[c-nsp] 12410 or 7690-S for BGP transits

2008-01-31 Thread William Jackson
Hi all I am looking for a platform for the BGP peering edge of our network, this will have multiple full BGP tables and carry all our transit traffic. We expect to have between 5-10 gbps of initial traffic capacity and expect to grow over the net couple of years. We are all Ethernet based

Re: [c-nsp] OSPF router gets separated from a broadcast domain

2008-01-31 Thread Gabor Ivanszky
Hello, Ed Ravin wrote: d1 d2 d3 d4 d5 d6 \| /\| / \ | / \ | / switch-leased lineswitch | |

Re: [c-nsp] OSPF router gets separated from a broadcast domain

2008-01-31 Thread Christopher E. Brown
Gabor Ivanszky wrote: Hello, Ed Ravin wrote: d1 d2 d3 d4 d5 d6 \| /\| / \ | / \ | / switch-leased lineswitch |

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Sands
N7K-C7010 10 Slot Chassis, No Power Supplies, Fans Included$20,000 Operating System N7KS1K9-401A1.1 Nexus 7000 Software Release 4.0 $0 Layer 3 features N7K-LAN1K9 Nexus 7000 LAN Enterprise

Re: [c-nsp] ISDN backup for MPLS CE Router

2008-01-31 Thread Ali, Rijas: BB UAE (IT)
Friend, My CE has e-BGP with service provider PE. If the MPLS link is down or some routing issue with in MPLS cloud, my CE will dial in to my ISDN 3845 aggregator in my HO. If the link comes back / BGP is UP with PE , my CE should disconnect ISDN and work normally . I am not planning for

Re: [c-nsp] ISDN backup for MPLS CE Router

2008-01-31 Thread Masood Ahmad Shah
I believe that you side is CE --- PE. One thing is very important to know that you must reach your PE in appropriate manners while connecting using ISDN circuit.. If you want to use automatic failover and just can't run routing protocols..you can use IPSLA monitor If you can't use routing

Re: [c-nsp] 12410 or 7690-S for BGP transits

2008-01-31 Thread Phil Bedard
Generally for BGP peering you don't need all the fancy features that the SIP-600 gives you, it's complete overkill. You are better off just getting a 7600 with normal LAN linecards, otherwise your per-port cost is going to be enormous. Phil On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:00 AM, William Jackson

Re: [c-nsp] ISDN backup for MPLS CE Router

2008-01-31 Thread Masood Ahmad Shah
The question is, What your service provider suggest? Do they provide multiple eBGP sessions for CE, if yes they might want you to use it instead of static route and you might end with load balancing, route filtering so and soWell If you are going to use redundant eBGP you need to make it sure

Re: [c-nsp] 12410 or 7690-S for BGP transits

2008-01-31 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2008-01-31 09:54 -0500), Phil Bedard wrote: Generally for BGP peering you don't need all the fancy features that the SIP-600 gives you, it's complete overkill. You are better off just getting a 7600 with normal LAN linecards, otherwise your per-port cost is going to be enormous.

Re: [c-nsp] 12410 or 7690-S for BGP transits

2008-01-31 Thread William Jackson
Its more a case of IOS features and platform capabilities than port densities and costs, as both platforms can have high performance and port densities. Like I mentioned before, I would like the uptime to be as good as possible, with regards to software upgrades and self healing in event of bugs

Re: [c-nsp] 12410 or 7690-S for BGP transits

2008-01-31 Thread Phil Bedard
MAC accounting is nice but given the price difference, sampled (fudged) Netflow would have to suffice for me. If the router-type Ethernet ports were 2x as expensive, then there is a compelling argument, but when they are at least 10x the cost and you don't need the features, it's hard to

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Alex Howells
Tom Sands wrote: N7K-C7010 10 Slot Chassis, No Power Supplies, Fans Included $20,000 ... plus all the other bits you want [snipped] So basically a entry level one of these is around $200,000 then? Subtract a wedge if you only want a single supervisor, add on another chunk for extra line

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Tim Durack
I'm sure you could subtract 30-40% for the usual discount. Plus you may only need one chassis instead of the usual two 6500s for a redundant setup. That brings it back within reach perhaps. Tim: On Jan 31, 2008 11:45 AM, Alex Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Sands wrote: N7K-C7010 10

Re: [c-nsp] recommended Cisco router/firewall for 10 to 100Mbps, dual homed

2008-01-31 Thread Adrian Minta
Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: Hi Currently I am using an OpenBSD box which has given no problems, as a router/firewall for some colocated systems. However, I would like to take advantage of some of the Cisco features like NBAR, and the FTP proxy code (systems needing FTP with the OpenBSD

[c-nsp] %SYS-4-NV_BLOCK_INITFAIL

2008-01-31 Thread omar parihuana
Hi list, When I was installing a new router I had the follow error: Router# *Jan 31 16:27:46.067: NV: Invalid Pointer value(44AF40A0) in private configuration structure *Jan 31 16:27:46.107: NV: Invalid Pointer value(44AF40A0) in private configuration structure *Jan 31 16:27:46.107:

[c-nsp] Placement of SEP cards on VPN 3000

2008-01-31 Thread Raman Sud
I keep forgetting how SEP cards are placed in the VPN concentrator for redundancy mode and parallel processing mode Placement of SEP cards side by side = redundancy or parallel processing? Thanks Raman Sud ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] OAM pings on 3662 with NM-1A-T3 and a 7100 question

2008-01-31 Thread james edwards
On Jan 30, 2008 12:19 PM, Rick Kunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks, I can't seem to find the info I'm looking for online... Does anyone know if OAM pings are a supported comand in any IOS when using a 3662 and a NM-1A-T3? I'm running 12.3(22) now. Our 7200 supports it with a

[c-nsp] 'no redistribute static route-map'

2008-01-31 Thread Christian Bering
Hi guys, Is it expected behaviour that removing 'redistribute static route-map whatever' results in 'redistribute static' taking its place in the running config? BR1#show run | b 4 vrf Internet address-family ipv4 vrf Internet no synchronization redistribute static route-map

Re: [c-nsp] 'no redistribute static route-map'

2008-01-31 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Christian Bering wrote on Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:02 PM: Hi guys, Is it expected behaviour that removing 'redistribute static route-map whatever' results in 'redistribute static' taking its place in the running config? [...] I am surprised to see 'redistribute static' appear in

Re: [c-nsp] Router uptime, can you beat it?

2008-01-31 Thread Rick King
LNDEN01RGW01 uptime is 6 years, 25 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes System restarted by power-on at 11:20:39 EDT Mon Aug 6 2001 System image file is flash:c2500-i-l.120-14 cisco AS2509-RJ (68030) processor (revision K) with 6144K/2048K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 26229981, with hardware

Re: [c-nsp] PA-MC-T3 and capacity questions

2008-01-31 Thread Troy Beisigl
Hi Matt, Back in October you had recommended using the ONS system described below. I was wondering if you or anyone on this forum could look over the items below and see if anything is missing to complete this system? 2X 15454-TCC+ 1X 15454 NEBS3 Chassis 1X 15454-FTA 2X 15454-DS3XM-6 2X

Re: [c-nsp] 'no redistribute static route-map'

2008-01-31 Thread Christian Bering
Hi Oli, I am surprised to see 'redistribute static' appear in the config. yes, this is expected, it's been like this for as long as I recall Alrighty. Thanks for clarifying. Christian ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

[c-nsp] RES: Router uptime, can you beat it?

2008-01-31 Thread Leonardo Gama Souza
Ok...I have one IGS running smoothly for 16 years: IGS-BX Software, Version 8.3(0.15), ROUTER SOFTWARE Copyright (c) 1986-1991 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 14-Aug-91 15:25 by mlb System Bootstrap, Version 4.3(0.6), ROUTER SOFTWARE igs uptime is 16 years, 8 weeks, 5 days, 10 hours, 28

Re: [c-nsp] RES: Router uptime, can you beat it?

2008-01-31 Thread ed
You win. -Original Message- From: Leonardo Gama Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:52:45 To:Howard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED], cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] RES: Router uptime, can you beat it? Ok...I have one IGS running smoothly for 16 years: IGS-BX

Re: [c-nsp] RES: Router uptime, can you beat it?

2008-01-31 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On 1/31/08, Church, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense, but can we kill this thread? Yeah, besides half of the people here think that at lot of these uptimes are faked and the other half are searching their bugtraq archives for exploits to break into your network. Jeff

Re: [c-nsp] RES: Router uptime, can you beat it?

2008-01-31 Thread Church, Charles
No offense, but can we kill this thread? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:03 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] RES: Router uptime, can you beat it? You win.

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Sands
Would you really trust dual sups in the Nexus any more than you can trust dual sups in a 6500? You're not required to buy 2 chassis with the 6500, that would be a personal or design choice. -- Tom Sands

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Gristina
Yes, if it is based on the MDS. On Jan 31, 2008 12:08 PM, Tom Sands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you really trust dual sups in the Nexus any more than you can trust dual sups in a 6500? You're not required to buy 2 chassis with the 6500, that would be a personal or design choice.

[c-nsp] Cisco latency issues? high loss to 64.233.167.99

2008-01-31 Thread Dean Perrine
Anyone else seeing issues to google - 64.233.167.99? Trying to hit this google site and getting 50% loss, random drop offs.. Anyone know of something? = Dean Perrine ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

[c-nsp] CORRECTION - Google latency, not Cisco latency (Cisco latency issues? high loss to 64.233.167.99)

2008-01-31 Thread Dean Perrine
On Jan 31, 2008 1:44 PM, Dean Perrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else seeing issues to google - 64.233.167.99? Trying to hit this google site and getting 50% loss, random drop offs.. Anyone know of something? = Dean Perrine ___

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco latency issues? high loss to 64.233.167.99

2008-01-31 Thread Troy Beisigl
I know that we are seeing 30% - 50% packet loss to that IP but the other 2 in DNS are fine. Troy Beisigl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Perrine Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:44 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject:

Re: [c-nsp] CORRECTION - Google latency, not Cisco latency (Cisco latency issues? high loss to 64.233.167.99)

2008-01-31 Thread Alex Balashov
It is my consistent impression that this is the result of Google rate-limiting ICMP traffic + lots of people pinging them due to their canonical ubiquity (in fact, the latter is likely a cause of the former), and isn't an accurate reflection of actual packet loss / throughput, etc. Both ping

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Tim Durack
I'll wait and see (we already placed our order for 6509s and VS-S720s.) Interesting to see Cisco going back to separate fabrics and dual supervisors with ISSU. No mention of VSS after they've been talking it up recently. Nice if they can make it all work reliably. Tim: On Jan 31, 2008 3:08 PM,

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco latency issues? high loss to 64.233.167.99

2008-01-31 Thread Paul Stewart
No latency here but we're peered: 3 core1-rtr-mb-ge4-0.nexicom.net (216.168.98.150) 0.153 ms 0.153 ms 0.144 ms 4 gw-google.torontointernetxchange.net (198.32.245.6) 1.901 ms 1.897 ms 1.942 ms 5 66.249.94.79 (66.249.94.79) 2.285 ms 2.278 ms 66.249.94.75 (66.249.94.75) 2.198 ms 6

[c-nsp] RSP720-3CXL-10GE shipping yet?

2008-01-31 Thread Justin Shore
Does anyone know if the RSP720-3CXL-10GE is shipping yet? If not is there an ETA? Thanks Justin ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] 12410 or 7690-S for BGP transits

2008-01-31 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 03:04:58PM -0500, Deepak Jain wrote: Whether its for IXP use, or whatever... a 6500 or 7600 do really well with lots of and lots, and lots, and lots of low latency ethernet devices connected to them and 10Gb/s of thruput is nothing. If you plan to run your links

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Sands
Point was that the 6500 supports dual sups, probably just as reliably, so there isn't an added cost of needing 2 6500 chassis. -- Tom Sands Chief Network Engineer

[c-nsp] internal enterprise MPLS/VRF recommendations

2008-01-31 Thread Higham, Josh
I have a couple of internal groups that need some level of private connectivity within our network, and I'm looking at some high level input about the various options. We currently have an MPLS network between most sites, with IPSEC connectivity for a few minor sites as well as backup for all

Re: [c-nsp] CORRECTION - Google latency, not Cisco latency (Cisco latency issues? high loss to 64.233.167.99)

2008-01-31 Thread Christian Koch
everything fine for me from direct peering and through comcastlevel3 On Jan 31, 2008 5:01 PM, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is my consistent impression that this is the result of Google rate-limiting ICMP traffic + lots of people pinging them due to their canonical ubiquity (in

Re: [c-nsp] internal enterprise MPLS/VRF recommendations

2008-01-31 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi Josh, On 2/1/08, Higham, Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a couple of internal groups that need some level of private connectivity within our network, and I'm looking at some high level input about the various options. [...] I don't know how much heart surgery you'd need to perform on

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Colin McNamara
Yes, you have extreme reliability that is comes from San-os, but even with the MDS you always go with an A and B fabric. This chassis is basically a core replacement, and an answer to the 10Gig aggregation problems that are starting to pop up with blade centers and high end vmware installations.

[c-nsp] IPv6 on C3550, finally? (12.2(44)SE)

2008-01-31 Thread Simon Lockhart
Noticed that 12.2(44)SE was recently released for the Cat3550 switch, and feature navigator lists a whole load of IPv6 support. Yay! However, it doesn't seem to work very well... interface Loopback0 no ip address ipv6 address 2001:4B10::100/128 ipv6 enable end lab-sw.rbsov#ping

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Sands
Being developed from SAN-OS or an MDS still doesn't make it either. Similar reliability might be there, but I wouldn't be convinced until there is some proof it provides a that level of stability and ability. With a 4:1 over subscription on the card I saw, I don't know that it would be my

Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 on C3550, finally? (12.2(44)SE)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Storey
Noticed that 12.2(44)SE was recently released for the Cat3550 switch, and feature navigator lists a whole load of IPv6 support. Yay! However, it doesn't seem to work very well... interface Loopback0 no ip address ipv6 address 2001:4B10::100/128 ipv6 enable end lab-sw.rbsov#ping

Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7000

2008-01-31 Thread Colin McNamara
well, if you can get to your edge routers, then you can get really far ;) IP man, its the wave of the future -- Colin McNamara (858)208-8105 CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just

Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 on C3550, finally? (12.2(44)SE)

2008-01-31 Thread a. rahman isnaini r.sutan
Check ipv6 unicast-routing on global config a. rahman isnaini r.sutan Simon Lockhart wrote: Noticed that 12.2(44)SE was recently released for the Cat3550 switch, and feature navigator lists a whole load of IPv6 support. Yay! However, it doesn't seem to work very well... interface

[c-nsp] Spanning-Tree question

2008-01-31 Thread Aaron R
Hi Guys, Ive got a problem that I am hoping someone can have a look at. I currently have four 3750's. Two belonging to one business unit and two belonging to another. Each group of switches is running a separate VTP domain / VLAN database. I am running PVST however when I connect the final

Re: [c-nsp] Spanning-Tree question

2008-01-31 Thread Aaron R
Yes I probably disconnected it before this as the cpu went crazy @ like 90%. Thanks for your suggestions. Cheers, Aaron. -Original Message- From: Ben Steele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:31 PM To: Aaron R Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re:

Re: [c-nsp] Spanning-Tree question

2008-01-31 Thread Ben Steele
No worries, also you can disregard my suggestion about load balancing your 2 vlans, as I just realised after I sent it we are only talking about a single VLAN here, note to self to stop multitasking! :) Ben On 01/02/2008, at 4:08 PM, Aaron R wrote: Yes I probably disconnected it before

Re: [c-nsp] IPv6 on C3550, finally? (12.2(44)SE)

2008-01-31 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2008-02-01 00:54 +), Simon Lockhart wrote: Noticed that 12.2(44)SE was recently released for the Cat3550 switch, and feature navigator lists a whole load of IPv6 support. Yay! It works unidirectionally, it can send IPv6 packets, but it can't receive them. I have no clue if the hardware