Re: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread Wil Genovese
You're missing quotes. 1 : !--- if the cookie is here, procees to dashboard --- 2 : cfset validated_id=0 3 : cfif isDefined(session.userid) Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Aug 22, 2011,

RE: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread Robert Harrison
blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged -Original Message- From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@trunkful.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:53 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: What the heck You're missing quotes. 1 : !--- if the cookie is here, procees to dashboard

RE: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
It should be cfif isDefined(session.userid) isdefined requires what you are looking for to be in quotes unless the variable name you are looking for is stored in session.userid. Steve -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: Monday, August

Re: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread David McGuigan
IsDefined takes a string. But you'll want to do structKeyExists instead anyway. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: What am I missing here Element USERID is undefined in SESSION. The error occurred in

RE: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
Your comment mentions cookie .. should it be (cookie.userid)? -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: What the heck What am I missing here Element USERID is undefined in SESSION.

RE: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread Robert Harrison
Your comment mentions cookie .. should it be (cookie.userid)? That's further down :-) cfif isDefined(session.userid) cfif session.userid gt 0 cfset validated_id=#session.userid# /cfif cfelseif IsDefined(Cookie.StudentPortalUser) cfset

RE: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
cfif StructKeyExists(cookie,StudentPortalUser) Is what I would do Same with Session cfif StructKeyExists(Session,UserID) -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:rob...@austin-williams.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: What the heck

Re: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread Michael Grant
It doesn't really matter, but I just... can't... let... it... slide. No need for a single hash in this code. cfif isDefined(session.userid) cfif session.userid cfset validated_id = session.userid / /cfif cfelseif IsDefined(Cookie.StudentPortalUser) cfset

RE: What the heck

2011-08-22 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
What am I missing here That would be quotes... isdefined('session.userid') Prepare yourself for the suggestions of changing to structKeyExists(session, 'userid') .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com -Original Message- From: Robert

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 09 Mar 2009, Claude Schneegans wrote: Each memo field needs some special treatment and only some specific words are retrieved. So I need to simply read all records and loop on them. Use maxrows/startrow to do it in blocks of 1000 or something. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to centrally

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote: I've always thought that all what CFQUERY was doing was to create some connection to the database, and then the actual content of all records would be read as needed during some loop on the result set. That would be impossible for CF

RE: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Billy Cox
That doesn't work because getArmes contains only a count of the records in armesArmoriaux, not the actual records. -Original Message- From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:muse...@virtualtrials.com] Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: What the heck is happening during

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Seb Duggan
:44, Billy Cox wrote: That doesn't work because getArmes contains only a count of the records in armesArmoriaux, not the actual records. -Original Message- From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:muse...@virtualtrials.com] Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: What

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Fisher
More specifically, what are you going to do with 300,000 ntext fields ... that could potentially be many GB of data, which the server will be holding in active memory. As a general rule, I leave my ntext fields out of any query that's pulling a list of more than a few items.

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
It gets a connection from the pool, queries the DB, retrieves all the data and finally returns the connection to the pool. Well, I'm stunned. I was sure CF was better designed than that. I thought that data was retrieved as loops were going. Obviously course, with 300k records, CF is reading

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
I don't think this is unexpected behaviour It is not only unexpected, it is completely retarded. All ODBC/JDBC functions are designed so the database can be connected, then the SQL statement be compiled, then data retrieved row by row, as needed. Even dBase, Clipper, Foxpro worked this way.

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
There are a number of reasons why running the select directly in Access may appear much faster. 1) You are probably running it locally so there is no costly transfer of data between servers. I'm running the CF app locally also, so the difference does not come from connexion time. Anywa, the

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
Change it to this and the time should go down by a factor of about 100,000 Thanks, you bet this is what I would have done if I only needed the number of records ;-) The output of recordCount was there only for illustration purpose.

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote: All ODBC/JDBC functions are designed so the database can be connected, then the SQL statement be compiled, then data retrieved row by row, as needed. CF just needs all the records all the time because that is the only way to get a

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
More specifically, what are you going to do with 300,000 ntext fields I am creating a cross table index on word found in memo fields. Each memo field needs some special treatment and only some specific words are retrieved. So I need to simply read all records and loop on them. I found another

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
- if the resultset were never used the query would never be run on the server; Well, if the result set is not used, what is the advantage of having the query run anyway? - if the resultset were used multiple times the query would be run multiple times on the server; If the result set is

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Dominic Watson
CF just needs all the records all the time because that is the only way to get a recordcount. While I don't think that is quite true, I do think there is a good reason for having the resultset downloaded at once. ColdFusion expects you to use the recordset within the single request and this

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev
just out of curiosity: did you try experimenting with BLOCKFACTOR attribute of cfquery? i am just curious, since you already are retrieving such a large dataset, if using blockfactor makes any difference at all on processing time... Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Claude

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Fisher
IIRC, blockFactor is only relevant on the Oracle drivers, and it refers specifically to how Oracle expects to batch and return large recordsets. If Oracle is allowed to spool out large recordsets without returning them in blocks, it will often spin the DB server out of threads, which then

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
because that is the only way to get a recordcount. A big price in efficiency to pay for something we use only sometimes. Most of the time, we only need to know if there are records or not. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread John M Bliss
If that's all you need to know, use SELECT TOP 1... On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Claude Schneegans schneeg...@internetique.com wrote: because that is the only way to get a recordcount. A big price in efficiency to pay for something we use only sometimes. Most of the time, we only

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Seb Duggan
What we are really talking about here is having the right tool for the job. dBase, Clipper and FoxPro are all database management systems, and so are designed to work efficiently in examples like the one you are citing. ColdFusion is a Web Application server, designed to interact with a

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
Indeed, while the initial query may take longer, it is perhaps better performing than hitting the db on each iteration within the request. Thoughts? Perfectly right for small result sets. But as soon as the virtual memory must be used, each record will generate some read-write-reread action,

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
did you try experimenting with BLOCKFACTOR attribute of cfquery? i am just curious, since you already are retrieving such a large dataset, if using blockfactor makes any difference at all on processing time... The blockfactor is supposed to be one by default, but I tried it anyway, and no, it

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
blockFactor is only relevant on the Oracle drivers CF 5 doc says This parameter applies to ORACLE native database drivers and to ODBC drivers This is ambiguous, If it applies only to Oracle, it should be stated: This parameter applies to ORACLE native database drivers and to ORACLE ODBC

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote:  - if the resultset were never used the query would never be run on the server; Well, if the result set is not used, what is the advantage of having the query run anyway? A select isn't necessarily idempotent (if CF were able to

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Claude Schneegans wrote:  because that is the only way to get a recordcount. A big price in efficiency to pay for something we use only sometimes. Most of the time, we only need to know if there are records or not. That is what maxrows is for. The query will

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Dominic Watson wrote: CF just needs all the records all the time because that is the only way to get a recordcount. While I don't think that is quite true It is not strictly true. You can declare a cursor, do a move end, read from the metadata how many records

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Azadi Saryev
if cf did not get the full dataset from the db, would it still be able to show query debugging / execution times / etc, and would cf monitor still work and be able to show you long-running/unoptimized queries / etc? Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
(if CF were able to determine it was a select in the first place) Well, it must be able somehow to determine the query returns data, otherwise, how would it create a structure from any result set? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8

RE: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread brad
Subject: Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY? From: Claude Schneegans schneeg...@internetique.com Date: Mon, March 09, 2009 1:11 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com (if CF were able to determine it was a select in the first place) Well, it must be able somehow to determine

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
Regardless, CF wouldn't know if the cfquery was going to return a result set until after it had sent the commands to the database for execution and waited for the results to come back, and that would sort of defeat the purpose, wouldn't it? No, because the driver does not return the result set,

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-09 Thread Mike Chabot
It seems like you know a bit about databases. Why not write the looping code in the database using T-SQL, VB, or .NET and keep CF out of the picture entirely? What is CF providing that makes you want to use it for this index building task? It doesn't sound like you are serving up Web pages to

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-08 Thread James Holmes
Yes, CFQUERY reads all the content of the query. It gets a connection from the pool, queries the DB, retrieves all the data and finally returns the connection to the pool. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2009/3/9 Claude Schneegans

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-08 Thread Seb Duggan
The CFQUERY connects to the database, returns the whole of the resulting query result into the specified variable, then closes the connection; the variable is held in memory for the lifetime of the request. So, if you run a query that, as in this case, returns more than 300,000 records,

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-08 Thread Brad Wood
By the time the cfquery tag has finished executing the entire data set has been returned from the database and is loaded into memory in ColdFusion. If the cfquery tag is taking a very long time to complete then: 1) The actual SQL is taking a long time to complete. 2) and/or you are returning a

Re: What the heck is happening during CFQUERY?

2009-03-08 Thread Al Musella, DPM
Change it to this and the time should go down by a factor of about 100,000 : CFQUERY NAME=getArmes DATASOURCE=Armoriaux SELECT count (*) as N FROM armesArmoriaux /CFQUERY CFOUTPUTgetArmes.recordCount = #getArmes.n#BR cfquery.ExecutionTime = #cfquery.ExecutionTime#BR/CFOUTPUTCFABORT

RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-09 Thread Michael Traher
] Sent: 04 August 2003 20:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query? ::: CFSET egypt_Count = ListValueCountNoCase(ValueList(PA_CT.PA_COUNTRY),egypt) :: De-dupe the list then count it How you you do that, exactly? I need to be able to use #InsertNameOfCountryHere_Count

Re: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-04 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
you need to add the other columns in the group by clause... cfquery name=PA_CT datasource=phoenixart SELECT DISTINCT PA_COUNTRY, ID, PA_CATEGORY FROM papers GROUP BY PA_CATEGORY, ID, PA_COUNTRY /cfquery That should work... Mike - Original Message -

RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-04 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
cfquery name=PA_CT datasource=phoenixart SELECT DISTINCT PA_COUNTRY, ID, PA_CATEGORY FROM papers GROUP BY PA_CATEGORY, ID, PA_COUNTRY /cfquery will work. I think that all of the columns in a select distinct need to be in the groupby also if I remember correctly. -Original Message-

RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-04 Thread Turetsky, Seth
that you don't want grouped, ie MIN, MAX, AVG, COUNT...etc, varies on what db you use hth, seth -Original Message- From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query? cfquery name=PA_CT

RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-04 Thread Les Mizzell
The query itself doesn't error out like this, but I'm not getting the needed results to count categories like I need: cfquery name=PA_CT datasource=phoenixart SELECT DISTINCT PA_COUNTRY, ID, PA_CATEGORY FROM papers GROUP BY PA_COUNTRY, ID, PA_CATEGORY /cfquery CFSET egypt_Count =

RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-04 Thread Jack Poe
De-dupe the list then count it :) -Jack -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query? The query itself doesn't error out like this, but I'm not getting

RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-04 Thread Michael Traher
in this e-mail are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of ICLP. -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2003 15:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query? The query itself doesn't

RE: What the heck is wrong with this Query?

2003-08-04 Thread Les Mizzell
::: CFSET egypt_Count = ListValueCountNoCase(ValueList(PA_CT.PA_COUNTRY),egypt) :: De-dupe the list then count it How you you do that, exactly? I need to be able to use #InsertNameOfCountryHere_Count# anywhere on the page as needed - for each of some 30 different countries

Re: What the heck is wrong with 4.5 and my queries?

2000-04-19 Thread Erika Foster
error, but deleting the attribute altogether makes it run like a charm - like it did on 4.01. Thanks for the tips, hints and advice. Erika - Original Message - From: "Peter Tilbrook" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: RE: What the

RE: What the heck is wrong with 4.5 and my queries?

2000-04-18 Thread Duane Boudreau
Make sure your database file is not read only Duane -Original Message- From: Erika Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 12:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What the heck is wrong with 4.5 and my queries? The first problem I encountered after

RE: What the heck is wrong with 4.5 and my queries?

2000-04-18 Thread Peter Tilbrook
The custom tag just might not be compatible with 4.5. I had to go back to 4.01 for a similar reason (but with a CFX). -Original Message- From: Erika Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2000 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What the heck is wrong with 4.5 and