[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-05 Thread PaulTopping
I did propose that to the WebKit developer list a few years back but I suppose it is time again. Unless things have changed, they seem dead set against anything that is not open source. Paul On Dec 4, 11:06 pm, Darin Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An extension like that would have to involve

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-05 Thread Marc-Antoine Ruel
As an argument, you could say that isn't it funny activex controls can override the specified viewport size and even resize itself whenever it wants while a NPAPI has no control on its viewport? M-A On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:52 AM, PaulTopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did propose that to

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-05 Thread Peter Kasting
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:09 AM, PaulTopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't NPAPI considered somewhat dead technology? Supported but not a venue for enhancement. No, there is a group dedicated to enhancing it, and proposals for how to improve things. It doesn't get as much attention as a lot

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-02 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:06 AM, PaulTopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, NPAPI requires that the amount of space the equation takes up on a page be known in advance, rather than be calculated at run-time to be dependent on the MathML content. There is no support for baseline

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-02 Thread PaulTopping
On Dec 2, 9:59 am, Peter Kasting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:06 AM, PaulTopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I know, NPAPI requires that the amount of space the equation takes up on a page be known in advance, rather than be calculated at run-time to be

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-02 Thread Peter Kasting
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM, PaulTopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was my hope that others would read this and think of problems it might solve. SVG support could be done this way, as I suggested. In general, I think it leads to a more modular approach to browser architecture. It would

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-02 Thread PaulTopping
Actually, our MathPlayer implementation in Internet Explorer is a good proof-of-concept. It is a plugin that interfaces with IE using a small set of interfaces most of which (events, DOM) already would exist in any browser. It performs very well and has been available for years, starting with IE

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel A. White
I know this might sound off topic, but why don't you code a JavaScript parser? It could be easily ported to other browsers. Daniel A. White On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:54 PM, PaulTopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, our MathPlayer implementation in Internet Explorer is a good

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-01 Thread Evan Martin
The right place to put MathML support, I think, would be in WebKit. That way Safari and other browsers benefit too. The WebKit project has an open bug indicating they would like support: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3251 They also have a working patch for some preliminary support,

[chromium-dev] Re: MathML and math accessibility as a Chromium plugin

2008-12-01 Thread PaulTopping
Sure, but they don't have a plugin mechanism capable of supporting it. This was the reason for my post. For business reasons, we do not want to make MathPlayer open source. Our MathML rendering engine and math- to-speech software are core parts of our business. We have approached the Safari