Re: [c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-10-23 22:06 -0500), Tony Varriale wrote: None of GBIC will do half duplex IIRC. And, they won't do subrate. The negotiate is there to appease the other end if it tries. This is painfully common misconception. So some, even serious SPs tend to have standard of disabling autonego and

Re: [c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-24 Thread Phil Mayers
On 10/24/2012 07:23 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2012-10-23 22:06 -0500), Tony Varriale wrote: None of GBIC will do half duplex IIRC. And, they won't do subrate. The negotiate is there to appease the other end if it tries. This is painfully common misconception. So some, even serious SPs tend

Re: [c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-10-24 09:44 +0100), Phil Mayers wrote: On the plus side, autoneg is mandatory in later versions of the specs (1000Tx, 10g) IIRC, so maybe this nonsense will finally die? If I understand 802.3 correctly, you must implement it, but you don't have to use it, but I might not understand

Re: [c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-24 Thread Reuben Farrelly
On 24/10/2012 7:44 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: The only places we disable autoneg in our network are to connect to same $FORMER_GOVT_TELCO, which makes me sad :o( A bit OT, but a similar $FORMER_GOVT_TELCO here in Australia does the same thing on their business grade ethernet products. They

Re: [c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-24 Thread Tony Varriale
On 10/24/2012 1:23 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2012-10-23 22:06 -0500), Tony Varriale wrote: None of GBIC will do half duplex IIRC. And, they won't do subrate. The negotiate is there to appease the other end if it tries. This is painfully common misconception. So some, even serious SPs tend to

[c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-23 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Hi all, Running up against an odd issue where we have a 3550 with an LX GBIC trying to talk to a copper port on an ME3600 with a media converter in the middle. The ME3600 side always shows as up; we disabled fault passthrough on the MC. The LX GBIC on the 3550 side shows down/down with

Re: [c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-23 Thread Rich Davies
If you have an fiber coupler (SC) you can loop TX to RX and verify that link comes up on the 3550 side on your section of fiber. Also if media converter has ability to do any internal loop tests (in either direction) that would be good too.You may be able to plug an ethernet RJ45 loopback

Re: [c-nsp] LX GBIC at half duplex?

2012-10-23 Thread Tony Varriale
On 10/23/2012 1:40 PM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Hi all, Running up against an odd issue where we have a 3550 with an LX GBIC trying to talk to a copper port on an ME3600 with a media converter in the middle. The ME3600 side always shows as up; we disabled fault passthrough on the MC. The LX