Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Hooper) wrote: Changing the mode will delete the vlan database off the switch. * I don't think I've met a network admin yet who is a fan of VTP :) Every network admin is until the first showdown of all their switches (happened to me around 2000, I'm cured). Elmar.

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Sascha E. Pollok
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 03:38:21PM +1100, Kurt Bales wrote: I am a big fan of VTP. This will change over time :) Yesterdaaay. VTP probs seemed so faaar awayy.. [..] I guess my question is, can I simply change every switch to transparent mode, and all will will operate happly, or will I

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Kurt Bales
* I am a big fan of VTP. Argh... It really isnt my day! That was meant to read NOT a big fan! K. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Maik Bachmann
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 04:39:52PM +0900, Daniel Hooper wrote: Changing the mode will delete the vlan database off the switch. not on all models - there are some you have to delete vlan.dat from the filesystem. Usually it's a good idea to set transparent mode on _all_ switches and to set the

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Dickinson
Changing the mode will NOT delete the vlan database on 2900XL (nor any other Cisco switches I've encountered). For paranoia, I also change the vtp domain and password to something unique on every switch to reduce the impact if it is ever enabled again. The one thing you will possibly want to do

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Dickinson
That matches my Solaris experience exactly. I can confirm RFC2348 support in 12.2SR and 12.4/12.4T (ie c3845) as well. Ian Clinton Work wrote: Solaris 8 doesn't support blksize / RFC 2348 and there aren't any plans for releasing a patch. Solaris 9/10 are fine and you can download the

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Raja Subramanian
On 11/6/07, Ian Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do agree though that VTP is horrible if you have more than a small office network with half a dozen vlans or so. I've made it my mission to eradicate it wherever I find it. I have a network with a few dozen Cisco switches and ~ 50 VLANs. I

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Stewart
I was kind of wondering the same thing... a couple hundred VLAN's spread across several 6500's and never had an issue in 7 years :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raja Subramanian Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:36 AM To:

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:06:28PM +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: This thread has got me thinking twice about my setup. What do you guys recommend as an alternate to VTP? no VTP - for a dozen switches, you should get by with manually configuring VLANs on those switches where you need

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:39:45AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: I was kind of wondering the same thing... a couple hundred VLAN's spread across several 6500's and never had an issue in 7 years :) If you want fun, try this: - connect another switch, have it learn the VTP database, make

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Stewart
We'd never do that scenario so that's possibly one reason we've never gotten bit. One master across our network is all we have and all we want ;) Everything else is a client Paul -Original Message- From: Gert Doering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:18

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7301, Radius and AV-Pairs

2007-11-06 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Mike, can you show your complete vtemplate config? What happens if you apply service-policy output policy-256 manually to the vtemplate interface, i.e. on the CLI? do you get any errors? Can you do a session without this attribute and do a show int virtual-access num conf to see what's applied on

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco's MVPN solution with or without MDT SAFI

2007-11-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi Rod, You should do it to fix CSCef97738 From CCO: Even though the benefits of MDT SAFI are for SSM tree building, MDT SAFI must also be configured when using MVPN with the default MDT group in PIM sparse-mode. From the multicast point of view, the new BGP AF does not need to be configured for

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Giles Coochey
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:39:45AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: I was kind of wondering the same thing... a couple hundred VLAN's spread across several 6500's and never had an issue in 7 years :) If you want fun, try this: - connect another switch, have it learn the VTP

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 07:20:50AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: We'd never do that scenario so that's possibly one reason we've never gotten bit. One master across our network is all we have and all we want ;) Everything else is a client Sure, VTP *is* quite useful, and most VTP horror

Re: [c-nsp] Recovering from disabled break squence

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:01:42PM +0500, Junaid wrote: i have messed up my router (3640) with a config-reg value of 0x3922 disabling the break sequence. Now, I am unable to get into ROMMON mode to change IOS. The current IOS does not detect my Ethernet module. Also, when I try to enter

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Malitsky
I have some customers connected to a 6500, and already run stormcontrol and portfast. I'll look into bpduguard as well, thanks. However, most of my customers are connected to router platforms (the one specifically affected is a 7200). As far as I know none of the actual L2 features apply there.

[c-nsp] BGP memory requirements

2007-11-06 Thread Jonathan Charles
I am building a router for a customer, a 3845, and the customer needs a full routing table, how much RAM do I need? They also have a remote location with a 2851 that they want to do the same thing, is the 2851 capable of handling a full BGP feed? Jonathan

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Phil Bedard
I saw a presentation on it some time ago and it looked very cool. Phil On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Tim Durack wrote: Documentation for the VS-S720-10G-3C is starting to show up on Cisco's site. They are referring to it as Virtual Switching System 1440 by virtue of it being a multi-chassis

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Aaron
I use tftpd32 for windows platforms and freebsd or sol9. Aaron On Nov 6, 2007 4:27 AM, Ian Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That matches my Solaris experience exactly. I can confirm RFC2348 support in 12.2SR and 12.4/12.4T (ie c3845) as well. Ian Clinton Work wrote: Solaris 8 doesn't

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Phil Mayers
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 10:33 -0500, Phil Bedard wrote: I saw a presentation on it some time ago and it looked very cool. As did I, but what wasn't made clear at the time was that all the linecards would need to be upgraded to DFC3C. In fact, I seem to recall being *explicitly* told that only the

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
The homepage is here: http://www.cisco.com/go/vss There is a very interesting white paper about how it works: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9336/products_white_paper0900aecd806ee2ed.shtml From the above URL: Additionally, note that no Cisco 7600 Series chassis will be supported after

Re: [c-nsp] out-of-band management - modems?

2007-11-06 Thread jp
We use the Livingston PM2. One could hook a modem to it for either incoming or outgoing, but we telnet to it and attach to the serial ports for various devices. For your couriers, make sure you use the autoanswer dip switch setting rather than solely the autoanswer init string. On Mon, Nov

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Jason Gurtz
I use tftpd32 for windows platforms and freebsd or sol9. I'll second that, lightweight, easy to use, and just works. We've had no problem working with a mélange of 87x, a 3640A, PIX 512e, and 3com 5500 series switches. ~JasonG -- ___ cisco-nsp

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2007-11-06 09:05 -0600), Michael Malitsky wrote: I have some customers connected to a 6500, and already run stormcontrol and portfast. I'll look into bpduguard as well, thanks. However, most of my customers are connected to router platforms (the one specifically affected is a 7200).

Re: [c-nsp] 6509-NEB-A lifecycle

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Stevenson
Yes, the V-E chassis is the E version of the 6509-NEB-A. It has front to back cooling but aside from that is essentially the same as the horizontal 9 slot E chassis. Tim At 09:35 AM 11/6/2007 -0500, Tim Durack observed: Some of the VSS1440 data sheets now refer to: WS-C6509-V-E E-Series 9-slot

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Sam Stickland
Saku Ytti wrote: In my opinion cisco is lacking some elementary L2 security features, like not being able to limit MAC addresses per port, without also having port-security on I think the following config should limit the MAC addresses for you: switchport port-security switchport

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Brandon Bennett
Documentation for the VS-S720-10G-3C is starting to show up on Cisco's site. They are referring to it as Virtual Switching System 1440 by virtue of it being a multi-chassis solution. The Supervisor itself looks to be a rev of the SUP720. Here is a little write up a friend of mine did on my

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Sam Stickland
Saku Ytti wrote: On (2007-11-06 16:56 +), Sam Stickland wrote: switchport port-security switchport port-security maximum x switchport port-security aging time 5 switchport port-security violation restrict Port security doesn't permamently learn MAC addresses unless switchport

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Justin Shore
Apparently I forgot to click the Send button last night. What process consumed the router's resources during the bcast storm? IP Input? What's the router? The type of device will dictate our suggestions. I'd take a number of steps to secure the interface and harden the router. Assuming

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2007-11-06 17:14 +), Sam Stickland wrote: I'm sorry. I don't see how the configuration above would be different from a configuration command that said limit the number of MAC addresses on this port to x. Can you explain? Consider topology: A --- Switch B In normal

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Church, Charles
Well, the good part is that the customers network being unusable took away any heat from your device being unusable. Unless of course you had multiple customers off that one router. You could front-end the router with a hardware L3 switch (3550 or so) that can police stuff at wire-rate. That

[c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Jonathan Charles
This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is being blocked on a network... I run into issues where customers have ACLs on their network (that they don't know about) and it is causing network failures...

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Masood Ahmad Shah
UNIX: http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ Windows: http://tracetcp.sourceforge.net/ Regards, Masood Ahmad Shah -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:03 AM To:

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Aaron Daubman
Jonathan, This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is being blocked on a network... Check out the man page for traceroute:

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Byron L. Hicks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Charles wrote: This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is being blocked on a network... TCPTraceroute:

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Daniel Dib
Hey Michael. Here is something you can try out. Instead of using CoPP to limit ARP use the hardwarebased ratelimiters. mls rate-limit unicast cef glean 2 60 - This limits the number of ARP-packets punted to the RP of the type glean. This will occur when traffic is sent to a connected host

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Jeremy Stretch
The Linux tracepath utility should do what you need; it's effectively a traceroute using UDP on an arbitrary port: http://linux.die.net/man/8/tracepath Stretch Jonathan Charles wrote: This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will let me tracroute on a specific port

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread schilling
http://traceproto.sourceforge.net/ Traceproto is a traceroute replacement written in c that allows the user to specify the protocol and port to trace to. It currently supports tcp, udp, and icmp traces with the possibility of others in the future. On 11/6/07, Peter Fiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread bill fumerola
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 02:30:10PM -0500, Aaron Daubman wrote: This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is being blocked on a network... Check out the man page for traceroute:

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread bill fumerola
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:02:52PM -0600, Jonathan Charles wrote: This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is being blocked on a network... http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ I run into

Re: [c-nsp] ASA5520 stable code?

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Malitsky
I am running the following with no problems: 5510s with 7.2(3) - static routing, NAT, stateful firewall, IPSEC 5505s with 8.0(2) - NAT, stateful firewall, IPSEC PIX525s with 7.2(2)23 - static routing, NAT, stateful firewall, some OSPF Hope this helps, Michael Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:01:19

Re: [c-nsp] Recovering from disabled break squence

2007-11-06 Thread Sascha E. Pollok
i have messed up my router (3640) with a config-reg value of 0x3922 disabling the break sequence. Now, I am unable to get into ROMMON mode to change IOS. The current IOS does not detect my Ethernet module. Also, when I try to enter config mode it says: Routerenable % No password set

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi, On Nov 6, 2007 9:52 AM, Clinton Work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to determine when blksize / rfc 2348 support was added to several Cisco IOS releases. It might have been added with defect CSCds46280, but the bug report doesn't provide any details. Support for tftp RFC2348 is

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with a solution...

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Malitsky
Cliff, Unless I am misunderstanding, this looks like a straightforward routed networks behind PIX scenario. Depending on complexity and scale, this could be as simple as a static route pointing back to the network(s) at center B and appropriate NAT/ACL statements on the PIX. Let me know if you

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2007-11-06 15:53 -0500), Fred Reimer wrote: If we can get a bunch of people to log the same issue then there's a very slim chance to actually get this implemented in some far-future version of code... Thanks Fred, I guess I'm not only one wanting this then (to me this really seems like