On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 03:52 PM, Andre Turrettini wrote:
Can someone educate me on how you would spoof an ip and then get back
content.
I used (or misused) the term spoof to mean making the server believe
that your IP address is different from what it really is. The only way
I
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From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 03:52 PM, Andre Turrettini wrote:
Can someone educate me on how you would
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're kidding right?
Actually, no, I'm not kidding. Of course I have heard this discussed
theoretically before (like stopping people from viewing the source of
your pages, downloading your JavaScript files, stealing your
. . . ?
DRE
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're kidding right?
Actually
provided a different ip than your own. . . ?
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: On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:43 PM, [EMAIL
Can someone educate me on how you would spoof an ip and
then get back content.
I always understood that the server returned info to your
ip, thus if you spoofed it, sure, the server would do its
thing but then it would nt come back to you because you
provided a different ip than your
good luck.
they can spoof anything from anywhere, if they *really* want to :)
tony weeg
uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
tony at navtrak dot net
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337
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how about, making a password protected area that contains sensitive
data, and then just a bland regular area, that you don't care about
someone coming into, regardless
of who/where/why they are there ?
tony weeg
uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
tony at navtrak dot net
www.navtrak.net
VPN?
Tim Heald MCP/CCFD
Information Systems Specialist
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
(202) 663-0130
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:11 PM
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Hello,
Any have any other creative ideas on how to block
competitors from gaining
access to a Web site.
My idea, which isn't fool proof is to try and find out
what their network IP
address is and write code in your site wide header to
redirect or block traffic
from a IP sub set, as long
If I read it right, he wants the site to be open, with all his own
customers and prospective customers getting access to everything, but
doesn't want to do his competitors' work for them. Make them do their
own homework. So having closed off areas wouldn't work - his own
prospective customers
==
If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
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From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Block Competitors from Web site
| If I read it right, he wants
Not an exact science but I believe you could either be very successful
at blocking a company's access. (i.e. all requests from from same subnet
/ point of presence)or very unsuccessful in that the company's
internet access may not be tied to their internet domain(s). (their
hosting may be
Be careful!
Competitors at work may be customers at home.
Kevin
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From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Block Competitors from Web site
Not an exact science but I believe you could either be very
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 12:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I know the user could just log in fromo their home connection to open
a TS
session outside of their company. I want to make sure they are
blocked from
the company.
This is very interesting. I've never actually heard of
When a competitor started hammering a client's web site quotation
system, we worked up some special pricing adjustments for anyone coming
from their connection. No warnings, relocations to disney.com etc. We
also built in a cookie-based usage limiter -- knowing full well those
can be
My thoughts are that you need a non-technological solution to this problem.
Anyone can spoof an IP address, go to your site from another domain, or
falsify their credentials to gain access to your information.
So an IP-based solution probably will not help - you probably don't know who
all of
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 10:30 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote:
Amusing anecdote, but if your competitors' IT staff is involved and
they
are not idiots you are going to waste a lot of time in your new job as
a
catherder.
And let's not forget Google and other search engines which cache
This is very interesting. I've never actually heard of anyone doing
something like this before.
You're kidding right?
I don't know about IIS, but I do know that
Apache will let you block requests in a variety of ways, including IP
address and/or domain names, so I believe you could fairly
Amusing anecdote, but if your competitors' IT staff is involved and they
are not idiots you are going to waste a lot of time in your new job as a
catherder.
I initially read that as 'new job as catheter', and thought that somebody
*really* made a poor career choice.
charlie
Regards,
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/TransitionPoint
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:18 PM
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On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 12:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Regards,
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/TransitionPoint
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From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:18 PM
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Just have a pre-page pop up that asks them if they are a competitor.
Problem solved.
just kidding :)
+---+
Bryan Love
Database Analyst
Macromedia Certified Professional
Internet Application Developer
TeleCommunication Systems
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Or limit the google robot to your main page only...
Stace
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From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:54 PM
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Regards,
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/TransitionPoint
Perhaps by leveraging the new evil bit...
http://www.armware.dk/RFC/rfc/rfc3514.html
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jon
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Tuesday, May 27, 2003, 12:39:49 PM, you wrote:
MK If I read it right, he wants the site to be open, with all his own
MK customers and prospective customers getting access to
, let it be in my day, that my child may have
peace'...
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Let's Roll
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:49 AM
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