[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Onnis
] On Behalf Of Mike Kear Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 3:50 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle You can learn about LifeCycle by all means, Steve, but dont expect it to turn into a business opportunity. They have it stitched up in Australia to two companies

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 6/29/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fat chance of that happening. I am more interested in what the lite version does and how i can use it. I believe it's use to implement the functionality of some of the new tags. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Onnis
But you can choose to install it or not. So if you don't install it some tags wont work? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 4:04 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Mandel
] *On Behalf Of *Mike Kear *Sent:* Friday, 29 June 2007 3:50 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle You can learn about LifeCycle by all means, Steve, but dont expect it to turn into a business opportunity. They have it stitched up in Australia to two

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 6/29/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you can choose to install it or not. So if you don't install it some tags wont work? Since I haven't tried install CF8, I'm assuming it's not an option. Afterall it's a lite version, so it's there for a reason. Chris -- Chris Velevitch

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Mike Kear
LiveCycle is a product that is an enterprise product. It's purpose is to take the programmatic aspects of PDFs (amongst other things) and incorporate business rules, work flow, design and automate many of the day-to-day business functions. To make a sale to (say) a medium size organisation

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 6/29/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It asks you is you want to install it, asks you for a full license key or if you just want to install the lite version. A rough read of the installation manual, indicates it's totally optional, but if you do decide to install it, you can install

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Mandel
Stupid Question Steve - You talking Live Cycle Data Services (which is what is installed with ColdFusion) or you talking Live Cycle Enterprise Services, which is the whole suite of Enterprise PDF tools that Mike was talking about? Mark On 6/29/07, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Onnis
] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 4:57 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle Stupid Question Steve - You talking Live Cycle Data Services (which is what is installed with ColdFusion) or you talking Live Cycle Enterprise Services, which

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Mark Mandel
: Friday, 29 June 2007 4:57 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle Stupid Question Steve - You talking Live Cycle Data Services (which is what is installed with ColdFusion) or you talking Live Cycle Enterprise Services, which is the whole suite

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 6/29/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a stupid question. Just uneducated. So rephrase the question. What does Live Cycle Data Services do, how can I find out more about what it does and how to use it, and my CPU question still stands :) Livecycle Data Services is just Flex

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Onnis
Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 5:05 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle On 6/29/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a stupid question. Just uneducated. So rephrase the question. What does Live Cycle Data Services do, how can I

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Tilbrook
I believe the CF8 LSDS are the grunt behind the great new PDF manipulation features. -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread MrBuzzy
You only need LCDS if you are doing Flex. Steve, here's a few things you ca do with it; Connect it to your CF Gateways - flex messaging service, flex data service, etc - CF can 'push' data to Flex clients via LCDS (this is the only way to do 'push'). - Use CFCs to 'manage' data updates and

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread MrBuzzy
LCDS can be used to manipulate and generate PDF, for delivery on Flex, etc. Unless I was dreaming. On 6/29/07, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/29/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just about to say that. Looking at the write up at Adobe, that's all it is, so

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Chris Velevitch
On 6/29/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just about to say that. Looking at the write up at Adobe, that's all it is, so am I correct in saying that it has nothing at all to do with PDF population or any PDF generation what so ever? Yes. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager -

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Well you need the LiveCycle Designer 8 (with Acrobat 8) to prepare your PDF's at least. Will that ship with CF8 I wonder? On 29/06/07, MrBuzzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LCDS can be used to manipulate and generate PDF, for delivery on Flex, etc. Unless I was dreaming. On 6/29/07, Chris

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-29 Thread MrBuzzy
Wile I have no idea about Acrobat products, this was easy to find... http://livedocs.adobe.com/livecycle/es/sdkHelp/programmer/lcds/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Partsfile=pdfgen_3.html Using the PDF generation feature There are two approaches to this feature. You can

[cfaussie] Re: CF8 and LifeCycle

2007-06-28 Thread Mike Kear
You can learn about LifeCycle by all means, Steve, but dont expect it to turn into a business opportunity. They have it stitched up in Australia to two companies and any work you do will have to go through them. They wont allow any new entrants into the lifecycle product. I've got knowledge of