RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!
How do I know that the guest piece doesn't reflect the Post's editorial position? Because I've seen them compare current politicians unfavorably to Churchill in editorials on more than one occasion. As for "periodic" guest columns, it's not "periodic" at all. It's routine, and it predated the Internet, so I don't think we can call them "clickbait." But the real point is that you can't assume that the Post's op-eds must reflect the paper's editorial position. This is demonstrably not the case. -Original Message- From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 8:19 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Chris, I subscribed to the Wapo for about 10 years, after moving out east in the mid-90's - but then could no longer stand to pay for what was happening to the paper. I dropped the sub and since then have read it only online. I do agree with your point about the fact that they carry periodic guest columns from those who do not correctly toe the party line. It may be the cynic in me, but I believe many of them are placed in there as good red meat just to get the righteous riled up and the twitterati reaching for their keyboard pitchforks. Ed Rodgers is a good example. Clickbait, after all, helps pay the bills. However, I am curious as to how you come to the conclusion that this article does not 'accurately reflect the Post's editorial position'. Based on prior output, what is their editorial position on WSC? The article seems to me to fit right in with what has been a generally sympathetic attitude to items such as the tearing down of statues and 'decolonialisation' (whatever the heck that is). On the positive side, I used to love the Post's comics page - until they shrunk it beyond readability. And did away with the Book World section. :-) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:25 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Sorry, but I've subscribed to the Post for more than forty years, and I assure you that it routinely publishes op-eds that are diametrically opposed to the its own editorial position. George Will's column, for example, has been based at the Post since 1974 and is distributed to 450 other newspapers. Aside from baseball and a mutual distaste for the current President, it's hard to think of anything he and the Post agree on. Obviously, I disagree vehemently with this particular piece. But it was not written by the Post, nor does it accurately reflect the Post's editorial position--just as George Will's periodic columns about global warming are the polar opposite of the Post's position on that subject. -Original Message- From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:06 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Sorry, but I cannot imagine even a "liberal" newspaper publishing "opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions". This Indian official's text is venomous - and the paper knew it and deliberately published it regardless. "They hate us", your President correctly said of other people in another context - this fully applies to this Indian official : "he hates Churchill" - full stop. No educated editor (as one may expect of a publication with a claim to seriousness) could miss the fact - and the paper did not publish a paragraph distancing itself from the offensive opinion proffered. So it endorses it by default. With all best wishes, Antoine CAPET, FRHistS Professor emeritus of British Studies University of Rouen 76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan France antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr 'Britain since 1914' Section Editor Royal Historical Society Bibliography https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355 ========== From: Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions. From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! I note that the Washington Pos
RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!
Chris, I subscribed to the Wapo for about 10 years, after moving out east in the mid-90's - but then could no longer stand to pay for what was happening to the paper. I dropped the sub and since then have read it only online. I do agree with your point about the fact that they carry periodic guest columns from those who do not correctly toe the party line. It may be the cynic in me, but I believe many of them are placed in there as good red meat just to get the righteous riled up and the twitterati reaching for their keyboard pitchforks. Ed Rodgers is a good example. Clickbait, after all, helps pay the bills. However, I am curious as to how you come to the conclusion that this article does not 'accurately reflect the Post's editorial position'. Based on prior output, what is their editorial position on WSC? The article seems to me to fit right in with what has been a generally sympathetic attitude to items such as the tearing down of statues and 'decolonialisation' (whatever the heck that is). On the positive side, I used to love the Post's comics page - until they shrunk it beyond readability. And did away with the Book World section. :-) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:25 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Sorry, but I've subscribed to the Post for more than forty years, and I assure you that it routinely publishes op-eds that are diametrically opposed to the its own editorial position. George Will's column, for example, has been based at the Post since 1974 and is distributed to 450 other newspapers. Aside from baseball and a mutual distaste for the current President, it's hard to think of anything he and the Post agree on. Obviously, I disagree vehemently with this particular piece. But it was not written by the Post, nor does it accurately reflect the Post's editorial position--just as George Will's periodic columns about global warming are the polar opposite of the Post's position on that subject. -Original Message- From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:06 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Sorry, but I cannot imagine even a "liberal" newspaper publishing "opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions". This Indian official's text is venomous - and the paper knew it and deliberately published it regardless. "They hate us", your President correctly said of other people in another context - this fully applies to this Indian official : "he hates Churchill" - full stop. No educated editor (as one may expect of a publication with a claim to seriousness) could miss the fact - and the paper did not publish a paragraph distancing itself from the offensive opinion proffered. So it endorses it by default. With all best wishes, Antoine CAPET, FRHistS Professor emeritus of British Studies University of Rouen 76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan France antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr 'Britain since 1914' Section Editor Royal Historical Society Bibliography https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355 ========== From: Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions. From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! I note that the Washington Post, spiritual home of Trump Derangement Syndrome, continues its descent into the world of tabloid drivel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.4c8ea73c9a3a Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe
RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!
I can't tell whether or not this was intended in jest. In case it was not: No, it is not "fake news." It is an opinion with which you disagree wholeheartedly, as do I. "Fake news" is quite a specific thing. Somehow it seems to have morphed into something quite different. -Original Message- From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Linne, Walter P Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:21 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Fake news!? From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:05 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Sorry, but I cannot imagine even a "liberal" newspaper publishing "opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions". This Indian official's text is venomous - and the paper knew it and deliberately published it regardless. "They hate us", your President correctly said of other people in another context - this fully applies to this Indian official : "he hates Churchill" - full stop. No educated editor (as one may expect of a publication with a claim to seriousness) could miss the fact - and the paper did not publish a paragraph distancing itself from the offensive opinion proffered. So it endorses it by default. With all best wishes, Antoine CAPET, FRHistS Professor emeritus of British Studies University of Rouen 76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan France antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr 'Britain since 1914' Section Editor Royal Historical Society Bibliography https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355 == From: Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions. From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! I note that the Washington Post, spiritual home of Trump Derangement Syndrome, continues its descent into the world of tabloid drivel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.4c8ea73c9a3a Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!
Sorry, but I've subscribed to the Post for more than forty years, and I assure you that it routinely publishes op-eds that are diametrically opposed to the its own editorial position. George Will's column, for example, has been based at the Post since 1974 and is distributed to 450 other newspapers. Aside from baseball and a mutual distaste for the current President, it's hard to think of anything he and the Post agree on. Obviously, I disagree vehemently with this particular piece. But it was not written by the Post, nor does it accurately reflect the Post's editorial position--just as George Will's periodic columns about global warming are the polar opposite of the Post's position on that subject. -Original Message- From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:06 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Sorry, but I cannot imagine even a "liberal" newspaper publishing "opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions". This Indian official's text is venomous - and the paper knew it and deliberately published it regardless. "They hate us", your President correctly said of other people in another context - this fully applies to this Indian official : "he hates Churchill" - full stop. No educated editor (as one may expect of a publication with a claim to seriousness) could miss the fact - and the paper did not publish a paragraph distancing itself from the offensive opinion proffered. So it endorses it by default. With all best wishes, Antoine CAPET, FRHistS Professor emeritus of British Studies University of Rouen 76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan France antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr 'Britain since 1914' Section Editor Royal Historical Society Bibliography https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355 == From: Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions. From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! I note that the Washington Post, spiritual home of Trump Derangement Syndrome, continues its descent into the world of tabloid drivel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.4c8ea73c9a3a Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!
Fake news!? From: 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 4:05 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! Sorry, but I cannot imagine even a "liberal" newspaper publishing "opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions". This Indian official's text is venomous - and the paper knew it and deliberately published it regardless. "They hate us", your President correctly said of other people in another context - this fully applies to this Indian official : "he hates Churchill" - full stop. No educated editor (as one may expect of a publication with a claim to seriousness) could miss the fact - and the paper did not publish a paragraph distancing itself from the offensive opinion proffered. So it endorses it by default. With all best wishes, Antoine CAPET, FRHistS Professor emeritus of British Studies University of Rouen 76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan France antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr 'Britain since 1914' Section Editor Royal Historical Society Bibliography https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355 == From: Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions. From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! I note that the Washington Post, spiritual home of Trump Derangement Syndrome, continues its descent into the world of tabloid drivel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.4c8ea73c9a3a Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!
Sorry, but I cannot imagine even a "liberal" newspaper publishing "opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions". This Indian official's text is venomous - and the paper knew it and deliberately published it regardless. "They hate us", your President correctly said of other people in another context - this fully applies to this Indian official : "he hates Churchill" - full stop. No educated editor (as one may expect of a publication with a claim to seriousness) could miss the fact - and the paper did not publish a paragraph distancing itself from the offensive opinion proffered. So it endorses it by default. With all best wishes, Antoine CAPET, FRHistS Professor emeritus of British Studies University of Rouen 76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan France antoine.ca...@univ-rouen.fr 'Britain since 1914' Section Editor Royal Historical Society Bibliography https://www.lisez.com/livre-grand-format/churchill/9782262065355 == From: Chris Dunford Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 7:37 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions. From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! I note that the Washington Post, spiritual home of Trump Derangement Syndrome, continues its descent into the world of tabloid drivel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.4c8ea73c9a3a Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!!
That is not a Washington Post opinion. It is a guest op-ed. The Post routinely publishes opinion pieces that are not in accord with its own editorial positions. From: churchillchat@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Turrell Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2018 1:14 PM To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com Subject: [ChurchillChat] Hollywood Rewards Mass Murderer - Read All About It!!! I note that the Washington Post, spiritual home of Trump Derangement Syndrome, continues its descent into the world of tabloid drivel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/10/in-winston-churchill-hollywood-rewards-a-mass-murderer/?utm_term=.4c8ea73c9a3a Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to churchillchat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to churchillchat@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
