I come from the days of Everyware and Pervasive using the Tango technology. Same idea as CF being a tag-based language with an application server. Tag-based is easier to learn and has many benefits. When Macromedia bought CF, it was a God-send to integrate CF and Dreamweaver together without having to use Homesite or the bulky Allaire CF editor. Unfortunately, Macromedia bombed when it came to marketing Cold Fusion. Remember Ultradev? Macromedia's response to a WYSIWYG java, html, database application which was supposed to replace Dreamweaver? Macromedia focused too much on Ultradev and ignored the much needed CF marketing. Fast forward to Adobe (The document and printing solutions company) with failing web products to buy Macromedia. Like everyone, I was hoping for a re-brand of CF. Nothing happened. They never marketed it. At a trade show in New York (Internet World) I went to the Adobe booth. No one wanted to talk about CF, and there was one brochure with a paragraph mentioning CF that's it. Adobe came out with Cold Fusion Builder which is sort of nifty, but not nearly as good as Dreamweaver for building CF websites. Now Adobe is pushing their Creative Cloud (copying Office 365 are we?) which I would never use because of the continuous hacks to Adobe's servers and private information breaches. So what are the alternatives? PhP. Not secure, messy code, can't load balance between multiple servers unless you BUY an app server for it. Most PhP hosters throw the web server, database server and email server on the same box and call it a day. I programmed PhP code for a year and will never do it again. The problems with hacking, SQL injection attacks, URL hacks etc... take up time to fix at the developer's expense. PhP, Linux, MYSQL, Cpanel, Wordpress Joomla and many others are free. You get what you pay for. A proper coded CF site won't get hacked if the code is well written and the server is configured properly. There's ASP.net but personally I don't want to program something for 3 months in .NET that takes 3 weeks in CF. Plus Microsoft changes things around way too much, and Visual Studio is stupid expensive. Sure there's Expression web (does anyone really use it?) and some plugins for Dreamweaver. There's Dot Net Nuke if you have lots of time on your hands too. Most of my clients don't want to wait. And .NET developers are the snobs of the development community expecting high hourly rates. Content Management Server was a nice touch if you had deep pockets and lots of staff to maintain multiple servers but Microsoft did away with that too. Is CF dying? It is dying a slow death in my opinion. Adobe has dropped the ball with marketing. Heck, they don't even use it on their own site! PhP is the internet king for programming, and Wordpress is keeping developers making thousands of plugins for it. In the technical colleges and universities they teach PhP, Java, and .NET. New developers aren't even exposed to CF anymore. When you say Adobe, the first 2 things that come to mind are PDF and Photoshop. I'll continue to use CF for as long as I can, then just leave the web development game since the only player is PhP and I don't have the time nor desire to get into that technology. Kind Regards, Rick Sanders T: 902-401-7689 W: www.webenergy.ca -Original Message- From: Jon Clausen [mailto:jon_clau...@silowebworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:32 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFML tags was: The long tail of ColdFusion fail On Mar 18, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Adam Cameron dacc...@gmail.com wrote: Tag-based code is godawful anywhere other than in a view, or some other situation in which text-processing is needed. Which does not describe an awful lot of CFML code out there. That Macromedia/Adobe pushed the tag side of CFML over the script side is probably the worst strategic move they ever made. Agree, now. I think at that moment in webdev history, it served a purpose, which was ease of entry in to development. Now, it's a liability, seems
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
+1 -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 17 March 2014 22:40 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail CF should install locked down out of the box, there really should be no need to follow a complex lockdown guide to make it secure. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.orgwrote: On another hand, why Adobe hasn't change the way CF is installed if its not safe? Layers... it's all about layers. If a vulnerability is found in the CF admin or some other exposed piece, you don't want an attacker to be able to take over the whole operating system. The lockdown guide shows you how to configure everything around CF so that in the event of a breach you're not letting it be a path into your entire server. Many of the vulnerabilities found in CF wouldn't be a big deal if people configured the server CF runs on in a more secure manner. This is the whole reason the credit cards companies bang the PCI-DSS drum so hard... they want multiple layers of security and access controls so that the failure of any one of those layers will not leave the entire system out in the open. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358085 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: The long tail of ColdFusion fail
And why is it such a pain in the rear to keep CF up to date/patched? -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: 17 March 2014 21:50 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: The long tail of ColdFusion fail and then when their site gets owned, CF gets the blame. On another hand, why Adobe hasn't change the way CF is installed if its not safe? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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RE: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are stolen
All payment information is more often not held by the retailer, but by the gateway. In the UK this saves retailers money as they don't need to register for such a high level under the Data Protection Act. With the Paypal system, for example, all the retailer needs store for a recurring/subscription payment is the customers email address. -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 November 2013 14:36 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are stolen It was not. Also, vendors do not need to store entire CC numbers for recurring subscription payments. IIRC, they can store last four, expiration date, number from back of card(?), and an auth token provided to them by payment processing gateway on first charge. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: Because your CC subscription is a revolving subscription? Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desk top-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 11/26/2013 6:44 AM, John M Bliss wrote: I received emails stating that my password may have been stolen. Nothing about card number. Why would Adobe have been storing my entire card number anyway? I'm pretty sure that's just bad infosec. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: Really? I received my letter a month ago, and three separate emails the week that the breach was announced, each informing me that I must reset my password, and explaining why. In fact, they immediately reset the password of every account affected. Did you not have to change your password? Did you not get those early missives warning you of the breach? Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desk top-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 11/26/2013 6:07 AM, Mike K wrote: We all heard about the Adobe security disaster here, but finally now, OVER A MONTH later, Adobe have finally got around to informing me that my credit card info and other details were stolen, possibly creating an identity theft issue for me. And they thought so much about it, and were SO concerned for my security, they didnt even bother to sign the letter. I have my email address on file because I'm a Creative Cloud subscriber, but did they send me a warning that way? NO! Merely sent a letter by snail mail on 13 October and couldn't even put a name to the person sending it. I dont have many complimentary words for these *^$#@@s. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:357287 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are stolen
Hi Mike, Log every single communication. Date/time/who you spoke to/their job title/department/their direct line number/email address. Create a group in your email client and add every email address you get and every time you email them, email it to every address you have. You need the name of every first line support op. you spoke to, speak to at least two supervisors. Try and get to a supervisors boss. Then, do exactly the same in the complaints department. Adobe probably publish somewhere the names of key personnel up the chain. See what names you can find. Most peoples' email addresses follow a set format in corporates. J.Joe@ JohnDoe@ Try a few, you'll be bound to nail them. By the time you have done all of this you should have a mail list of about a dozen people who you hit with every single email. Oh, and it works, I've done it many times. Very best of luck! -Original Message- From: Mike K [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 December 2013 23:50 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe take over a MONTH to advise me my credit card details are stolen Thanks everyone for your suggestions. @Jochem, I had no idea about that escalation address. Thanks for that.@Dave Watts, as always a thoughtful and considered response. I have actually done all those things, with some success, as you'll see if you read on. @Russ, I took your approach with the next guy I had on the live chat - I imagine he has some eloquent names for me now. @Mac, I am now looking at alternatives to the Creative Cloud.It's clear that if anything goes wrong with my relationship with Adobe, or anything happens to Adobe, I'm screwed. (Based on the state of the Australian Adobe, it's not far-fetched to consider them disappearing entirely from the landscape). And thanks to @Ray Camden for offering to step up and go to bat on my behalf. It's not his role there and not a problem of his causing, but he volunteered to try to fix it for me. First of all,I cannot talk to ANYONE at Adobe on the phone. Australians cant call US 1800 numbers they dont work. and anyway I can't call internationally on my mobile phone. I dont have a big enough mortgage. I have been trying to call someone in the Australian end of Adobe for almost a month, and you can never get through to anyone. They dont answer the phone. All you get is a message bank, and then they don't call back. Secondly, I have already gone up the support tree several times to what the person on the live chat window says was the appropriate team. (when i ask what the name of that team is, I dont get an answer.) I have had a bucket full of promises and assurances that came to nothing. It will all be fine within 24 hours I've been repeatedly assured, only to see nothing happens - 3 days later I'm still getting the you have xx days before your subscription lapses. message. Thirdly, I never store my files on the cloud exclusively. I will do my own backups and have control of what happens to them, and have a backup on the cloud as double indemnity.I'm talking about being able to start Photoshop, Fireworks, Edge, Dreamweaver, Audition etc. With no Creative Cloud subscription valid, they will stop or be crippled. Fourthly, the situation is now resolved. I got pretty aggressive in yet another online chat (the only way I can interact with Adobe - they dont have any email addresses published so I can't send emails and can't phone them), because if I can't run Audition before my radio show starts I'm in deep trouble preparing it. Radio has very inflexible deadlines. I felt a bit sorry for the poor support guy on the end of the chat because he copped it all. It wasn't his fault but where else could I apply any pressure to get this resolved since I couldn't talk to anyone on the phone and until Jochem gave me the email address, I had no way to communicate by email either? To his credit, he remained calm although I am sure he was swearing at me behind the keyboard, and he told me someone from the appropriate team would call me. I demanded that the call be NOW while I am here and that he remain on the chat until its resolved. To my surprise, someone did indeed call me right then and we got the matter resolved. My credit card is processed and my Creative Cloud subscription is once again current. And they've given me 2 months free as compensation. I feel its pretty small compensation given the amount of billable time I've wasted extracting empty promises and assurances from Adobe, but it's something so I'll live with that. The base problem is this: [A] if my credit card payment didnt go through the first time, I should have had an email informing me, and they should have attempted the charge again a few days later. That's what everyone else in the world does. [B] I shouldn't have had to update my account details in order to prompt a re-billing. The details were correct. It's an account I keep a
RE: Check an email domain
Hi Claude, I use CFX_validEmail. Sample code below. It is reliable, but because of the time outs it can take a long time on large tables. Some stuff in the code related to how I was using it, of course, but I think it will help rather than hinder so I've left it intact. Hope this helps, Jenny CFX_ValidEmail QUERY=QUERY_NAME COLUMN=EMAIL_TO_CHECK IDCOLUMN=ID_COLUMN NAME=results MXTIMEOUT=5 SMTPTIMEOUT=5 FROMADDRESS=s...@email.com MXLOOKUP USEMXCACHE USESMTPCHK CLEARMXCACHE cfdump var=#results# cfoutput query=results cfquery datasource=#application.dsn# update tbl_members set emailVerify = '#results.smtpchk#', emailVerifyMessage = '#results.SMTPRESPONSE#' cfif results.smtpchk is yes , emailverified = '#results.address#', emailVerifyDate = getdate() /cfif where memberID = #results.idcolumn# /cfquery /cfoutput -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: 10 October 2013 19:26 To: cf-talk Subject: Check an email domain Hi, I just lost about 2 hours digging in my mail server logs to find why a user did not get his message sent by CF to finally find out the guy entered a typo in his domain name... So, I know that verifying that an email address exists is utopic, but verifying that at least some mail server exists for a certain domain name would have saved me 2 hours this morning! Is someone aware of some tool that will check for a mail server from CF? Thanks. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356909 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Check an email domain
NSlookup is good if you only need to know the server. CFX_ValidEmail also checks if the use exists. I use it to avoid duff mail addresses producing spam triggers, it can save a user needing a registration confirmation email - which can cause spam triggers themselves. -Original Message- From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] Sent: 10 October 2013 21:38 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Check an email domain You need to use nslookup Yes, this is what I end up doing. Here is a function that returns the name of the mail server id there is on, or an empty string if there is not. (tested on Windows) CFFUNCTION NAME=nslookup CFARGUMENT NAME=domain REQUIRED=yes TYPE=string CFEXECUTE name=c:\windows\system32\nslookup.exe arguments= -type=mx #domain# variable=this.nslookup timeout=10 / CFSET n = findNoCase (mail exchanger = , this.nslookup) CFIF n EQ 0 CFRETURN CFELSE CFRETURN mid (this.nslookup, n+17, ) /CFIF /CFFUNCTION CFOUTPUThouseoffusion.com = #nslookup(houseoffusion.com)#BR homeoffusion.com = #nslookup(homeoffusion.com)# /CFOUTPUT ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356910 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Cold Fusion source code stolen from Adobe in Cyber attack
Like you, finding it hard to be sympathetic, lol -Original Message- From: Nick Gleason [mailto:n.glea...@citysoft.com] Sent: 05 October 2013 01:51 To: cf-talk Subject: re: Cold Fusion source code stolen from Adobe in Cyber attack Very distressing but I guess the positive way to look at it is a belated open source strategy. ;-) Nick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:356887 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: NY Area Recruiters
http://www.jobsearch.co.uk/jobs/uk/coldfusion?sl=mxs=locationIds=csrfToke n=4dbd290b-4076-4466-ac6b-71683071dc5bas=false_employerType=mns=sal=k2= rows=ref=sortField=SCORE_DESCont=truest=PER_YEAR_contractHours=_contr actType=ja=1+yeardist=16093 This UK site has more CF jobs in the US than in the UK, lol -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 April 2013 00:06 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: NY Area Recruiters 55 here http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=coldfusionl=NY On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:02 PM, cfprogram...@mail.com wrote: Yes, I've been on this list since forever. I normally don't break protocal, but there have been no responses. If there are no recruiters in NY seeking incredible CF programmers it should be a concern to us all. That could indeed be a sign of the state of CF. - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz Sent: 04/29/13 06:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: NY Area Recruiters Please limit job request posts to the cf-jobs list (which you have already posted to). Thanks -- Michael Dinowitz On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:44 PM, cfprogram...@mail.com wrote: Any recruiters working with ColdFusion programmers in the NY City / Long Island area who are interested in working with a highly experienced CF programmer, please reply to this email address with your contact information. Thanks, CFProgrammer ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355639 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
You believe them if you want to. The courts tend not to. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 18 April 2013 05:22 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I said, tired of helping them feed me adverts. They base the adverts they feed on everything they know about the target. I keep my data backed up. Dave, I spent 30 years in IT and most of it as an IT manager. I get by. Seems to chose to ignore most of what I said . No, I didn't ignore any of what you said. I just pointed out that Google Apps for Business doesn't contain ads, and Google doesn't use your Apps for Business email to figure out how to serve you ads. Their terms of service prevent them from doing this. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355501 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
What concerns me about using any Google product is just how much they know about me and my life. They have already been fined on numerous occasions for the inappropriate collection of personal data and I am getting a little tired of helping them feed me adverts. I like my data to be on my computers where it is perfectly safe. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 April 2013 15:28 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Are you saying that your Gmail, through the Gmail browser interface out-performs a locally installed, copy of Outlook? I find that is definitely does outperform it. Opening Chrome with GMail as a default tab is faster then opening Outlook. Searching my mail is WAY faster in GMail than in outlook. Just one annoyance with online interfaces is the trying to delete emails. I thought the entire point of this thread started because you didn't want to delete things, you wanted to KEEP things. Once I started using GMail I pretty much stopped deleting emails entirely unless they were friendly spam like monthly newsletters. But, at times when I do want to delete things, say to make more space in my account, it's very easy to search for all messages with attachments larger than X, and then select all delete all. What is it about deleting in a web interface that annoys you? I don't understand. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355460 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
On my Gmail the spam is originated by Google! -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 17 April 2013 17:36 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? Due to Gmails good anti-spam you do not have to do much deleting. If you click the check box next to 10 emails, then go in and read one of them, when you return those 10 emails will still be checked, it does remember it. You can also select multiple emails in 2 clicks (same as outlook) click the first checkbox, SHIFT click the next one, and all emails inbetween will be selected so the only real difference is that you have to click a delete button instead of delete key on keyboard. that costs you like 1 second more max to move the mouse and click delete, can;t really see how this is hard work i'm afraid ? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: Now, I can't say this for ALL interfaces, even Gmail, without some research, which I don't want to do for the sake a constructive discussion, but most of the time, I've found that I have to delete emails by checking their box or by clicking delete. In Outlook, for example, I can run down a few dozen emails and save those I want to folders, and just hit the delete key to get rid of those I don't want to save. Very fast. (Perhaps I tried the Delete key on the web interfaces, perhaps not... not sure) Yes, I can review subjects and check boxes as I go, then delete those I don't want to read, but, if I recall correctly, if I check emails for deletion, but then decide to read one after checking said boxes, then when I return to the view displaying the subject line, the previously checked boxes are typically unchecked, requiring me to re-check the emails for deletion. I would prefer an AJAX solution with a little red X that I click and the email fades away. But my discussion began with a concern about being able to archive conversations, in conversation view (and yes, I would like the archive to display by Message ID, and not by Subject as Outlook does. It's HIGHLY ANNOYING when all messages with the same subject like Website get lumped into the same conversation. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:28 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Are you saying that your Gmail, through the Gmail browser interface out-performs a locally installed, copy of Outlook? I find that is definitely does outperform it. Opening Chrome with GMail as a default tab is faster then opening Outlook. Searching my mail is WAY faster in GMail than in outlook. Just one annoyance with online interfaces is the trying to delete emails. I thought the entire point of this thread started because you didn't want to delete things, you wanted to KEEP things. Once I started using GMail I pretty much stopped deleting emails entirely unless they were friendly spam like monthly newsletters. But, at times when I do want to delete things, say to make more space in my account, it's very easy to search for all messages with attachments larger than X, and then select all delete all. What is it about deleting in a web interface that annoys you? I don't understand. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355474 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
I said, tired of helping them feed me adverts. They base the adverts they feed on everything they know about the target. I keep my data backed up. Dave, I spent 30 years in IT and most of it as an IT manager. I get by. Seems to chose to ignore most of what I said . -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 18 April 2013 02:25 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? What concerns me about using any Google product is just how much they know about me and my life. They have already been fined on numerous occasions for the inappropriate collection of personal data and I am getting a little tired of helping them feed me adverts. Google Apps is a product that you pay for, and it has completely different terms of service than free Google products. Google Apps for Business users do not get ads. Google Apps for Business user data is not used inappropriately, per the terms of service. Google Apps has been certified for use by the US federal government, which has pretty strict rules about these sorts of things. Google Apps is used by banks, medical firms, law firms, accounting firms - all companies with strict rules about PII, data sharing, etc, etc. I like my data to be on my computers where it is perfectly safe. You've never lost any data? Never had a computer fail? It seems to me that we must have completely different ideas of perfectly safe. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355475 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
I finally solved this. I exported the site configs from DW. Copied a working site configs to a new file. Imported the file and edited it to the site with the problem and it works. I would really like to understand exactly what the problem is/was, but this works for now. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 16 April 2013 16:44 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources are you sure the CFIDE is reachable on the URL you have specified in the RDS settings. If this is your local machine, you should only need to specify http://localhost/ as that is where the cfadmin resides by default On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Russ, It shows the config sequence. The RDS login seems to work fine in that the password is accepted. Step 5 Create a CF data source has :- http://mywebsite /cfide/administrator/datasources/index.cfm But the database don't list. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355476 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355427 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
Hi Russ, It shows the config sequence. The RDS login seems to work fine in that the password is accepted. Step 5 Create a CF data source has :- http://mywebsite /cfide/administrator/datasources/index.cfm But the database don't list. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355431 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources
URL test fails. I added a virtual web directory to cfide for the web site, then when I click step 5 it brings up CF admin. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 16 April 2013 15:32 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 7/ Dreamweaver and Data Sources does the database/DSN tab still display all the DSN's on that server ? On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, My setup is:- DW CS3 CF MX 7 Windows 7 WS Windows 2003 development server MS SQL 2000 database Local area network I am having a problem with DW CS3. A site I have used for some weeks has suddenly started misbehaving. When trying to access a CF 7 data source (SQL 2000, I know, it's old) binding I get :- In order to view the columns of this recordset, please associate the variable (#application.dsn#) with a data source. To do this, press the plus (+) button and choose Data Source Name Variable. When I try and associate my application.dsn with a data source none are seen in the drop down. I compared the site to another site which is working fine and I can't see any difference in the setup. I have cleared the site cache and removed the data connections from within DW. (menu, Site = Advanced) I tried completely recreating the site copying only the cfm files into a new directory. I tried removing the configs from the Appdata cache/config. I've used this set up for years, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't missed something obvious - very rusty. Any ideas as to what is wrong, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 10828 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355432 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
Hi Rick, It might be worth taking a look at Act! It is possible to integrate Act! and Outlook so that all email relating to a client record in Act! is automatically pulled in from Outlook and stored. Attachments are handled, too. Act! is a really good contact management system, so as well as storing/organising your emails, it will help you manage your clients, too. Cheers, Jenny -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: 16 April 2013 02:05 To: cf-talk Subject: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF? I've been trying to find a good way to store email *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that really handy paper trail you need sometimes...) I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote to One Note, but nothing works easily or automatically. Just wondering if anyone has tried this. I found nothing about it when searching the Internet. Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355435 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
It's better than dead. Great marketing slogan! Have you sent it to Adobe? Lol -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 18 March 2013 14:19 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam FWIW, there have been several competitors to CFML that have come out over the years, but they never really became popular, I bet you have not even heard of most of them, they certainly never get mentioned anywhere and most of them have already died, so it shows that CFML isn't doing too bad when you compare it to those. A couple that come to mind are iHTML Lasso ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355089 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
Try IBM, or Olivetti . and most others? -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2013 20:32 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam As someone who has had to make IT purchasing decisions for several large corporations and government agencies over the years, I only hope Abobe never mimics Oracle's marketing strategy. Those folks are sharks, relentless to the point where I banned them from the office at one company. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: For some time now I have thought a rebranding would be rather beneficial. A lot of places I work at the very name Coldfusion seems to be the biggest issue. It definitely is not the cost of the software being an issue and they all buy the Enterprise version because of Oracle. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355090 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
That's what Olivetti did to me. Can't mention the clients name, but very well known, and for a 7 figure sum. I went to meet my contact and as I strolled down the corridor I was shocked to see my Olivetti dealership rep. coming towards me. The Olivetti guy was supposed to be supporting our dealership to win the tender, instead of which they tendered directly as a manufacture. Would have been nice to know as I wasted six month on it. Anyhoo .. way OT ... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2013 21:12 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam Oh, I've dealt with all of them over the years. Oracle is the worst. Akamai is second. I was dealing with one of their staff as a consultant representing my client, and she actually had the temerity to go behind my back directly to the client, which ultimately cost her the deal, because the client was more ethical than she was and called me promptly to let me know what she was doing. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 9824 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355094 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
So CF is a great for getting into development for newbies, but expect to pay an enterprise level price. And if you are an enterprise, then you'll probably using something else anyway because you won't really need a newbie product. I recognise I'm not at the level on CF that many of you are here, but I have been able to develop quite nice eCommerce and CMS applications. What I don't like so much is that all I need, pretty much, is about 50% of what CF can do, having bought into a get started easily product, yet I'm still stuffed with enterprise level prices. IMO, CF has failed to identify where it actually sits in the market and to offer a range of functionalities and price tag that match. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 15 March 2013 14:27 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam programming. CF does what you need with server-side programming. But server-side application development tools are basically a commodity at this point. You can do anything with anything. There's nothing I can not quite. make sure you're sitting down not drinking anything, then check the price of an arcGIS server license (inside the US, prices outside the US might make your head explode). plus you need at least one desktop seat (about the same cost as enterprise cf) just to manage your arcGIS servers. in large enterprise projects that make use of that kind of server platform, cf's relatively cheap a very nice fit especially where you have to dip into java libs to get stuff done, run off reports, etc. Yeah, my comparison was aimed at general-purpose server-side programming environments, not stuff like arcGIS. And CF is definitely cheap for enterprise software - and that might actually be a problem in the enterprise, as people in the enterprise often equate cost with value. (There's no other explanation I have for the continued success of Oracle.) If you compare CF to ASP.NET, or to common J2EE environments, or to PHP, CF is easier to use, but not so much easier that everyone's going to switch to it from those other things. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
Hi Ray, I can see that to a developer that Adobe page looks incredibly sexy. The problem being that it is not always (usually not?) the developers who hold the purse strings. Many times in this list over the last few years I have seen threads from developers asking for help in selling CF to customers or their management. Why the hell isn't Adobe doing this for them already?? Jenny -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 March 2013 21:58 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam Oh I think the home page is great. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html If you meant the _Adobe_ home page, I think it is great too, but I'm probably biased. ;) I can't see many coders going to adobe.com looking for random development languages. I think the audience is totally different. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355044 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
+1 ;) -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: 17 March 2013 14:48 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CF running out of steam +1 Adobe Marketing is the failure... I see almost nothing on that front. I receive email newsletters constantly from Microsoft Evangelists who tout the conferences, tutorials, and benefits of Microsoft's offering. I rarely (never these days) receive ANYTHING from Adobe that discusses any of the above from an Adobe perspective. Adobe has content and human resources to be far more of push organization that it is. They seem to miss the fundamental perspective that I preach to my clients all the time. Push your benefits and products to current and prospective clients. Don't sit back and wait for them to come to you. There are *ALWAYS* others waiting to fill that void that's created and take the business which could be yours if they simply are significantly aware of what you offer and its benefits. Adobe fails at the most fundamental marketing strategy: Developing Top-of-mind awareness. And let's face it... 1) When Microsoft talks, people listen. 2) When Adobe talks, people listen. 3) When developers talk, people don't listen. And the fact is... Microsoft talks... Microsoft developers don't have to. Adobe doesn't talk... Adobe developers have to do the talking. See point three above. Rick -Original Message- From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CF running out of steam Hi Ray, I can see that to a developer that Adobe page looks incredibly sexy. The problem being that it is not always (usually not?) the developers who hold the purse strings. Many times in this list over the last few years I have seen threads from developers asking for help in selling CF to customers or their management. Why the hell isn't Adobe doing this for them already?? Jenny -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 March 2013 21:58 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam Oh I think the home page is great. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html If you meant the _Adobe_ home page, I think it is great too, but I'm probably biased. ;) I can't see many coders going to adobe.com looking for random development languages. I think the audience is totally different. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355057 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
Hi Roger, I take all of your points on board, but it is still frustrating to be trying to sell a product that the manufacturer does not seem particularly interested in selling itself - let alone the business model for the product being wrong in the first place. Jenny -Original Message- From: Roger Austin [mailto:raust...@nc.rr.com] Sent: 17 March 2013 15:37 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam As fun as a discussion like this is, I would caution people to avoid basing your career off of one product or system. No matter who you work for, you are a small business with one employee. Make decisions about your capabilities with that in mind. Be objective about decisions that are out of your control. You should have at least one plan B. Never stop learning new things inside and outside of programming. I remember the discussion when CF changed from very low cost to an enterprise price (V3-V4?). I gave it up and went with ASP since it was free. The same discussions about price were happening back then. I don't know the answer, but CF has had a lot of resilience. (I ended up back in CF once I started using corporate servers.) The main thing anyone can do is be active in the CF community, but be realistic. Nothing lasts forever. What would realistically happen to CF developers if Adobe canned ColdFusion? Most enterprises that use it would keep it running for a while and employ people to rewrite applications eventually. I don't know how long Adobe will keep ColdFusion, but I assume for some time in the future. Don't let something out of your control define your future (or at least hedge your bets.) The development landscape changes every few years. You have time to deal with it if you stay informed on trends. -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Google+: https://plus.google.com/117357905892731200369 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF running out of steam
It is too expensive and its main competition is free. It's not just expensive for business running their own servers, it is expensive for hosting companies too. Adobe missed the boat years ago to give it away either free or at a student price. When I talk to potential customers, none of them have heard of it and it puts up a barrier. I agree that customers worry that if I was ever not around, who could they find to help them, this loses me too many potential customers and even existing customers I have worked with for years have the same underlying concerns. Even the upgrade prices are extortionate and what we actually get in an upgrade often isn't that big a deal to MOST developers. Since version 7 the only feature I have come to need that is in a current product is EXIF extraction. There is almost a complete lack of applications in developed with CF. Look a PHP applications: phpBB, WordPress, osCommerce - here are some more:- http://blog.fedecarg.com/2008/05/22/20-most-influential-open-source-web-appl ications/ Google for Coldfusion applications:- https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=ensclient=psy-abq=copldfusion+applicationsoq =copldfusion+applicationsgs_l=hp.3..0i13l2j0i13i30j0i13i10i30.91106.93524.2 .93995.13.12.0.0.0.2.153.1513.0j12.12.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.Xpivj0a2 0Topbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.bvm=bv.43287494,d.d2kfp=d76e512bfb3860c7b iw=1680bih=893 Don't get me wrong, I love Coldfusion, but I can't see it lasting unless Adobe do something drastic to get the ball rolling - I don't see that happening, and even if they did, it is probably too late. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: 14 March 2013 00:14 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF running out of steam + 1 *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com http://www.electricedgesystems.com and www.fisheryfacts.com http://www.fisheryfacts.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 13-03-13 02:36 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote: Maybe they would just Google it. Google is a good tool but not an excuse for having a poor home page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355004 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Space in a Struct Key
Getting very rusty, can't remember how to access a key in a struct that has a space in it. Example:- imageMetaData.exif.Focal Length How would I cfoutput that, for example? Would someone put me out of my misery, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 9293 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354861 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Space in a Struct Key
This fails:- cfoutput#[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]#/cfoutput and I am sure I tried every other combination except the right one. You can see the structure here:- http://gallery.fasttrackonline.co.uk/admin/images/test.cfm CF7, if that makes any difference. -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 06 March 2013 22:20 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Space in a Struct Key Structname[your key] Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Mar 6, 2013 10:18 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Getting very rusty, can't remember how to access a key in a struct that has a space in it. Example:- imageMetaData.exif.Focal Length How would I cfoutput that, for example? Would someone put me out of my misery, please? Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 9293 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354866 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Space in a Struct Key
Could kick myself, thought I had tried that. Thanks Dave. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 06 March 2013 23:18 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Space in a Struct Key This fails:- cfoutput#[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]#/cfoutput and I am sure I tried every other combination except the right one. You can see the structure here:- http://gallery.fasttrackonline.co.uk/admin/images/test.cfm If the structure is imageMetaData, and it has a key called exif, you could refer to it either of these ways: imageMetaData.exif imageMetaData[exif] If the exif key is also a structure, you could refer to it either of these ways: imageMetaData.exif[Focal Length] imageMetaData[exif][Focal Length] Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354870 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Space in a Struct Key
Many thanks, Jeff. -Original Message- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:j...@garzasixpack.com] Sent: 06 March 2013 23:18 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Space in a Struct Key If you are going to use bracket notation, you need to use quotes for struct keys that are not variables. #[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]# - Coldfusion will be looking for a variable called exif. Try this instead: #imageMetaData[exif][Focal Length]# should work. -- Jeff Original Message From: Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:14 PM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Space in a Struct Key This fails:- cfoutput#[imageMetaData][exif][Focal Length]#/cfoutput and I am sure I tried every other combination except the right one. You can see the structure here:- http://gallery.fasttrackonline.co.uk/admin/images/test.cfm CF7, if that makes any difference. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354871 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM
Hi Mark, Thank you, it sounds like a great idea, but I don't have a clue how to go about that. Jenny -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:mark.d...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 March 2013 12:45 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM Hi I am late into the conversation but the library that you need, can you get the source? You might be able to compile and export the jar for the version of java that you require. Just a thought. Regards Mark Drew Sent from a mobile device On 2 Mar 2013, at 02:05, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I am trying to using an application that needs a later version of the JDK than the 1.4 (default) on my server. I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available. After changing the JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am wondering which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will support, please? Many thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 9062 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354784 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM
Hi Russ, Thanks for the idea, Railo is an option I've been thinking about for a long while. I'm worried about how compatible existing code will be on the other sites I run. I looked at the Railo info about augmentation to tag functions. Is it purely additional and optional functions or would I need to make a lot of changes? I couldn't find which version of the JDK the current Railo is using, anyone know, please? Thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 03 March 2013 10:19 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM If upgrading cf is not an option, why not give railo a try. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Mar 3, 2013 3:00 AM, Paul Hastings p...@sustainablegis.com wrote: On 3/3/2013 8:40 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: I found an old posting from Dave Watts indicating CF7 doesn't support JDK 1.6. if you 100% need the stuff from the lib version 2.5 beyond, you have no choice but to upgrade cf or use another java lib that works w/java 1.4.2 like maybe sanselan (as mentioned before in this thread): http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-imaging//download_sanselan.cg i but make sure it supports the EXIF data you need. i've worked w/sanselan before to write EXIF in comparison drew's metadata extractor lib is a whole lot easier to use. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354787 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM
Hi Paul, I had a look at sanselan, but I can't see any examples of the output to know this will get the metadata I need. The key things are image Title/Description/Keywords and the standard EXIF stuff like shutter speed/ISO/aperture, etc. Thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 03 March 2013 03:01 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM On 3/3/2013 8:40 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: I found an old posting from Dave Watts indicating CF7 doesn't support JDK 1.6. if you 100% need the stuff from the lib version 2.5 beyond, you have no choice but to upgrade cf or use another java lib that works w/java 1.4.2 like maybe sanselan (as mentioned before in this thread): http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-imaging//download_sanselan.cgi but make sure it supports the EXIF data you need. i've worked w/sanselan before to write EXIF in comparison drew's metadata extractor lib is a whole lot easier to use. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354788 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM
Thanks, Paul, it sounds good. I wish there were some examples of its usage. -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 03 March 2013 18:25 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM On 3/4/2013 12:17 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: I had a look at sanselan, but I can't see any examples of the output to know this will get the metadata I need. The key things are image Title/Description/Keywords and the standard EXIF stuff like shutter speed/ISO/aperture, etc. yup it appears to. it has getEXIF(),getPhotoshop() getGPS() methods which at first glance return data similar to metadata-extractor. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354793 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM
Hi Paul, Unfortunately, I need Version 2.5.0-RC1 to get the metadata that I need. The code you very kindly prepared is perfect for pure EXIF and works fine with 2.4. 2.5.0-RC1 adds a lot more metadata support and it's the Photoshop and additional IPTC tags I will need. 2.5.0-RC1 - Released 9 May 2011 New metadata support Added support for XMP metadata Added support for Photoshop metadata embedded in Jpeg files Added support for ICC colour profiles Added support for JFIF metadata Added many more tags to IPTC directory I tried out 2.2.5-RC1 and get the error:- 500 com/drew/imaging/ImageMetadataReader (Unsupported major.minor version 50.0) Can anyone confirm that this error is because JDK 1.6 or greater is needed, please? From info I have Googled, this seems to indicate this version of the library needs JDK 1.6 or later. I have searched Google and Adobe support and I can't find any information on which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion will support. Can anyone point me in the direction of where to find info about CF 7 and which JDKs it will support? Many thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 02 March 2013 02:43 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM On 3/2/2013 9:24 AM, Justin Scott wrote: I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available. After changing the JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am wondering which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will support, please? no idea but pretty sure there's an older version of the java lib you're using that supports 1.4.2. move the goal posts. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354779 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM
I found an old posting from Dave Watts indicating CF7 doesn't support JDK 1.6. Unfortunately, CF 7 doesn't support JDK 1.6. So, if you do this, some things may not work. But I'm not sure what exactly won't work, so if your code is pretty simple it might work fine for you. -Original Message- From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] Sent: 03 March 2013 01:35 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion 7 and JVM Hi Paul, Unfortunately, I need Version 2.5.0-RC1 to get the metadata that I need. The code you very kindly prepared is perfect for pure EXIF and works fine with 2.4. 2.5.0-RC1 adds a lot more metadata support and it's the Photoshop and additional IPTC tags I will need. 2.5.0-RC1 - Released 9 May 2011 New metadata support Added support for XMP metadata Added support for Photoshop metadata embedded in Jpeg files Added support for ICC colour profiles Added support for JFIF metadata Added many more tags to IPTC directory I tried out 2.2.5-RC1 and get the error:- 500 com/drew/imaging/ImageMetadataReader (Unsupported major.minor version 50.0) Can anyone confirm that this error is because JDK 1.6 or greater is needed, please? From info I have Googled, this seems to indicate this version of the library needs JDK 1.6 or later. I have searched Google and Adobe support and I can't find any information on which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion will support. Can anyone point me in the direction of where to find info about CF 7 and which JDKs it will support? Many thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 02 March 2013 02:43 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion 7 and JVM On 3/2/2013 9:24 AM, Justin Scott wrote: I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available. After changing the JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am wondering which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will support, please? no idea but pretty sure there's an older version of the java lib you're using that supports 1.4.2. move the goal posts. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354780 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Coldfusion 7 and JVM
Hi all, I am trying to using an application that needs a later version of the JDK than the 1.4 (default) on my server. I tried updating the JVK to version 7, latest available. After changing the JVM path the CF server would not start, so I am wondering which is the latest version of the JDK that Coldfusion 7 will support, please? Many thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 9062 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354775 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: EXF Photo Information
Hi Justin, It's great to see this in CF8, but unfortunately it doesn't provide all the metadata I would need, If you have ever used Photoshop or Lightroom, you can edit the File Info. This means the photog can add a lot of information to the image, such as Description, keywords, copyright, etc. When the file is uploaded to Flickr, for example, this information is read and it saves any need to rekey. It means where ever the image lands up, this information doesn't get detached. Many thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] Sent: 26 February 2013 00:06 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out of imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if you don't mind dipping down into java can add a java lib to your cf classpath that's probably your best bet. maybe: http://drewnoakes.com/code/exif/ ColdFusion 8 (sorry Jenny, this won't help you on CF7) introduced a function specifically to extract EXIF data called ImageGetEXIFMetaData(). You basically read in a JPEG image and pass it to the function and it returns a structure of whatever it can extract. Pete Freitag has a blog post with an example at http://www.petefreitag.com/item/657.cfm. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354718 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: EXF Photo Information
Hi Paul, My skills are purely in CF, I'm not a programmer as such. Is there a simple way I can go about using this java lib, please? I can use a bit of Javascript, would this be enough? Many thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 25 February 2013 06:45 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information On 2/25/2013 9:34 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a photographer. I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information? even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out of imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if you don't mind dipping down into java can add a java lib to your cf classpath that's probably your best bet. maybe: http://drewnoakes.com/code/exif/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354719 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: EXF Photo Information
Hi Paul, Many thanks indeed. I can see the general idea of your code, but it is way beyond me. Would it be very easy to create a cf tag from this that would take an image and output the exif data, etc? Thanks again, Jenny -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 28 February 2013 02:27 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information oops, that code was for cf10 used some undocumented stuff. this might work better for cf7. cfscript // path to image on server path=c:\cyclingTrips\khlong13\coffinService.jpg; // lib wants java IO file so... imgFile=createObject(java,java.io.File).init(path); metadataReader=createObject(java,com.drew.imaging.ImageMetadataReader); metadata=metadataReader.readMetadata(imgFile); exifDirs=metadata.getDirectories(); for (i=1; i LTE arrayLen(exifDirs); i++) { writeoutput(bDir: #exifDirs[i].getName()#/bbr); tags=exifDirs[i].getTags(); for (j=1; j LTE arrayLen(tags); j++) { writeoutput(#tags[j].getTagName()# :: #tags[j].getDescription()# br); } writeoutput(br); } /cfscript ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354730 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: EXF Photo Information
Hi Russ, Imagemagick is great, I've been using it for many years. Unfortunately all it does in relation to exif is use it to rotate an image correctly. Many thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: 27 February 2013 22:05 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: EXF Photo Information Try imagemagick, this does a lot more than cfimage and uses java library Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Feb 27, 2013 8:39 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Paul, My skills are purely in CF, I'm not a programmer as such. Is there a simple way I can go about using this java lib, please? I can use a bit of Javascript, would this be enough? Many thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 25 February 2013 06:45 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information On 2/25/2013 9:34 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a photographer. I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information? even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out of imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if you don't mind dipping down into java can add a java lib to your cf classpath that's probably your best bet. maybe: http://drewnoakes.com/code/exif/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: EXF Photo Information
Hi Justin, Not looking to spend on a CF upgrade over one site :) Upgrades are far too expensive, imo. Thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] Sent: 27 February 2013 22:40 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information It's great to see this in CF8, but unfortunately it doesn't provide all the metadata I would need, If you have ever used Photoshop or Lightroom, you can edit the File Info. This means the photog can add a lot of information to the image, such as Description, keywords, copyright, etc. When the file is uploaded to Flickr, for example, this information is read and it saves any need to rekey. It means where ever the image lands up, this information doesn't get detached. In that case you would use imageGetIPTCMetaData() instead (on CF8 and above, of course). -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: EXF Photo Information
Thanks for the reply, cfimage doesn't really cover it. The EXIFs can store all of the camera settings when the shot was taken, photo title/photographer/keyboards/decroiption and author, copyright, and a lot more. With sites like Flickr and Zenfolio, they will read this from the photograph. So the photo only has to prepare an image once and wherever it is uploaded that information will be automatic. -Original Message- From: AJ Mercer [mailto:ajmer...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 February 2013 03:10 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information you can try CFIMAGE action=info https://github.com/getrailo/railo/wiki/Documentation:4_0:Tags:cfimage You can download and test out quickly with Railo Express http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/download/ On 25 February 2013 10:34, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.ukwrote: Hi all, I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a photographer. I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information? If this isn't possible with CF, perhaps it could be done with Railo? I'd appreciate any ideas/solutions/pointing in the right direction. TIA, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 8868 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354689 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: EXF Photo Information
Thanks Paul, this looks very promising. Will be posting to the project to see how far they plan to go. An API would be fine. Cheers, Jenny -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 25 February 2013 06:45 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: EXF Photo Information On 2/25/2013 9:34 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a photographer. I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information? even if you upgraded not sure you'd get a whole lot of EXIF data out of imageInfo anyway beyond the very basics (height, width, etc.). if you don't mind dipping down into java can add a java lib to your cf classpath that's probably your best bet. maybe: http://drewnoakes.com/code/exif/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354690 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
EXF Photo Information
Hi all, I am still using CF7 and I'm about to put together a site for a photographer. I don't really want to spend a fortune upgrading CF, so I am wondering if there is anything I can use to read in EXIF information? If this isn't possible with CF, perhaps it could be done with Railo? I'd appreciate any ideas/solutions/pointing in the right direction. TIA, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 8868 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354670 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000
Hi Rob, It is working fine now, many thanks for your reply. CF just wasn't retrieving past the 64000 value set in admin. I really should have spotted it. Cheers, Jenny -Original Message- From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 15:48 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000 So, the data is fine in the db, but not displaying all of it? What does the variable look like upon retrieval? Is there something odd in the data that it's causing the truncation? On 2013-02-18 10:39 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Actually, looking at it again. It's not the writing of the data, it's the retrieval, so no actual truncation takes place? -Original Message- From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] Sent: 18 February 2013 15:28 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000 Hi Rob, Thanks for your reply. I'm getting rusty! I forgot to enable long text retrieval on a new server. Cheers, Jenny -Original Message- From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 13:49 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Truncating pages SQL 2000 Jenny, There is a limit on the amount of text that can be written to the database in CF. It's a part of the advanced settings for the database connection. Limit is 65000 characters by default. You can up that to anything. Hope that helps, Rob On 2013-02-18 8:06 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext field, either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way? I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and the content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to determine whether this was user error, or if it could have happened in any other way. Many thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 8643 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Truncating pages SQL 2000
Hi all, Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext field, either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way? I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and the content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to determine whether this was user error, or if it could have happened in any other way. Many thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 8643 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354558 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000
Hi Rob, Thanks for your reply. I'm getting rusty! I forgot to enable long text retrieval on a new server. Cheers, Jenny -Original Message- From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 13:49 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Truncating pages SQL 2000 Jenny, There is a limit on the amount of text that can be written to the database in CF. It's a part of the advanced settings for the database connection. Limit is 65000 characters by default. You can up that to anything. Hope that helps, Rob On 2013-02-18 8:06 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext field, either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way? I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and the content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to determine whether this was user error, or if it could have happened in any other way. Many thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 8643 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354565 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000
Actually, looking at it again. It's not the writing of the data, it's the retrieval, so no actual truncation takes place? -Original Message- From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] Sent: 18 February 2013 15:28 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Truncating pages SQL 2000 Hi Rob, Thanks for your reply. I'm getting rusty! I forgot to enable long text retrieval on a new server. Cheers, Jenny -Original Message- From: Rob Parkhill [mailto:robert.parkh...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 February 2013 13:49 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Truncating pages SQL 2000 Jenny, There is a limit on the amount of text that can be written to the database in CF. It's a part of the advanced settings for the database connection. Limit is 65000 characters by default. You can up that to anything. Hope that helps, Rob On 2013-02-18 8:06 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, Is there anything that could cause truncation of data in an ntext field, either by sql or coldfusion, or some other way? I have a CMS app that has been running a site for a few years and the content field of the CMS pages has become truncated. I need to determine whether this was user error, or if it could have happened in any other way. Many thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 8643 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:354568 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF 7 + Apps .. minimum ram
I'm setting up a testing server. CF7, SQL 2005. Can someone tell me the minimum RAM required please? It doesn't have to set any records Thanks, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 6923 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353430 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: (ot) Blocking IPs
LOL .. whoops .. didn't realise it was so long since I checked the list! -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 November 2012 19:26 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs You do realize that the post you replied to is 6 months old, right? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of time, usually an hour to a day does it. This was my security policy as an IT Manager and it is working fine on my dedicated server. Hope this helps! -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: 02 May 2012 13:51 To: cf-talk Subject: (ot) Blocking IPs I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks, repeated port scans, etc. I've had complaints from some of my clients who do international business that some people cannot access their sites other parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints. Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous? Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353048 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: (ot) Blocking IPs
LMAO ! :P It's cruel to mock the afflicted ;) -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 November 2012 23:30 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Blocking IPs That sir, made my day. Classic. G! On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I have found it effective to block troublesome emails for some length of time, usually 6 months does it. http://instantrimshot.com/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353049 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: (ot) Blocking IPs
I have found it effective to block troublesome IPs for some length of time, usually an hour to a day does it. This was my security policy as an IT Manager and it is working fine on my dedicated server. Hope this helps! -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: 02 May 2012 13:51 To: cf-talk Subject: (ot) Blocking IPs I have a host who, for the most part, I am satisfied with. However, he is in the habit of blocking IP ranges for various reasons... DDOS attacks, repeated port scans, etc. I've had complaints from some of my clients who do international business that some people cannot access their sites other parts of the world, like places in Asia, the Middle East, South and Central America, etc. I'm not surprised at the complaints. Is this a normal practice, or is this host over-zealous? Robert Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 I Hauppauge, NY 11788 T 631.231.6600 X 119 F 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Blog: http://www.austin-williams.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/austin_ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:353041 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFINVOKE - Component Location
Hi all, I'm trying to work out how to point to the file location of a component using cfinvoke. I am storing all of the component files for my application in one directory which is one step off the web root. Many thanks in advance, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29195 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350972 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFINVOKE - Component Location
Hi Ray, Thanks for your reply. Yes I could use a cfmapping, however I'm a bit confused as I thought the cfmappings were for accessing files outside the web root or its sub-directories. I read By default, ColdFusion MX defines a mapping for the web root (/). You can define additional mappings to allow access to pages outside of the web root. So I don't understand why I can't use this default mapping- I realise I can't bit I also realise I need to understand why. I created a cfmapping pointing to a directory inside the webroot of the application called /gallerycomponents. Then I tried running the cfinvoke as follows, but it appears I have some syntax wrong. cfinvoke component=/gallerycomponents/functions.cfc method=getTags I read up in your book, CF 7 Construction Kit, that a mapping can be used when invoking the component, but there wasn't a syntax example using a mapping. Thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 May 2012 16:51 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location Can you use a cfmapping? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to work out how to point to the file location of a component using cfinvoke. I am storing all of the component files for my application in one directory which is one step off the web root. Many thanks in advance, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29195 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350974 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29195 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350976 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFINVOKE - Component Location
Thanks Bobby, sorted. -Original Message- From: Bobby [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: 03 May 2012 17:41 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location Try component=gallerycomponents.functions ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350979 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29200 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFINVOKE - Component Location
Thanks Matt. -Original Message- From: Matt Quackenbush [mailto:quackfu...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 May 2012 17:36 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location You'll want to use dot notation. So, using your example of /gallerycomponents/functions.cfc, you'd do the following: cfinvoke component=gallerycomponents.functions method=foo / HTH On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Ray, Thanks for your reply. Yes I could use a cfmapping, however I'm a bit confused as I thought the cfmappings were for accessing files outside the web root or its sub-directories. I read By default, ColdFusion MX defines a mapping for the web root (/). You can define additional mappings to allow access to pages outside of the web root. So I don't understand why I can't use this default mapping- I realise I can't bit I also realise I need to understand why. I created a cfmapping pointing to a directory inside the webroot of the application called /gallerycomponents. Then I tried running the cfinvoke as follows, but it appears I have some syntax wrong. cfinvoke component=/gallerycomponents/functions.cfc method=getTags I read up in your book, CF 7 Construction Kit, that a mapping can be used when invoking the component, but there wasn't a syntax example using a mapping. Thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 May 2012 16:51 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFINVOKE - Component Location Can you use a cfmapping? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to work out how to point to the file location of a component using cfinvoke. I am storing all of the component files for my application in one directory which is one step off the web root. Many thanks in advance, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29195 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350974 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29195 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350977 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 29200 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350981 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 10 Release
I'd bet dollars, but not real money ;) lol -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 April 2012 14:28 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 10 Release Anybody want to take a bet with me? ;) On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: I already own a copy of that :-) -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 28364 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
(ot) Maillist with API
Hi all, Apologies for the completely OT posting, but I'm in desperate need for a solution. Until recently I have been hosting a discussion maillist for one of my customers. Subscription is required for membership of the list and there is also an opt-in option on the member profile. So on a daily basis the subscriber list is recompiled based on subscriptions. I need to move the mail list off my own mail server and I am looking for a host with an API (or some other interface, could be SOAP) facility to manage the subscriber list. Any ideas please? Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 20465 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350244 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: (ot) Maillist with API
Hi Will and Russ, Many thanks for your replies! I was looking at Mailchimp, but is it only a broadcast/newsletter service or does it support discussion lists with moderators, etc? I can't find anything about discussion mail lists on their site. Jenny -Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com] Sent: 06 March 2012 11:36 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API We've looked at both MailChimp and Campaign Monitor, both of whom have mature APIs and offer similar functionality. I'd recommend either. Will On 6 March 2012 11:29, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.ukwrote: Hi all, Apologies for the completely OT posting, but I'm in desperate need for a solution. Until recently I have been hosting a discussion maillist for one of my customers. Subscription is required for membership of the list and there is also an opt-in option on the member profile. So on a daily basis the subscriber list is recompiled based on subscriptions. I need to move the mail list off my own mail server and I am looking for a host with an API (or some other interface, could be SOAP) facility to manage the subscriber list. Any ideas please? Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 20465 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 20465 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350248 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: (ot) Maillist with API
Hi Dave, I had a look at Google Groups hoping for an API. It seems they are revamping it and there is currently no API. There is an option to use the all new and sparkling Google Groups, but much of the interface is still in development. Jenny -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 06 March 2012 19:14 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API sorry must have misread, if your looking for discussion lists then there is always google apps which gives you google groups using your own domain. Yes, and Apps does have an API that lets you do quite a bit. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 22364 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350292 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: (ot) Maillist with API
Hi Brian, I looked at Topica, but it appears to be a marketing mail list service, not discussion mail list, or am I wrong? Also, I couldn't see any evidence of an API? Many thanks, Jenny -Original Message- From: Brian Thornton [mailto:br...@cfdeveloper.com] Sent: 07 March 2012 00:38 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API I used Topica for many clients... Pricing and whitelisting is about the same as mailchimp or api.jangomail.com On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Dave, I had a look at Google Groups hoping for an API. It seems they are revamping it and there is currently no API. There is an option to use the all new and sparkling Google Groups, but much of the interface is still in development. Jenny -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 06 March 2012 19:14 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Maillist with API sorry must have misread, if your looking for discussion lists then there is always google apps which gives you google groups using your own domain. Yes, and Apps does have an API that lets you do quite a bit. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~~~ ~~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 22364 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:350293 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 22364 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350294 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
(ot) Nivo slideshow
Hi all, I am sure I am doing something daft. Images are not sliding and I am getting the following error:- Error: $(#slider).nivoSlider is not a function Source File: http://chesterfield-fc-trust.fasttrackonline.co.uk/concept/untitled1.cfm Line: 17 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / titleUntitled Document/title link rel=stylesheet href=nivo-slider.css type=text/css media=screen / !--- jquery --- script src=http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.4.2/jquery.min.js; type=text/javascript/script script src=jquery.nivo.slider.pack.js type=text/javascript/script !--- on load --- script type=text/javascript $(window).load(function() { $('#slider').nivoSlider({ }); }); /script /head body !--- slide show --- div id=slider class=nivoSlider img src=/pageart/stadium-1200.gif width=1200 height=200 / img src=/pageart/stadium-1200-1.gif width=1200 height=200 title=This is an example of a caption / img src=/pageart/stadium-1200-2.gif width=1200 height=200 / /div /body /html Thanks in advance for showing me where I've gone wrong! Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 12053 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: (ot) Nivo slideshow
Hi Gerald and Dean, Many thanks, working fine now! Jenny -Original Message- From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 December 2011 19:01 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: (ot) Nivo slideshow Jenny, The page is not finding the jquery.nivo.slider.pack.js file. Make sure your path is correct. Dean On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I am sure I am doing something daft. Images are not sliding and I am getting the following error:- Error: $(#slider).nivoSlider is not a function Source File: http://chesterfield-fc-trust.fasttrackonline.co.uk/concept/untitled1.c fm Line: 17 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 / titleUntitled Document/title link rel=stylesheet href=nivo-slider.css type=text/css media=screen / !--- jquery --- script src=http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.4.2/jquery.min.js; type=text/javascript/script script src=jquery.nivo.slider.pack.js type=text/javascript/script !--- on load --- script type=text/javascript $(window).load(function() { $('#slider').nivoSlider({ }); }); /script /head body !--- slide show --- div id=slider class=nivoSlider img src=/pageart/stadium-1200.gif width=1200 height=200 / img src=/pageart/stadium-1200-1.gif width=1200 height=200 title=This is an example of a caption / img src=/pageart/stadium-1200-2.gif width=1200 height=200 / /div /body /html Thanks in advance for showing me where I've gone wrong! Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 12053 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:349170 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1890 / Virus Database: 2108/4681 - Release Date: 12/14/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 12053 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this me ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349178 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Puzzling error
I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly throwing a java error, any ideas anyone, please? cfset delay = 1 cfset sTime = gettickcount() cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay /cfloop TIA, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11612 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349048 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Puzzling error
Many thanks to Dave, Mark and Jonah for your replies. To be honest, I wasn't very happy with my solution in the first place. The solution was to wait for a file to be thumb-nailed before deleting a temporary file that had been uploaded. I am using this as a substitute: cfset waitforthis = #application.webroot#file-store-user\#session.userID#.gif cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0 /cfloop So I check for a new file to exist before deleting the upload. -Original Message- From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com] Sent: 11 December 2011 23:31 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Puzzling error OR you could just use sleep()! Available since CF 8. http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/6/15/cf8_hidden_gem _sleep_function Much better than spinning really fast in a loop. Cheers, .jonah On 12/11/11 11:22 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote: This looks odd to me. I think I would likely do You are asking conditional loop renderer to evaluate gettickcount over and over... a function call instead of a primitive. Usually I see something set - like timeCounter - inside of the loop for the next iteration... like so: cfset delay = 1 cfset sTime = gettickcount() + delay/ cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime ...do something...then cfset sTime = sTime + (getTickcount()-sTime)/ /cfloop Usually something inside the loop controls how to break out of the loop. What kind of error are you seeing? Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.408.3733 x105 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger -Original Message- From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Puzzling error I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly throwing a java error, any ideas anyone, please? cfset delay = 1 cfset sTime = gettickcount() cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay /cfloop TIA, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11612 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:349054 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11619 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349057 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Puzzling error
Thanks Jonah .. nice finish :) -Original Message- From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com] Sent: 12 December 2011 00:19 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Puzzling error That makes sense. You may want to add some sleep() so you don't have to hit the disk too often. cfset waitforthis = #application.webroot#file-store- user\#session.userID#.gif/ cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0 cfset sleep(250) / /cfloop On 12/11/11 3:40 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: Many thanks to Dave, Mark and Jonah for your replies. To be honest, I wasn't very happy with my solution in the first place. The solution was to wait for a file to be thumb-nailed before deleting a temporary file that had been uploaded. I am using this as a substitute: cfset waitforthis = #application.webroot#file-store-user\#session.userID#.gif cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0 /cfloop So I check for a new file to exist before deleting the upload. -Original Message- From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com] Sent: 11 December 2011 23:31 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Puzzling error OR you could just use sleep()! Available since CF 8. http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/6/15/cf8_hidden_g em _sleep_function Much better than spinning really fast in a loop. Cheers, .jonah On 12/11/11 11:22 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote: This looks odd to me. I think I would likely do You are asking conditional loop renderer to evaluate gettickcount over and over... a function call instead of a primitive. Usually I see something set - like timeCounter - inside of the loop for the next iteration... like so: cfset delay = 1 cfset sTime = gettickcount() + delay/ cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime ...do something...then cfset sTime = sTime + (getTickcount()-sTime)/ /cfloop Usually something inside the loop controls how to break out of the loop. What kind of error are you seeing? Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.408.3733 x105 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger -Original Message- From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Puzzling error I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly throwing a java error, any ideas anyone, please? cfset delay = 1 cfset sTime = gettickcount() cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay /cfloop TIA, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11612 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:349054 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11619 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:349058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11623 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349061 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Puzzling error
Just realised Sleep is CF 8 .. I'm on 7 .. -Original Message- From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com] Sent: 12 December 2011 00:19 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Puzzling error That makes sense. You may want to add some sleep() so you don't have to hit the disk too often. cfset waitforthis = #application.webroot#file-store- user\#session.userID#.gif/ cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0 cfset sleep(250) / /cfloop On 12/11/11 3:40 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: Many thanks to Dave, Mark and Jonah for your replies. To be honest, I wasn't very happy with my solution in the first place. The solution was to wait for a file to be thumb-nailed before deleting a temporary file that had been uploaded. I am using this as a substitute: cfset waitforthis = #application.webroot#file-store-user\#session.userID#.gif cfloop condition=fileExists(waitforthis) eq 0 /cfloop So I check for a new file to exist before deleting the upload. -Original Message- From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com] Sent: 11 December 2011 23:31 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Puzzling error OR you could just use sleep()! Available since CF 8. http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/6/15/cf8_hidden_g em _sleep_function Much better than spinning really fast in a loop. Cheers, .jonah On 12/11/11 11:22 AM, Mark A. Kruger wrote: This looks odd to me. I think I would likely do You are asking conditional loop renderer to evaluate gettickcount over and over... a function call instead of a primitive. Usually I see something set - like timeCounter - inside of the loop for the next iteration... like so: cfset delay = 1 cfset sTime = gettickcount() + delay/ cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime ...do something...then cfset sTime = sTime + (getTickcount()-sTime)/ /cfloop Usually something inside the loop controls how to break out of the loop. What kind of error are you seeing? Mark Kruger - CFG CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com O: 402.408.3733 x105 E: mkru...@cfwebtools.com Skype: markakruger -Original Message- From: Jenny Gavin-Wear [mailto:jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Puzzling error I've been using the following for a lon time and it's suddenly throwing a java error, any ideas anyone, please? cfset delay = 1 cfset sTime = gettickcount() cfloop condition=gettickcount() lt sTime + delay /cfloop TIA, Jenny -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11612 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:349054 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11619 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:349058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11623 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349062 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Puzzling error
Hi Kym, Yes please and thank you! Jenny -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au] Sent: 12 December 2011 01:52 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Puzzling error On 12/12/2011 12:47, Jenny Gavin-Wear wrote: Just realised Sleep is CF 8 .. I'm on 7 .. 32 bit? There is a CFX_Sleep which does the same task. I can flick it to you if you can't find it. -- Yours, Kym Kovan mbcomms.net.au ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:349063 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 11627 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349065 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Changing the Mail/Spool folder
Good to know .. It could even mean a RAM Disk could potentially be config'd for better performance. -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:firew...@cc.uk.com] Sent: 24 November 2011 11:50 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Changing the Mail/Spool folder That's awesome, thanks Russ :) -Original Message- ok I found it for you. look in neo-mail.xml for these 2 values var name='undeliverdir'string{neo.rootdir}/Mail/Undelivr/string/var var name='spooldir'string{neo.rootdir}/Mail/Spool/string/var ~~ ~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion- Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/message.cfm/messageid:348858 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf- talk/unsubscribe.cfm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2101/4635 - Release Date: 11/23/11 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 9965 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348868 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Wysiwyg editor
+ 1 for Matt's reply. FCK doesn't do a great job of cleaning up word text .. do a view source .. Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 October 2011 01:20 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor I recommend that people only copy and paste from notepad. Extra html that gets in there from any other source can wreak havoc on the final output. -Matt On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly what I thought. In fact I found a solution how to get rid of the error message. I appreciate the reply! On Oct 24, 2011 5:41 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: the copy and paste is a firefox security setting, they are going to get it with any WYSIWYG editor.The message actually tells you how to get rid of it if I recall. it is however very easy to bypass, you can drag and drop text or right click paste and you wont get the message, -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6300 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348323 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Error message
Hi all, I'm trying to pin down the cause of the following error in the application log. Element is undefined in a Java object of type class coldfusion.runtime.CookieScope referenced as The code it points to is:- cfif isdefined(form.email) and len(form.email) and isdefined(form.password) and len(form.password) and isdefined(form.remember) and val(form.remember) cfcookie name=email value=#form.email# expires=30 cfcookie name=password value=#form.password# expires=30 cfcookie name=remember value=1 expires=30 /cfif It occurs quite rarely, perhaps 2-3 times a day. TIA for any suggestions, Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 5838 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348264 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Error message
Many thanks Robert, I've added some extra verification to the data being written to the cookie, will see how that goes. I suspect it is happening when a spam bot hits the form and the data being provided isn't valid. Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: 20 October 2011 15:34 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Error message It appears you are allowing user to enter some values then storing them as cookies. The error you are showing looks like it may be a syntax error in the CF code where some line is not seeing the values correctly. This could happen if you get a stray or stray # in your user values somewhere and aren't handling them correctly... Are you handling special characters like and # in your user entry fields? I'd check that. Try putting some values containing or # in your entry fields and see if that can duplicate the error. Try starting a value with also. That isn't necessarily the cause, but it's a possiblilty. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348286 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Encrypt / UrlEncode
I took a string, encrypted it and then url encoded. 0%3FJ%3FYBBR6-%3BE%2F)ANL%2F%3AR 5 %0A I'm not sure why the result was a string which contains spaces. Any ideas, please? Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 5080 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348152 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Hiding email address from spiders
Hi Dave, I am familiar with form protect, nice solution. However, these emails can be anywhere in a body of text created with the CMS. (fckeditor/ntext.) I'm playing with this roughly coded idea:- cfset myContent = you can see my email address myem...@home.com is inside a string cfoutput Before: #myContent#br br cfloop from=1 to=#listlen(myContent, )# index=I cfif isvalid(email,listgetat(myContent, I, )) cfset myEmail = #listgetat(myContent, I, )# cfset temp = #encrypt(myEmail,'ukasfp')# cfset temp = urlencodedformat(temp) cfset myContent = replace(myContent, myEmail, 'a href=contact-form-page.cfm?email=#temp#click here/a') /cfif /cfloop After: #myContent#br br br /cfoutput But I'm getting spaces in the urlencoded value. I am thinking it's the encryption params I'm using? Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 15 October 2011 00:39 To: cf-talk Subject: Fwd: Hiding email address from spiders How about the honeypot method Anyone have any experience with this highly efficient, I have used it and several others like it such as naming a hidden form field emailaddress and tracking cookies from page to page and other methods and it does reduce automated bots but does not eliminate them. The bots generally read a form and then brute force attack it filling out or not filling out fields to bypass this exact method. While I fully agree in principal that the form protection should be transparent the use of a simple 3-5 characters short and legible captcha has so far been the absolute best deterrent to automated bots that I have found. Have you used CFFORMPROTECT? I've found that to work very well, with the added bonus that it's not a deterrent to real users the way a CAPTCHA is. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsit ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Encrypt / UrlEncode
That's excellent, thank you Justin, exactly what I need :) Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] Sent: 14 October 2011 15:41 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Encrypt / UrlEncode I took a string, encrypted it and then url encoded. Encrypted strings can contain all sorts of interesting characters and using URLEncodedFormat() isn't generally recommended for passing an encrypted string through the URL. Use the toBase64() function to base-64 encode it, THEN use URLEncodedFormat() and pass that through to the URL instead. It will be a lot cleaner and prevent the encrypted string from becoming malformed in transit which could lead to problems decrypting it later. On the receiving end, decode the base-64 format back to another variable and you'll be all set: cfset original = toBinary(url.my_base_64_value) / -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348173 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Hiding email address from spiders
Thanks, Bobby, exactly along the lines I am thinking. The mail address for me has no mailto:, it's just contained in a string. I'm wondering if I'll have to check the whole string for the existance of an email address by looping through each word, or if there is an easier/faster way? For example, this code would find the string. However, I don't know if I can use a regular expression, for example, to rereplace the string with ascii? (Never used regex before...) Or could I use a regular expression to search AND replace the email address with ascii on the whole string, which would be a lot faster? cfset mystring = this is the email address myaddr...@home.com that I use cfset mynewString = cfoutput cfloop from=1 to=#listlen(mystring, )# index=I cfif isvalid(email, listgetat(mystring, I, )) !--- now set this to ascii --- #listgetat(mystring, I, )#br cfelse cfset mynewString = #mynewString# #listgetat(mystring, I, )# /cfif /cfloop #mynewString# /cfoutput Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:bo...@acoderslife.com] Sent: 08 October 2011 04:09 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Hiding email address from spiders Here is a page with an example of the source: http://cf4em.com/cf4em/index.cfm?mainaction=postsforumid=2threadid=63 The last post has my email address in the last sentence. This is what the source of that mailto link looks like: a href=#109#97#105#108#116#111#58#98#111#98#98#121#64 #99#102# 52#101#109#46#99#111#109#98#111#98#98#121#64#99#10 2#52#101 #109#46#99#111#109/a .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4302 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348014 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Hiding email address from spiders
What a strange assumption to make. Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] Sent: 08 October 2011 15:15 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Hiding email address from spiders In all honesty though, if someone submits some text to their own site that they know is going to be displayed and it has email addresses in it, they probably don't care much about the subject. Too right. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348024 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Hiding email address from spiders
I have a client using a CMS I've built and they are using a lot of email addresses in the content. As I can search/replace content, I am wondering what is the best way to hide them from the spiders? tia, Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4302 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348008 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Outputting telephone numbers
I hope you never format mine like that ;) Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Rick Sanders [mailto:r...@webenergy.ca] Sent: 06 October 2011 16:49 To: cf-talk Subject: Outputting telephone numbers Sorry for the newbie question. For the life of me I can't see anywhere how to output a telephone number from a database that stores a number like 2125551212 to display as (212) 555-1212. Thanks. Kind Regards, [WebLogomailsig] Rick Sanders Webenergy Software 902-401-7689 http://www.webenergy.cahttp://www.webenergy.ca/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed???
Interesting .. Josh, any good links on the subject you could point me to, please? TIA, Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:joshnathan...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 October 2011 17:53 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Using ColdFusion to Create an Activity Feed??? If you want to get really jiggy with it, you can use a Gateway on the server side and connect to it using long polling or web sockets. This will push server changes to any connected clients immediately. -- Josh -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3885 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347926 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Paypal integration
Thanks Roger Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Roger Austin [mailto:raust...@nc.rr.com] Sent: 27 September 2011 19:36 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Paypal integration There was a presentation at NCDevCon by Sidney Maestre of PayPal. The url to all the presos is http://go.ncsu.edu/ncdevcon2011 You will need Silverlight to view them. Click on the Web presentations and look for his talk if you want some inside on current and new features. -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/roger-austin/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Google+: https://plus.google.com/117357905892731200369 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347760 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Paypal integration
Buy now button (form submission). Does anyone know if it is possible to use the form to specify a different IPN url? I'm currently using the URL specified in the Merchant Services section of the customer's account, but it would save me a lot of time if I could specify it using the form instead. Thanks in advance, Jenny Gavin-Wear Fast Track Online Tel: 01262 602013 http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3037 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347748 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm