Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
Keeps freezing on me so have stuck with Dreamweaver CS5.5 - I hated DW with a passion in the days of Studio/HomeSite but it has matured into a great product I use virtually all day everyday. The new HTML5 additions and the updatable (not automatically sadly) jQuery mobile templates are a bonus for me. Peter Tilbrook Web Administrator, The Club Group Pty. Ltd. Managing Director, ColdGen Internet Solutions Professional Adobe ColdFusion 9 Application Development President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-2-0457-449-016 Email Address: pe...@coldgen.com WWW: http://www.coldgen.com/ WWW2: http://www.clubgroup.com.au/ Twitter: @ColdGen ABN: 80 826 226 128 On 29 November 2011 17:49, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Barry, Very interesting. I've never even noticed the Aptana search tab there. This could well explain why some users found it better than others. Great tipz Andrew On 29/11/2011, at 12:20 PM, Barry Chesterman barrychester...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on CFBuilder2 and I have to say the default search which uses Aptana File Search was horrid - like you say, no way to jump to the line in the file where the search result is. However, in the search dialog under Customize.. I turned off the Aptana File Search and now just use the 'File search' option which shows the lines in files search results are on and allows you to jump forwards and backwards through search results. I found the aptana search would quite often not find a match for my search when I knew that value was in a file in the area I was searching so that was very wierd. Since not using the Aptana search I haven't had a problem. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use the File Search panel it works. From: M@ Bourke [mailto:m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Select the results you wish to replace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
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Has anyone got the search/replace to work on a project in ColdFusion Builder 2 ? If i do a search i get results but when i do a replace it says it couldn't find anything... From: Steve Onnis [mailto:st...@cfcentral.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 9:51 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions I thought i might have been the only having these experiences one but it looks like im not so i may just forward them onto Adobe J From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 6:59 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Just a random thought (note: I don't have/see any of those issues people seem to have with the product - I actually think the search works great)... Have you guys ever tried to make those suggestions/rants to Adobe. Not to Adobe corporate - we all know that it's ... well... rather difficult to get through to them. But to the CF/CF Builder product/engineering team directly? To (ex)-folks in product management like Adam or Rakshith? To Hemant or Rupesh in engineering management? Or to Terry? They've been to events like webDU or cf.O(ANZ) in the past - or - hey, actually just last week. The CF product team is _by far_ the easiest-to-approach product team within whole Adobe. If anyone _honestly_ wants to get in touch with those guys and help to improve the software so that it's more useful for you or your team or your whole company - I'm more than happy to put you in touch, just let me know. Instead of complaining how much one misses Homesite or how bad one thinks CFB is etc - do something about it if you don't like it. Give direct feedback. Ask them for solutions/workarounds. Ask them to be part of pre-release programs and contribute in there. But don't magically expect a tool that's exactly doing what you want it to do and exactly how you want it to be done. Just saying, Kai I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I have tried so hard to like it. This is my second go at using it and I have been on it for 6 months or more now and I still don't like it nearly as much as HomeSite+. Might be a great CFUG to demo a few other options like IntelliJ etc. Rawdy On Nov 24, 6:09 pm, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all, and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match in each file. Click it to go to the exact line of the match. By default the search view opens in the right hand pane. I prefer to move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view). If you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. Have never seen this myself. Has anyone else noticed it? - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I also like to to enable the Wrap search option too - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. I don't see this behaviour at all. CTRL - F allows you to repeat your search on every open file - select files using the workspace editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want. Andrew. On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Refer to my first email -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions What makes you say so? On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Thats the worst search feature of them all -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert
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The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use the File Search panel it works. From: M@ Bourke [mailto:m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Select the results you wish to replace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
I'm on CFBuilder2 and I have to say the default search which uses Aptana File Search was horrid - like you say, no way to jump to the line in the file where the search result is. However, in the search dialog under Customize.. I turned off the Aptana File Search and now just use the 'File search' option which shows the lines in files search results are on and allows you to jump forwards and backwards through search results. I found the aptana search would quite often not find a match for my search when I knew that value was in a file in the area I was searching so that was very wierd. Since not using the Aptana search I haven't had a problem. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use the File Search panel it works. ** ** *From:* M@ Bourke [mailto:m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:16 AM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions ** ** Select the results you wish to replace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
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Hi Barry, Very interesting. I've never even noticed the Aptana search tab there. This could well explain why some users found it better than others. Great tipz Andrew On 29/11/2011, at 12:20 PM, Barry Chesterman barrychester...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on CFBuilder2 and I have to say the default search which uses Aptana File Search was horrid - like you say, no way to jump to the line in the file where the search result is. However, in the search dialog under Customize.. I turned off the Aptana File Search and now just use the 'File search' option which shows the lines in files search results are on and allows you to jump forwards and backwards through search results. I found the aptana search would quite often not find a match for my search when I knew that value was in a file in the area I was searching so that was very wierd. Since not using the Aptana search I haven't had a problem. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: The Aptana panel replace function says there are no results, but if i use the File Search panel it works. From: M@ Bourke [mailto:m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 11:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Select the results you wish to replace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
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I often find, that when searching on a string that exists it will say it doesn't lol however I pretty much always do a regex search which seems to always find what I'm after. cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
I thought i might have been the only having these experiences one but it looks like im not so i may just forward them onto Adobe J From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 6:59 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Just a random thought (note: I don't have/see any of those issues people seem to have with the product - I actually think the search works great)... Have you guys ever tried to make those suggestions/rants to Adobe. Not to Adobe corporate - we all know that it's ... well... rather difficult to get through to them. But to the CF/CF Builder product/engineering team directly? To (ex)-folks in product management like Adam or Rakshith? To Hemant or Rupesh in engineering management? Or to Terry? They've been to events like webDU or cf.O(ANZ) in the past - or - hey, actually just last week. The CF product team is _by far_ the easiest-to-approach product team within whole Adobe. If anyone _honestly_ wants to get in touch with those guys and help to improve the software so that it's more useful for you or your team or your whole company - I'm more than happy to put you in touch, just let me know. Instead of complaining how much one misses Homesite or how bad one thinks CFB is etc - do something about it if you don't like it. Give direct feedback. Ask them for solutions/workarounds. Ask them to be part of pre-release programs and contribute in there. But don't magically expect a tool that's exactly doing what you want it to do and exactly how you want it to be done. Just saying, Kai I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I have tried so hard to like it. This is my second go at using it and I have been on it for 6 months or more now and I still don't like it nearly as much as HomeSite+. Might be a great CFUG to demo a few other options like IntelliJ etc. Rawdy On Nov 24, 6:09 pm, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all, and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match in each file. Click it to go to the exact line of the match. By default the search view opens in the right hand pane. I prefer to move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view). If you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. Have never seen this myself. Has anyone else noticed it? - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I also like to to enable the Wrap search option too - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. I don't see this behaviour at all. CTRL - F allows you to repeat your search on every open file - select files using the workspace editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want. Andrew. On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Refer to my first email -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions What makes you say so? On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Thats the worst search feature of them all -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
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I have to say - this week I started working in IntelliJ again, just to see how it was going with the new 11 release coming out. I am really, really, really liking it. It definitely has some rough edges, and it's been a bit of a learning curve, but man is it FAST, and it does some really nice stuff around component path completion and the like. Worth having a poke at if you're not satisfied with Builder. Mark On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts? For me:- - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex - Nov 17, 18 - Melbourne Australia http://www.cfobjective.com.au 2 Devs from Down Under Podcast http://www.2ddu.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
Tweaking the eclipse.ini seems to help with CF Builder also. These are the vmargs I use, and it's a lot nicer than it was... -vmargs -XX:+UseParallelGC -XX:PermSize=256M -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -XX:+UseParallelGC -XX:PermSize=256M -XX:MaxPermSize=512M On 24 November 2011 16:57, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: A couple of the guys at AusPost were using that. It looked really nice too and the IDE seemed very fast, much faster than eclipse From: Mark Mandel [mailto:mark.man...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 4:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions I have to say - this week I started working in IntelliJ again, just to see how it was going with the new 11 release coming out. I am really, really, really liking it. It definitely has some rough edges, and it's been a bit of a learning curve, but man is it FAST, and it does some really nice stuff around component path completion and the like. Worth having a poke at if you're not satisfied with Builder. Mark On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts? For me:- - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex - Nov 17, 18 - Melbourne Australia http://www.cfobjective.com.au 2 Devs from Down Under Podcast http://www.2ddu.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts? For me:- - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
Thats the worst search feature of them all -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts? For me:- - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
What makes you say so? On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Thats the worst search feature of them all -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts? For me:- - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
Refer to my first email -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions What makes you say so? On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Thats the worst search feature of them all -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts? For me:- - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
- The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all, and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match in each file. Click it to go to the exact line of the match. By default the search view opens in the right hand pane. I prefer to move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view). If you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. Have never seen this myself. Has anyone else noticed it? - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I also like to to enable the Wrap search option too - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. I don't see this behaviour at all. CTRL - F allows you to repeat your search on every open file - select files using the workspace editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want. Andrew. On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Refer to my first email -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions What makes you say so? On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Thats the worst search feature of them all -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts? For me:- - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a No file open message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions
Just a random thought (note: I don't have/see any of those issues people seem to have with the product - I actually think the search works great)... Have you guys ever tried to make those suggestions/rants to Adobe. Not to Adobe corporate - we all know that it's ... well... rather difficult to get through to them. But to the CF/CF Builder product/engineering team directly? To (ex)-folks in product management like Adam or Rakshith? To Hemant or Rupesh in engineering management? Or to Terry? They've been to events like webDU or cf.O(ANZ) in the past - or - hey, actually just last week. The CF product team is _by far_ the easiest-to-approach product team within whole Adobe. If anyone _honestly_ wants to get in touch with those guys and help to improve the software so that it's more useful for you or your team or your whole company - I'm more than happy to put you in touch, just let me know. Instead of complaining how much one misses Homesite or how bad one thinks CFB is etc - do something about it if you don't like it. Give direct feedback. Ask them for solutions/workarounds. Ask them to be part of pre-release programs and contribute in there. But don't magically expect a tool that's exactly doing what you want it to do and exactly how you want it to be done. Just saying, Kai I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I have tried so hard to like it. This is my second go at using it and I have been on it for 6 months or more now and I still don't like it nearly as much as HomeSite+. Might be a great CFUG to demo a few other options like IntelliJ etc. Rawdy On Nov 24, 6:09 pm, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: - The search is just useless really. If you search for something in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into the line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to hunt through the file CTRL - F, change scope to projects, select a project, press find all, and you get a search results view which has a tree view which has next match / previous match options, and expands to show each match in each file. Click it to go to the exact line of the match. By default the search view opens in the right hand pane. I prefer to move it to the bottom pane (somewhere near the servers view). If you're not seeing it go to Window - Show View - Search - Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey. I always get a “No file open” message and im like WTF? I have to select a different source and then choose the Current document option again for it to work. Have never seen this myself. Has anyone else noticed it? - There is no direction option for the search which means if you want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the document for it to search the whole thing In the CTRL - F dialog there is a search backwards option I also like to to enable the Wrap search option too - You have to open a new search box for every file you have open. I don't see this behaviour at all. CTRL - F allows you to repeat your search on every open file - select files using the workspace editor tabs and repeat the search in there if you want. Andrew. On 24 November 2011 17:46, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Refer to my first email -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:37 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions What makes you say so? On 24 November 2011 17:21, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Thats the worst search feature of them all -Original Message- From: Andrew Myers [mailto:am2...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2011 5:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions Also, from an open File you can do CTRL F which brings up a find dialog similar to Dreamweaver where you can search current document, all open documents, project, workspace, etc. Initially I disliked this, because it is different to Eclipse's default behaviour. But it's pretty good. On 24 November 2011 16:31, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote: So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree structure with a drillable list of hits. You double click on a hit and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file and highlights the hit. I don't find it that different to Homsite from what I can remember. Also, up and down arrows in the top of the search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and then across files. I think it's all right. Peter Robertson On Nov 24, 3:42 pm, Steve Onnis st
