[c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Joe Maimon
What exactly does Support mean? I just cannot believe the following fits the definition. Hello Joe, My name is J*** C and I’m the manager of the Routing Protocols team within Cisco TAC. I’m contacting you on behalf of J*** M* who is the owner of this SR. After reviewing the case

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Joe Maimon wrote: What exactly does Support mean? I just cannot believe the following fits the definition. Hello Joe, My name is J*** C and Im the manager of the Routing Protocols team within Cisco TAC. Im contacting you on behalf of J*** M* who is the owner

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Jared Mauch
There's only one type of bug that they don't disclose to customers, and that is if the notes have $$PSIRT in there marking it as a security related defect. All other defects encountered by a customer should get a RNE (release note) and be set to be visible on CCO. It is not the job of the

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Jon Lewis wrote: I'd say it sounds like you've run into a known bug serious enough that TAC's been told not to say anything about it other than known bug, nothing to see here until cisco gets around to doing an official security advisory and has gotten the fix out to

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Phil Mayers
On 19/12/12 17:07, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2012, Jon Lewis wrote: I'd say it sounds like you've run into a known bug serious enough that TAC's been told not to say anything about it other than known bug, nothing to see here until cisco gets around to doing an official

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jared Mauch wrote: There's only one type of bug that they don't disclose to customers, and that is if the notes have $$PSIRT in there marking it as a security related defect. All other defects encountered by a customer should get a RNE (release

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
We also get a lot of similar answers from cisco tac and my understanding is that these bugs include info that if it becomes public available it will cause unjustified worries to many other customers. We also have met bugs where the release notes aren't useful at all, so these fall under the

[c-nsp] me3600x - g0/25 ?!

2012-12-19 Thread Aaron
Any idea why I see an interface g0/25 on my me3600x? this may be following the ios upgrade to 15.3(1)S There are only 24 physical sfp interfaces on this box Aaron ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] me3600x - g0/25 ?!

2012-12-19 Thread Andrew K.
I am able to confirm I see the same thing on my ME3600x running the same code 15.3(1)S. On 12/19/2012 3:29 PM, Aaron wrote: Any idea why I see an interface g0/25 on my me3600x? this may be following the ios upgrade to 15.3(1)S There are only 24 physical sfp interfaces on this box

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Matthias Müller
Hi, i can understand your frustration because it fits in my/our experience with TAC even if sometimes there's really an internal security bug that will be addressed in an security advisory. But my personal experience with TAC and Cisco in the last 3 years is like this, if we open a TAC case

Re: [c-nsp] me3600x - g0/25 ?!

2012-12-19 Thread Steve Dodd
Did the management port get renumbered? -Steve -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Andrew K. Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 1:36 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] me3600x - g0/25 ?! I

Re: [c-nsp] me3600x - g0/25 ?!

2012-12-19 Thread Aaron
If it did, then there is a strange/orphaned gig0 still showing And Andrew K says he still knows about g0 so I'm assuming he's using it... Aaron -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Steve Dodd Sent:

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Joe Maimon
Jared, All, Yes a security bug might warrant such a response. However, its quite hard to see how this particular issue is one, and they arent saying. Joe Jared Mauch wrote: There's only one type of bug that they don't disclose to customers, and that is if the notes have $$PSIRT in there

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco TAC successfully disappoints again

2012-12-19 Thread Joe Maimon
Bruce, Jared, The case has been taken up and I have received a detailed and lengthy response later this afternoon, which I am still chewing on for further response. To all who expressed interest, effort and assistance, Thank you. CSCsq55105 624127187 Best, Joe Bruce Pinsky wrote:

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 admin shuts a new vlan if it has the same IP as a down vlan.

2012-12-19 Thread Drew Weaver
Sorry for the late response, You cannot un-shut the new VLAN until you remove the downed VLAN completely. When we create the new VLAN we do 'no shut' and it gives an error about an overlap. I'm doing all of this via scripts; so if the IP I am assigning isn't in the routing table and it isn't

Re: [c-nsp] me3600x - g0/25 ?!

2012-12-19 Thread Christian Meutes
Happens when you insert SFPs in the SFP+ interfaces. Only way to get rid of them is a reboot. -- Christian On 20.12.2012, at 03:29, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote: Any idea why I see an interface g0/25 on my me3600x? this may be following the ios upgrade to 15.3(1)S There are only 24

[c-nsp] recommendation for upgrade-paths pls

2012-12-19 Thread Harald Kapper
Hi, we're currently on 7206VXR with NPE-G2 and NPE-G1 on our network. We need the following main features: IPv6+v4 dual-stack, Gigabit and multi-Gigabit speeds for our upstreams, full BGP-tables, broadband-aggregation (currently built on lots of C2851 and could be kept there for the time being)

Re: [c-nsp] recommendation for upgrade-paths pls

2012-12-19 Thread Mick O'Rourke
What are you Cisco SP account team suggesting? I can't speak on the C2851 replacement side of things or the 760x, but I can offer something small on 1k's as border\transit routers. Price doesn't seem to be hugely different between the ESPs 10/20/40. If your looking at multi-gig - at assume