Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Peddle
Some anti - oo here: http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htm Justin Treher wrote: I was browsing around some old OO ColdFusion posts and saw a lot of talk by “Tom MInderson”. It seems like he has about 50 posts spread out (by doing a quick Google search). They all pretty much say the

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Kotek
Sounds like someone who doesn't get OO and has decided that he must be right and the rest of the programming world is wrong. On 8/29/07, Justin Treher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do see his point that trying to map objects to a relational database is where OOP starts to feel really unnatural. In

RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Justin Treher
] Tom Minderson and anti-OO Some anti - oo here: http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htm Justin Treher wrote: I was browsing around some old OO ColdFusion posts and saw a lot of talk by Tom MInderson. It seems like he has about 50 posts spread out (by doing a quick Google search

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Kotek
Just the fact that it is hosted at geocities should give you all the information you need. ;-) On 8/29/07, Brian Peddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some anti - oo here: http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htm You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions at

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Barney Boisvert
I like OO. I don't do full OO models in CF much. Java (where I spend the most time outside of CF) is a different story - and one where I have tools such as Hibernate ;). I really just wanted to comment on this statement: In addition, with the business objects we deal with, it seems

RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brent Nicholas
PROTECTED] To: cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:07:25 -0400 Yeah, I read a bit of that. I also think Minderson responded to that. He noted that it was very one sided. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brent Nicholas
, I don't have time..Brent Nicholas - There, I guess King George will be able to read that! - John Hancock From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cfcdev@cfczone.org Subject: RE: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:07:25 -0400 Yeah, I read a bit of that. I also think Minderson

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Matt Woodward
On 8/29/07, Brent Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OO's fine if you: have a lot of expertise in it and write applications you host Not sure what hosting has to do with it. OO's fine if you: will need to use common objects (get from db, store in db, look up customer, get site details)

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Stijn Dreezen
Smarter minds used to say 540K ought to be enough for everybody, and even they got away with it. On Wed, 29 Aug 2007, Brian Kotek wrote: Sounds like someone who doesn't get OO and has decided that he must be right and the rest of the programming world is wrong. On 8/29/07, Justin Treher

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Kotek
? On 8/29/07, Stijn Dreezen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smarter minds used to say 540K ought to be enough for everybody, and even they got away with it. You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, please follow the instructions at http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm CFCDev is supported

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Peter J. Farrell
I think the missing word is memory as in RAM on a motherboard. Brian Kotek said the following on 8/29/2007 8:05 PM: ? On 8/29/07, *Stijn Dreezen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smarter minds used to say 540K ought to be enough for everybody, and even they got

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Cameron Childress
First, I think it's significant that these are old posts. Second, I see this sort of thing alot where people seem to think that there is only one true answer to a problem and proceed to ferociously defend that solution as if there were no other possible solution as cool as the one they are

Re: [CFCDEV] Tom Minderson and anti-OO

2007-08-29 Thread Jennifer Larkin
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