RE: Faster SMTP
This is an actual mail server though correct? My mail server is not the issue it spools out fine. It's the CF Spooler that is my bottleneck. -Original Message- From: Erik-Jan Jaquet [mailto:erik...@toomba.nl] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:44 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Faster SMTP We're using Infusion Mail server for this kinf of thing. Works really well and its really fast. http://www.coolfusion.com/downloads/index.cfm?CFID=951923CFTOKEN=252379 43 Kind regards, Erik-Jan ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329088 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Faster SMTP
I've never used the Windows SMTP service for this, anyone know if it runs multiple threads and how configurable it is? It does, and it's smoking fast. As for configurable, it takes mail and sends it out, not a lot of options there. It does give you some control over where to copy bounces to, what IP to send from, etc. -Justin ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329104 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Faster SMTP
This is an actual mail server though correct? My mail server is not the issue it spools out fine. It's the CF Spooler that is my bottleneck. Bypass it. Some mail servers have a place where a message file can be written or copied to and it will pick it up and process it. The Microsoft SMTP spooler has a folder under mailroot called pickup specifically for this purpose. ModusMail has a similar option. I'm not sure about MDaemon and Smartermail, but they're fairly mature products and I'd expect they do as well. You can write files out a lot faster than CF's spooler can move the mail via SMTP. -Justin ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329105 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Faster SMTP
So all I would need to do is recreate the txt file that is those .cfmail files or is there more to it than that? Thanks, Patrick J Hedgepath Pegasus Web Productions webmas...@pegweb.com (803)-996-0578 On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: This is an actual mail server though correct? My mail server is not the issue it spools out fine. It's the CF Spooler that is my bottleneck. Bypass it. Some mail servers have a place where a message file can be written or copied to and it will pick it up and process it. The Microsoft SMTP spooler has a folder under mailroot called pickup specifically for this purpose. ModusMail has a similar option. I'm not sure about MDaemon and Smartermail, but they're fairly mature products and I'd expect they do as well. You can write files out a lot faster than CF's spooler can move the mail via SMTP. -Justin ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329106 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Faster SMTP
There is more to it than that. Javamail translates the spooler file into smtp commands which result in the file on the SMTP server. Get ahold of one of the .eml files from the /queue directory of the IIS SMTP server.. That's the one you need to emulate. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:14 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Faster SMTP So all I would need to do is recreate the txt file that is those .cfmail files or is there more to it than that? Thanks, Patrick J Hedgepath Pegasus Web Productions webmas...@pegweb.com (803)-996-0578 On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: This is an actual mail server though correct? My mail server is not the issue it spools out fine. It's the CF Spooler that is my bottleneck. Bypass it. Some mail servers have a place where a message file can be written or copied to and it will pick it up and process it. The Microsoft SMTP spooler has a folder under mailroot called pickup specifically for this purpose. ModusMail has a similar option. I'm not sure about MDaemon and Smartermail, but they're fairly mature products and I'd expect they do as well. You can write files out a lot faster than CF's spooler can move the mail via SMTP. -Justin ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329107 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Faster SMTP
So all I would need to do is recreate the txt file that is those .cfmail files or is there more to it than that? Those are formatted specifically for ColdFusion. Most mail servers want a .msg file formatted with all of your usual headers, one per line, then two line breaks and the message body, such as: To: someone some...@example.com From: sender sen...@example.com Subject: Some subject line Reply-To: re...@example.com Your message here... -- Justin Scott | GravityFree The Smart Business Web Agency 1960 Stickney Point Road, Suite 210 Sarasota, FL 34231 941.927.7674 x115 800.207.4431 ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329108 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Faster SMTP (Infusion Mailserver...)
Erik, You said We're using Infusion Mail server for this kinf of thing. Works really well and its really fast. When was the last time you were able to contact **anyone** at infusion? As far as I know they are no longer in business and its impossible to reach anyone there. I am also using infusion mailserver and I love it, but it looks like there toe up, so I would be careful about recommending them. Correct me if I'm wrong, I really hope I am wrong cause I want to buy a new license but there nobody home. Does Anyone have any info on this?? Brook -Original Message- From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] Sent: December-11-09 7:55 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Faster SMTP This is an actual mail server though correct? My mail server is not the issue it spools out fine. It's the CF Spooler that is my bottleneck. -Original Message- From: Erik-Jan Jaquet [mailto:erik...@toomba.nl] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:44 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Faster SMTP We're using Infusion Mail server for this kinf of thing. Works really well and its really fast. http://www.coolfusion.com/downloads/index.cfm?CFID=951923CFTOKEN=252379 43 Kind regards, Erik-Jan ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Faster SMTP
I have a lot of clients with email newsletters and they all seem to send them out at the same time which backs up in the cfspooler. I have one client in particular that can't wait on the emails from the forms on his site so I was looking into some solutions that would allow their mail to go directly to our mail server. I am looking at this one. http://aspfusion.net/advsmtp-d.htm Anybody used this or have other suggestions? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329038 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Faster SMTP
We're using Infusion Mail server for this kinf of thing. Works really well and its really fast. http://www.coolfusion.com/downloads/index.cfm?CFID=951923CFTOKEN=25237943 Kind regards, Erik-Jan Op donderdag 10-12-2009 om 10:10 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef webmas...@pegweb.com: I have a lot of clients with email newsletters and they all seem to send them out at the same time which backs up in the cfspooler. I have one client in particular that can't wait on the emails from the forms on his site so I was looking into some solutions that would allow their mail to go directly to our mail server. I am looking at this one. http://aspfusion.net/advsmtp-d.htm Anybody used this or have other suggestions? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329041 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Faster SMTP
I have a lot of clients with email newsletters and they all seem to send them out at the same time which backs up in the cfspooler. I have one client in particular that can't wait on the emails from the forms on his site so I was looking into some solutions that would allow their mail to go directly to our mail server. I am looking at this one. How many messages are we talking about? I've generally found that writing MSG files directly to the pickup folder of the Microsoft SMTP service (bundled with IIS) gets them out WAY faster than anything else I've tried. This, of course, assumes you're on Windows and have access to configure the server. The component you linked to has some nice features that will handle some of the more complex tasks of creating the message file (multi-mime, etc.). Overall it doesn't look too bad if you need those features. -Justin Scott ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329052 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Faster SMTP
Yeah I'm using smarter mail for my mail server on a separate server. I have clients where some of them have around 30k email lists. So when you get one of those that goes out it takes the CF server several hours to spool it out since it is pro and not enterprise. So any other email sent by CF gets put in line behind that. -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:36 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Faster SMTP How many messages are we talking about? I've generally found that writing MSG files directly to the pickup folder of the Microsoft SMTP service (bundled with IIS) gets them out WAY faster than anything else I've tried. This, of course, assumes you're on Windows and have access to configure the server. The component you linked to has some nice features that will handle some of the more complex tasks of creating the message file (multi-mime, etc.). Overall it doesn't look too bad if you need those features. -Justin Scott ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329076 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Faster SMTP
I've used Mdaemon in the past. Very fast mail processing. Not 100% sure, but I think they even do a single domain free version, you could use it as a mail spool, perhaps? I also run Smartermail because my customer like the web access to mail, bit it is SO slow on processing lists (also not Enterprise version). I've never used the Windows SMTP service for this, anyone know if it runs multiple threads and how configurable it is? -Original Message- From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] Sent: 11 December 2009 01:38 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Faster SMTP Yeah I'm using smarter mail for my mail server on a separate server. I have clients where some of them have around 30k email lists. So when you get one of those that goes out it takes the CF server several hours to spool it out since it is pro and not enterprise. So any other email sent by CF gets put in line behind that. -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:36 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Faster SMTP How many messages are we talking about? I've generally found that writing MSG files directly to the pickup folder of the Microsoft SMTP service (bundled with IIS) gets them out WAY faster than anything else I've tried. This, of course, assumes you're on Windows and have access to configure the server. The component you linked to has some nice features that will handle some of the more complex tasks of creating the message file (multi-mime, etc.). Overall it doesn't look too bad if you need those features. -Justin Scott ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
