[CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Roland
Hi all, Hi Marquitux!! Nice to see you again. And happy to know you always use Cinelerra for your telenovela's editing needs. I like your question. Are you satisfied by the responses? I agree with you : Cinelerra-CV didn't already choose his own way to follow (as cehteh said in one of his previous

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
Kevin Brosius wrote: > On 2007-08-15 17:36, Christian Thaeter wrote: >> This my maybe arguable view how to hive Cinelerra CV out of its >> develoment stall: >> >> 1) Change the focus of CinelerraCV >> 2) Stop using SVN >> 3) Make releases >> 4) Make tracking HV less important > > I've been pretty

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
mark carter wrote: > On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 19:36 +0200, Christian Thaeter wrote: >> 2) Stop using SVN > > I just saw a YouTube vid by Linus who is talking about git: > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 > > >> Even if commit access is generously handled to people who ask, it's >> still a

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Kevin Brosius
On 2007-08-15 17:36, Christian Thaeter wrote: > This my maybe arguable view how to hive Cinelerra CV out of its > develoment stall: > > 1) Change the focus of CinelerraCV > 2) Stop using SVN > 3) Make releases > 4) Make tracking HV less important I've been pretty silent on these issues so far, no

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread mark carter
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 19:36 +0200, Christian Thaeter wrote: > 2) Stop using SVN I just saw a YouTube vid by Linus who is talking about git: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 > Even if commit access is generously handled to people who ask, it's > still a big blocker as I explained earlier

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread John Haiducek
On Aug 15, 2007, at 06:12, Mark Carter wrote: I think this is a good idea, and one that I intend to have a go on. No promises, of course. After playing for a little while, I realised that it was going to be trickier than I first thought. Looking at flip - the simplest plugin - one sees tha

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Fred Williams
On Wed, 2007-15-08 at 21:20 +0300, Mikko Huhtala wrote: > Christian Thaeter writes: > > This my maybe arguable view how to hive Cinelerra CV out of its > > develoment stall: > > > > 1) Change the focus of CinelerraCV > [ ... ] > > 2) Stop using SVN > [ ... ] > > 3) Make releases > [ ... ] >

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Mikko Huhtala
Christian Thaeter writes: > This my maybe arguable view how to hive Cinelerra CV out of its > develoment stall: > > 1) Change the focus of CinelerraCV [ ... ] > 2) Stop using SVN [ ... ] > 3) Make releases [ ... ] > 4) Make tracking HV less important Hear hear. I've been reading this threa

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? proposal for CinelerraCV 2 maintenace

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
This my maybe arguable view how to hive Cinelerra CV out of its develoment stall: 1) Change the focus of CinelerraCV Currently CVs goal is repackaging the HV version and fixing bugs. But a real community version should acknowledge progress and new features which are contributed by the community.

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
Mark Carter wrote: > From: Christian Thaeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> The SVN was declared to be following HV and staying mergeable, hence I >> started my 'ct' branch where developers can work without this brakeshoe. > > If I understand correctly: > * Cinelerra-CV is the

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Mark Carter
From: Christian Thaeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The SVN was declared to be following HV and staying mergeable, hence I > started my 'ct' branch where developers can work without this brakeshoe. If I understand correctly: * Cinelerra-CV is the ct branch, and the ct branch is considered "stable" * Ubu

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Christian Thaeter
Mark Carter wrote: > One of my fears about cinelerra is that there are a lot of git code > branches out there, each doing its own thang, and I wonder how much good > effort will ultimately be effectively wasted. Looking at > http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra/GitBranches > is enough to make m

Re: [CinCVS] Concatenate tracks

2007-08-15 Thread Martin Ellison
I suppose the idea must be to take all your clips and make them into one long movie in one click, presumably so you play through them and see what you have. Never tried it though. On 15/08/07, Raffaella Traniello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all! > > Due probably to a sunstroke in this Italia

[CinCVS] Concatenate tracks

2007-08-15 Thread Raffaella Traniello
Hi all! Due probably to a sunstroke in this Italian summer, I decided to try the 'Concatenate tracks' operation from the 'Tracks' menu. Since I was not familiar with it, I read the manual: "Concatenate tracks is more complicated. It takes every playable track and concatenates it to the end of the

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 10:32 +0200, Stefan de Konink wrote: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > > > First impressions *do* count. > > I am rather impressed by low-latency and real-sounding-effects than a GUI > that is pretty. So a program needs to have a demo 'what kan be made with >

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Mark Carter
I think this is a good idea, and one that I intend to have a go on. No promises, of course. After playing for a little while, I realised that it was going to be trickier than I first thought. Looking at flip - the simplest plugin - one sees that one has to worry about threads, and whether one is

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Joey Richards
Martin Ellison wrote: I should also add, in regard to the icon controversy: The user interface should be organized around the user's workflow (that is, the workflow of whoever is editing the video using Cinelerra) . The important thing is that they are able to manipulate the workspace (the me

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Raffaella Traniello
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 00:21 +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > So we will keep hearing complaints about the colours and the icons > until they become more in style with the flavour of the month. That's what themes are for. Icons should change with the themes. Ciao Raffaella

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Mark Carter
One of my fears about cinelerra is that there are a lot of git code branches out there, each doing its own thang, and I wonder how much good effort will ultimately be effectively wasted. Looking at http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra/GitBranches is enough to make most people's head swim at w

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Mark Carter
> i am a bit pissed about any system and written > http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/BuildingSoftware , Your comment made me think of Lisp, and how it already has a packaging system. I'm no Lisper, though. Whenever I've tried to use it, I generally think, "oh hell, why don't I just do it in Python

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > First impressions *do* count. I am rather impressed by low-latency and real-sounding-effects than a GUI that is pretty. So a program needs to have a demo 'what kan be made with it'. You might notice that all 'keyboards' or synthesizers have this 'de

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-15 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 00:21 +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:32:01 +0200, Edouard Chalaron > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Well I am sorry, but the way icons look is of the last relevance > > > > I don't work better because icons look better. They could look better > >