[cfaussie] Re: Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Dave
Steve, If you want to see what's in memory in terms of what objects, data, etc are on the Heap then you will need take a heap dump and analyse it. I use tools like VisualVM and MAT to do this. See: http://www.alagad.com/blog/post.cfm/troubleshooting-coldfusion-performance-analysis-part-ii for

[cfaussie] Coldfusion7 to Coldfusion8, JVM config

2010-02-18 Thread BarryC
Hi, We are migrating from Coldfusion7 to Coldfusion8 and I wondered if anyone was up to date on the config parameters for the JVM for Coldfusion 8 (JRE 1.6.X) and has some recommendations. What by the way (if somebody knows) is Dsun.io.useCanonCaches or DJINTEGRA_NATIVE_MODE or

RE: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread charlie arehart
Following up my last note, as for determining memory used per request, I would say there is more to that question than just the simple one asked. Besides addressing if FR/SF can do it, I would also ask if it's really what is needed most times. FR/SF cannot track memory per request:

Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion7 to Coldfusion8, JVM config

2010-02-18 Thread Kai Koenig
Barry, I wouldn't get religious when it comes to JVM config for such a move. As the only thing you seem to have changed in the CF 7 JVM args are memory sizes, I would for a start just go with those settings on CF 8 and see how you go. Monitor the machine and it's memory, stats, CPU, logs, GC

RE: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Steve Onnis
Charlie Thanks for the response. I have always had memory issues with CF8 64 Bit and even now i have allocated 2Gb of RAM to the CF server which it seems to be running out of. Even though you mentioned that viewing the memory usage in the task manager is not very reliable, i do see it increase

Re: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Kai Koenig
If you are indeed running out of memory and the machine becomes unresponsive, the first thing I would do would be logging on the JVM level as well as on the CF level (Jrun metrics and/or cfstat). Also thread dumps when it crashes etc. That will already tell you a lot what's going on. Still

RE: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Steve Onnis
lol.running out of memory :) I need to know what exactly is causing it which is why i am wanting request level information _ From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] Sent: Friday, 19 February 2010 1:22 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion

Re: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Kai Koenig
In which part of your jvm? Heap? PermGen? Premature ageing of objects? How soon after restart? How often? What else happens on the machine? What's the CPU load at the time? How does it die? Have you created and analysed stack traces and heap dumps? etc etc etc I'm afraid there's no

RE: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Steve Onnis
In which part of your jvm? Dont know what you mean Heap? huh? PermGen? more huh? Premature ageing of objects? more huh? How soon after restart? Depends on the load. Somtimes can be ok for days and other times like nowa few hours How often? Depends on the load What else

Re: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Kai Koenig
See, and that's exactly the issue you're facing. That might sound harsh, but there is no magic bullet to solve your problem and if you want to work out what the problem is yourself, you might need to start reading a bunch of Sun's JVM documentation, CF documentation and lots of blog posts and

Re: [cfaussie] Seefusoin Vs Fusion Reactor

2010-02-18 Thread Brett Payne-Rhodes
Maybe this would help to learn about stack traces and heap dumps: http://www.ghidinelli.com/2009/07/16/finding-memory-leaks-coldfusion-jvm B) Steve Onnis wrote: In which part of your jvm? Dont know what you mean Heap? huh? PermGen? more huh? Premature ageing of objects? more huh?

[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion7 to Coldfusion8, JVM config

2010-02-18 Thread BarryC
Thanks. We are in the process of running it in a test environment :) On Feb 19, 3:01 pm, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote: Barry, I wouldn't get religious when it comes to JVM config for such a move. As the only thing you seem to have changed in the CF 7 JVM args are memory sizes, I would