Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-27 Thread Kym Kovan
On 28/05/2010 11:38, BarryC wrote: Did those references you found say anything about the specific version of windows server 2008, or just in general? There is 2008 R2 for example, but we are on the standard 2008 - not sure if there would be any difference there? The changes came in with straigh

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-27 Thread Kym Kovan
On 28/05/2010 06:59, BarryC wrote: Yes, that's correct Charlie. Kym, the NFS is a proper NFS. and I've been googling and it seems in a lot of contexts NFS on 2008 is faster than most linux versions. It used to run like a dog and MS brought a new stack in 2008 that goes like a train. So NFS p

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-27 Thread charlie arehart
legroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of > Kym Kovan > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:52 AM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit > > On 27/05/2010 13:22, BarryC wrote: > > Hi, > > >

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-26 Thread Kym Kovan
On 27/05/2010 13:22, BarryC wrote: Hi, After some more testing, thread dumps and operating system process monitoring, we have found that there seems to be a performance issue with files when accessed via NFS. The slow part is when file attributes are being requested for a file on the NFS (this w

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-26 Thread charlie arehart
Will be interesting to hear the resolution. I'll note that this was indeed one of the contentions I made in my first reply on the thread, when I said that if you had files "on another server or SAN/NAS, that i/o can be costly in some configurations (not inherently so, but worth considering)."

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-19 Thread charlie arehart
Thanks for the update. I don't know the answer to your question, but I'll share a thought: you mention that you're load testing stuff. Is that perchance on a local development box? If so, is it perhaps some trial or lower-end version of Win2k8? I just ask because I know that in past Windows OS's

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-18 Thread charlie arehart
Hmmso, given that you've now told us that the line 424 that's always showing up is doing a filexists(expandpath()), doesn't it seem that this is at the root of the problem? Have you done some debugging to see what the path is that it's expanding? Maybe it's on some drive that's not giving a q

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-18 Thread charlie arehart
Sure, but to be clear, I was answering Mr B's question in that note rather than yours. I'm guessing your note here is a reply to both notes (mine to MrB and the earlier one to you, sent about 30 minutes earlier). To your points below, it's interesting to hear now that you're saying that using t

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-18 Thread charlie arehart
/charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:42 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit Hi BarryC, I note from your thread dump that you are runni

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-18 Thread charlie arehart
Well, Barry, this may all be too much to be trying to cover in an email, but here goes. One caution I'll offer is that you do want to be careful just taking "a" thread dump and trying to make use of it. First, you really need to compare two in a row, because it's showing what java methods we

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-18 Thread MrBuzzy
Hi BarryC, I note from your thread dump that you are running BOTH FusionReactor and Adobe ColdFusion Server Monitoring. As you have the luxury of both, I would advise disabling the CF Monitoring. It just seems to cause problems. (Does any one else agree?) -- You received this message because you

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Onnis
If not a permission issue, an access issue? Are the files in use or being used another process that is locking the files? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread charlie arehart
Barry, I have a few thoughts for you, if it remains unresolved. First, I notice that your stack trace has this near the top: java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged That makes me wonder, and it's just a guess: do you have Sandbox or Resource Security enabled in CF? The former is the name in

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Kym Kovan
On 18/05/2010 10:35, BarryC wrote: I have ensured logging is not on, I'm not 100% sure if it was on or off, but my subsequent tests are all the same response times. What do you mean by a file with a funny or two in the middle? I was looking at this one, and misread it :-) >>>at coldfu

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Andrew Myers
It's not a file permission issue is it? They have tripped me up a number of times on unix/linux servers. I am not sure about Windows but I would be checking it has read permissions. On Tue, 18 May 2010 10:11:07 +1000, Kym Kovan wrote: On 18/05/2010 09:40, BarryC wrote: Hi Kym or Kai,

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Kai Koenig
heap into >> generations etc. I've seen machines with 8 GB RAM and a 6 GB JVM heap and >> they behaved completely different with the same applications but different >> inner-generational memory settings. >> >> Kai >> >> >> >>> So wi

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Kym Kovan
On 18/05/2010 09:40, BarryC wrote: Hi Kym or Kai, or anyone with a successfully working CF9 64bit install... What is the JRE version that is actually on the server? the one we are using is 1.6.0_14 Same here. Also, some info, the kind of things showing in the thread dumps a lot are native me

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Kai Koenig
ay 2010 7:11 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit > > Among others that you might all of a sudden deal with a larger heap, > different ratios between generations etc. > > Cheers > Kai > > >> Hmm w

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Kai Koenig
t; > -Original Message- > From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] > Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 3:57 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit > > I would not in general blame 64bit CF - seriously. There are

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Onnis
So with that sort of thingis more better? like is a parger heap better than a smaller heap? _ From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 7:11 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit Among others

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Kai Koenig
Among others that you might all of a sudden deal with a larger heap, different ratios between generations etc. Cheers Kai > Hmm what are these 'requirements' you speak of? > > On 17 May 2010 15:57, Kai Koenig wrote: > I would not in general blame 64bit CF - seriously. There are huge > insta

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Onnis
Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 3:57 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit I would not in general blame 64bit CF - seriously. There are huge installations out there just running fine on it and I know a f

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-17 Thread MrBuzzy
Hmm what are these 'requirements' you speak of? On 17 May 2010 15:57, Kai Koenig wrote: > I would not in general blame 64bit CF - seriously. There are huge > installations out there just running fine on it and I know a few of them > really well. > > What you will find though with 64bit CF is tha

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-16 Thread Kai Koenig
I would not in general blame 64bit CF - seriously. There are huge installations out there just running fine on it and I know a few of them really well. What you will find though with 64bit CF is that is has quite different requirements for setting up the JVM, assigning memory to it etc. Cheers

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-16 Thread Kym Kovan
On 17/05/2010 12:41, BarryC wrote: Hi Kym, your setup sounds rather similar to ours, What is your version (including updater if any) of CF if you don't mind me asking? Sorry should have mentioned that. CF 9 Enterprise - out of the box. (The latest updater has _not_ been put on :-) ) -- Yo

Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-16 Thread Paul Kukiel
We have been running CF9 on Win 2k8 64bit with no issues. Here is once piece of advice if you are running IIS. http://blog.kukiel.net/2009/10/coldfusion-9-on-windows-server-2008.html The 2nd Comment. /Open jrun_iis6_wildcard.ini and uncomment "maxworkerthreads" and set it to a value higher

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-16 Thread Steve Onnis
Well I submitted jvm dumps to adobe support and they came up with nothing -Original Message- From: BarryC [mailto:barrychester...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 12:21 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit Thanks Steve, we might have a g

RE: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 9 and Windows server 2008 64bit

2010-05-16 Thread Steve Onnis
To be honest I think it’s the 64bit CF server. I had lots of issues with cf writing file such as cfmail files and doing heavy db access processes like loops, issues that I never had with the 32 bit platform. I had some real bad memory consumption issues also, so bad the cf server was becoming unre