On Monday, January 09, 2012 02:12:42 AM Eugeniu Patrascu
wrote:
if you want something else than cisco, you may want to
take a look at brocade cer2000 routers/switches.
1U, has support for 10GE interfaces.
list price for a 24 port GE model starts at around
$12-14k and it's very cheap
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:43, Mark Tinka mti...@globaltransit.net wrote:
On Monday, January 09, 2012 02:12:42 AM Eugeniu Patrascu
wrote:
if you want something else than cisco, you may want to
take a look at brocade cer2000 routers/switches.
1U, has support for 10GE interfaces.
list price
On Tuesday, January 10, 2012 08:59:43 PM Eugeniu Patrascu
wrote:
they advertise it as 512k ipv6 and 1.5mil ipv4 iirc.
That's interesting - I pulled down the data sheets for the
CER2000, and it does say 1,500,000 for v4 in FIB + 256,000
for v6 in FIB.
This is weird, because I know v4 was
On Jan 10, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
On Tuesday, January 10, 2012 08:59:43 PM Eugeniu Patrascu
wrote:
they advertise it as 512k ipv6 and 1.5mil ipv4 iirc.
That's interesting - I pulled down the data sheets for the
CER2000, and it does say 1,500,000 for v4 in FIB + 256,000
On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 04:28:55 AM Andrew Hoyos
wrote:
IIRC, there is two different versions of the CER, the
CER and CER-RT, the latter having 1.5mil v4 FIB.
That, then, could be it.
When we were looking at Brocade back in 2009, there was only
the CER2000 and the CES2000.
The
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 01:25, Rolf Hanßen n...@rhanssen.de wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a stable, reliable router / Layer3 switch that can do the
following:
-forward at least 1GBit / 1Mpps
-full support of IPv6
-provide NetFlow data or similar for several hundred connected hosts in a
On Monday, December 19, 2011 11:43:29 AM Frank Bulk wrote:
It's too bad that they don't have a release that supports
both IPv6 PBR and DHCPv6-PD with static route insertion.
From my quick search on FN, both those features seem to be
available in:
- SRD2a
- SRC3
- SRC2
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:
What throughput can bigger/newer plattform like Sup32/ASR provide with
netflow ?
Sup32 is PFC3B so same as Sup720/PFC3B. PFC3B supports 128K NetFlow
entries. For us it was OK for ~2Gbps traffic with smalls customers
The NSE-* have hardware forwarding that never really worked, so the
whole product line was abandoned. Short summary. Don't Go There.
Not really. It's true for 7200 and NSE-1. But not true for 7304 and
NSE-100 and NSE-150. We're still using around 7 of 7304/NSE-100 and
NSE-150 based as
7300 series will also never have 4 byte ASN support ?
Last I heard, admittedly over a year ago, but likely a side issue to the
topic.
On 18 December 2011 11:45, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
The NSE-* have hardware forwarding that never really worked, so the
whole product line was abandoned.
On Sunday, December 18, 2011 03:06:18 AM Andrew Miehs wrote:
Apart from running something like running lots of E1s,
x21 interfaces I would no longer purchase a new 7200. As
for second hand boxes - if you can get a service
contract for them, ok.
Same.
If we're buying for small-to-medium
On 18/12/2011, at 2:28 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
I still remember a friend of mine buying 4x 7500s filled
with VIPs and ?Supervisors?… Every card, and even the
chassis all had problems! But it was not that the cards
didn't work - they booted, came on line, and then
crashed after 2 days, etc. He
On Monday, December 19, 2011 04:26:37 AM Andrew Miehs wrote:
Hi Mark,
this wasn't meant a s speed comparison, but rather what
can go wrong if you buy second hand without service.
Agree.
We've had 7200's fail on us, both new and refurbished.
Either way, getting a yearly renewable support
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Recommendation for small GBit router
On Sunday, December 18, 2011 03:06:18 AM Andrew Miehs wrote:
Apart from running something like running lots of E1s,
x21 interfaces I would no longer purchase a new 7200. As
for second hand boxes - if you
On Friday, December 16, 2011 11:14:07 PM Jared Mauch wrote:
Wish Cisco would actually save these parts of the config
but having a recoverable device isn't a priority
apparently.
Well, the same goes for SSH keys and SNMPv3 activations.
These are the 2 bits I've found are easy to forget when
On Friday, December 16, 2011 09:21:02 AM Andrew Miehs wrote:
I wouldn't buy a new 7200 nowerdays - they are not that
much cheaper than the ASR1001s (if at all).
Unless you're buying them on the used market.
The 7200's are still useful if you require port density,
especially for non-Ethernet
Hi,
ok, nevertheless, what can I expect from these 4 processors / plattforms ?
As far as I found NPE-G1 / NPE-G2 will have SW updates till 2013/2015.
What throughput can bigger/newer plattform like Sup32/ASR provide with
netflow ?
kind regards
Rolf
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 03:37:59PM
On Dec 17, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
Hi,
ok, nevertheless, what can I expect from these 4 processors / plattforms ?
As far as I found NPE-G1 / NPE-G2 will have SW updates till 2013/2015.
What throughput can bigger/newer plattform like Sup32/ASR provide with
netflow ?
the
Hi,
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 03:08:15PM +0100, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
ok, nevertheless, what can I expect from these 4 processors / plattforms ?
As far as I found NPE-G1 / NPE-G2 will have SW updates till 2013/2015.
What throughput can bigger/newer plattform like Sup32/ASR provide with
netflow ?
On Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:53:42 PM Gert Doering
wrote:
To complement what Jared said: The NPE-G1/G2 are
software forwarding platforms, so you get the maximum in
flexibility, but the G1 will NOT give you 1gbit/s of
forwarding performance. The G2 is supposed to (but I've
not
This provides a type of overview
http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf
although your milage will change based on which software features you enable.
On 17/12/2011, at 6:34 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
As I've mentioned before a couple of times on
n...@rhanssen.de (Rolf Hanßen) wrote:
Hi Andrew,
just pure forwarding of a few public networks towards each other and
internet with default route.
No tunnels, no NAT, no DHCP, no VPN or something similar.
Concerning relatively cheap: Im searching for below 3000 Euro
absolutely. ;)
I'd say if he really want to go cheap, IP base probably do fine, only
difference is no BGP in it. Adv.IP services license cost half of
hardware while ipbase few hundered $.
On 16/12/11 12:27, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
The cheapest
option you have would probably be a WS-3560, but you'll need an
Cisco-wise you'll find nothing that can push bandwidth. The cheapest
option you have would probably be a WS-3560, but you'll need an
advanced ip services image which does not come for free.
But 3560 doesn't provide netflow at all (even sampled). And no SVI statistics.
So it's out of
On 12/16/2011 01:09 AM, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
Hi Andrew,
just pure forwarding of a few public networks towards each other and
internet with default route.
No tunnels, no NAT, no DHCP, no VPN or something similar.
Concerning relatively cheap: Im searching for below 3000 Euro
absolutely. ;)
You'll
On 16 December 2011 10:53, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
On 12/16/2011 01:09 AM, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
Hi Andrew,
just pure forwarding of a few public networks towards each other and
internet with default route.
No tunnels, no NAT, no DHCP, no VPN or something similar.
HI Aled,
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Aled Morris al...@qix.co.uk wrote:
ASR1001 MSRP $17k + $5k for IP BASE licence
I think the IP BASE license is included with the ASR1001 for US$17K list.
Street price should be about EUR10K . (OP seems to be in euro zone).
He will however require a
On 16.12.2011 00:25, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for a stable, reliable router / Layer3 switch that can do the
following:
-forward at least 1GBit / 1Mpps
[..]
Rolf, sorry to say, but for the price range of 3000€ you'll have a hard
time finding anything, even used, that has both the
There are 'other' vendors out there besides Cisco who's switches provide
SFlow which will give you information you're looking for as compared to
netflow, assuming your collector supports it. These same vendor/switches
also can do the routing as you're asking about for the low cost you're
looking
On 16 December 2011 11:58, Andrew Miehs and...@2sheds.de wrote:
HI Aled,
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Aled Morris al...@qix.co.uk wrote:
ASR1001 MSRP $17k + $5k for IP BASE licence
I think the IP BASE license is included with the ASR1001 for US$17K list.
Sadly not, you have to pay.
Hello,
2nd hand is no problem, I did not think about new stuff at all.
What about a NSE-100 ? Looks cheap on Ebay.
Docs say 3.5 Mpps (PXF); 450 kpps (RP). Is IPv6 forwarded in hardware or
via RP on NSE ?
Concerning Netflow on NSE-100/NSE-150/NPE-G1/NPE-G2 cards:
What traffic amount is realistic
On Dec 16, 2011, at 5:33 AM, Robert Hass wrote:
Cisco-wise you'll find nothing that can push bandwidth. The cheapest
option you have would probably be a WS-3560, but you'll need an
advanced ip services image which does not come for free.
But 3560 doesn't provide netflow at all (even
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 03:37:59PM +0100, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
What about a NSE-100 ? Looks cheap on Ebay.
There's a reason for that. End-of-life, and abandoned architecture (PXF).
gert
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Hi,
Il 16/12/2011 0.25, Rolf Hanßen ha scritto:
At the moment there is a GSR 12008 used for it but it has no IPv6 support
(apart from senseless size and power wasting).
I am a little curious about what IPv6 support/feature is missing on your
GSR 12008...
Thanks
--
BR
Tiziano
On 16/12/2011 16:00, Gert Doering wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 03:37:59PM +0100, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
What about a NSE-100 ? Looks cheap on Ebay.
There's a reason for that. End-of-life, and abandoned architecture (PXF).
and hasn't been able to handle a full DFZ since 2007 or so.
Nick
At the moment there is a GSR 12008 used for it but it has no IPv6 support
(apart from senseless size and power wasting).
I am a little curious about what IPv6 support/feature is missing on your
GSR 12008...
For instance 6VPE, in IOS. Yes, this is supported in IOS XR for the
GSR, but that
Hello,
I am looking for a stable, reliable router / Layer3 switch that can do the
following:
-forward at least 1GBit / 1Mpps
-full support of IPv6
-provide NetFlow data or similar for several hundred connected hosts in a
way that can be used for IP-based accounting (including IPv6 and not
Rolf,
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Rolf Hanßen n...@rhanssen.de wrote:
I am looking for a stable, reliable router / Layer3 switch that can do the
following:
-forward at least 1GBit / 1Mpps
-full support of IPv6
-provide NetFlow data or similar for several hundred connected hosts in a
Hi Rolf,
On 16/12/2011, at 12:25 AM, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
I am looking for a stable, reliable router / Layer3 switch that can do the
following:
-forward at least 1GBit / 1Mpps
-full support of IPv6
-provide NetFlow data or similar for several hundred connected hosts in a
way that can be used
Hi Andrew,
just pure forwarding of a few public networks towards each other and
internet with default route.
No tunnels, no NAT, no DHCP, no VPN or something similar.
Concerning relatively cheap: Im searching for below 3000 Euro
absolutely. ;)
regards
Rolf
Hi Rolf,
On 16/12/2011, at 12:25
Hi Rolf,
On 16/12/2011, at 2:09 AM, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
Hi Andrew,
just pure forwarding of a few public networks towards each other and
internet with default route.
No tunnels, no NAT, no DHCP, no VPN or something similar.
Concerning relatively cheap: Im searching for below 3000 Euro
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Rolf Hanßen n...@rhanssen.de wrote:
I am looking for a stable, reliable router / Layer3 switch that can do the
following:
-forward at least 1GBit / 1Mpps
-full support of IPv6
-provide NetFlow data or similar for several hundred connected hosts in a
way that
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