[c-nsp] 3750-X VRF CEF Issue

2013-10-11 Thread Jan Gregor
Hi all,

there is something funky going on a stack of 3750Xs that we have
VRF-Lite enabled on:
SW11(config)#ip vrf TEST
SW11(config-vrf)#rd 65000:13
SW11(config-vrf)#int vl161
SW11(config-if)#do sh run int vl161
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 129 bytes
!
interface Vlan161
 description TEST
 no ip address
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 arp timeout 300
end
SW11(config-if)#ip vrf forwarding TEST
% CEF table 0x11 does not exist (Vlan161).
SW11(config-if)#

System image file is flash:/c3750e-universalk9-mz.150-2.SE2.bin

There are 12 VRFs already defined in the switch and they are working
without any trouble. Anyone seen something like this before?

Best regards,

Jan



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[c-nsp] Differences between Supervisor Engine 6L-E and 6-E

2013-10-11 Thread Alex D.

Hi guys,
can anyone give me an indication of the exact differences between 
Supervisor Engine 6L-E and Supervisor Engine 6-E for Cat 4506-E

Thanks in advance...
Regards,
Alex
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[c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow Hardware assisted NAT not supported on 65xx on the same interface even with Sup2T

2013-10-11 Thread oldnick

Hi all,

I leave it here JFTR, to prevent someone else to make the same error as I did with NAT, Netflow and 
Sup2T (just as Matthew Huff did before me with Sup720).


According to Cisco because of CSCud36118, enabling NAT (ip nat outside) and Flexible NetFlow (ip 
flow monitor MonitorFlow input) on the same interface force NAT traffic to be software switched even 
with Sup2T.


Although TAC states that this is software limitation, I've been told that there it no plan to 
support this feature combination in hardware.


HTH

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf 
Of Matthew Huff

Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 10:26 AM
To: 'cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net'
Subject: [c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow Data Export  Hardware assisted NAT not supported on 76xx/65xx on 
the same interface


Last winter we purchased a pair of 7606 routers to use out at the NYSE colo facility. We connect via 
a 1gb fiber to the SFTI LCN for market data and FIX traffic. We fully expected to be able to use 
hardware assisted NAT and NDE to monitor the traffic. The netflow output we get is random, sporadic 
and very incomplete. After dealing with our Sales team and TAC, we have finally got them to admit 
that it doesn't work when NAT and NDE are configured on the same interface.


Nowhere in the Cisco marketing literature, Cisco Documentation, or even Cisco bug lists does it 
mention this. There are some caveats listed regarding NDE and NAT (flow mask conflicts, and 
fragments), but even given that, the caveats imply that it will work if the caveats don't apply or 
the flowmask conflicts are resolved. Also, there are no warnings when configuring it. The feature 
manager shows no errors or conflicts, etc...


At every step, in my opinion, cisco has been reluctant to admit that it doesn't work. Only when 
confronted with the evidence, they did finally admit it. Had we known of this limitation, we would 
have purchased different hardware including possibly another vendor's solution.


I'm looking at using SPAN to replicate the data and send it to a linux box to then create netflow 
data exports, however, given the nature of the data (high bandwidth and microburst), I'm not sure 
that the Linux box will work accurately. I assumed the PFC would be doing the exports in hardware 
giving us the most accurate realtime look at the market data. Evidently I was wrong.


I'm sending this so that no one else will make the same mistake we did as well as being in the nsp 
archives.



Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
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Re: [c-nsp] Differences between Supervisor Engine 6L-E and 6-E

2013-10-11 Thread Joshua Morgan
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps4324/prod_models_comparison.html

On Friday, October 11, 2013, Alex D. wrote:

 Hi guys,
 can anyone give me an indication of the exact differences between
 Supervisor Engine 6L-E and Supervisor Engine 6-E for Cat 4506-E
 Thanks in advance...
 Regards,
 Alex
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Re: [c-nsp] Differences between Supervisor Engine 6L-E and 6-E

2013-10-11 Thread Alex D.

Many thanks for the quick reply. This answers all my open questions...
Regards,
Alex

Am 11.10.2013 12:58, schrieb Joshua Morgan:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps4324/prod_models_comparison.html

On Friday, October 11, 2013, Alex D. wrote:

Hi guys,
can anyone give me an indication of the exact differences between
Supervisor Engine 6L-E and Supervisor Engine 6-E for Cat 4506-E
Thanks in advance...
Regards,
Alex
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[c-nsp] asr9k (xr 4.1.2) null 0 traffic not showing packets in packets out

2013-10-11 Thread Aaron
I have a static route pointing to null 0. I know I have traffic flowing
towards null 0, but sh int null 0 shows no packets out.  Why not ?

 

I have 7609's that I point static routes to at null 0 and I see packets out,
and I get to mrtg traffic graph that blackholed traffic.  But I don't seem
to see the same thing in asr9k.  is there a way to see that traffic that is
going out null 0 on my asr9k ? 

 

Aaron

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[c-nsp] ASR1001 QoS on port-channel sub-interfaces

2013-10-11 Thread Chris Gibbs
Hi all,

We have recently purchased an ASR1001 and seem to be hitting some limitations 
regarding QOS on sub-interfaces on port channels.

I can police on per-subscriber basis fine, handing down the policies from our 
radius server. I would also like to police the aggregate on the sub-interface 
that happens to be on a port-channel. When attempting to apply the 
service-policy to the sub-interface, it seems to apply fine; however when 
verifying the policy-map on the interface, I can see that it is in suspended 
mode and not applying.

When I attempt the suggested work-around of lacp fast-switchover with lacp 
max-bundle 1 on the port-channel, the sub-interface policy is able to 
successfully apply. However, we straight away lose a half our performance for 
standby.

In order to attempt to resolve, I have upgraded to version 
asr1001-universalk9.03.10.00a.S.153-3.S0a-ext.bin. This did not resolve.

This blog post by another network engineer sums up the issue perfectly, it was 
an over a year ago, so hoping the issue got some traction in Cisco.

http://thenetworksbroken.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/cisco-asr-1001-queuing-on-pppoe.html

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards,


[cid:(null)]http://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/

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Gosford City Council
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Re: [c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow Hardware assisted NAT not supported on 65xx on the same interface even with Sup2T

2013-10-11 Thread Matthew Huff
FYI,

At least cisco went back end and added caveats to the documentation about this 
limitation. Since I had combed through all the documentation beforehand, had 
the caveat been there, it would have been likely we would have purchased a 
different set of hardware. 


Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
 oldnick
 Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:46 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow  Hardware assisted NAT not supported on 
 65xx on the
 same interface even with Sup2T
 
 Hi all,
 
 I leave it here JFTR, to prevent someone else to make the same error as I did 
 with NAT,
 Netflow and
 Sup2T (just as Matthew Huff did before me with Sup720).
 
 According to Cisco because of CSCud36118, enabling NAT (ip nat outside) and 
 Flexible
 NetFlow (ip
 flow monitor MonitorFlow input) on the same interface force NAT traffic to be 
 software
 switched even
 with Sup2T.
 
 Although TAC states that this is software limitation, I've been told that 
 there it no plan
 to
 support this feature combination in hardware.
 
 HTH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at 
 puck.nether.net]
 On Behalf
 Of Matthew Huff
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 10:26 AM
 To: 'cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net'
 Subject: [c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow Data Export  Hardware assisted NAT not 
 supported on
 76xx/65xx on
 the same interface
 
 Last winter we purchased a pair of 7606 routers to use out at the NYSE colo 
 facility. We
 connect via
 a 1gb fiber to the SFTI LCN for market data and FIX traffic. We fully 
 expected to be able
 to use
 hardware assisted NAT and NDE to monitor the traffic. The netflow output we 
 get is random,
 sporadic
 and very incomplete. After dealing with our Sales team and TAC, we have 
 finally got them
 to admit
 that it doesn't work when NAT and NDE are configured on the same interface.
 
 Nowhere in the Cisco marketing literature, Cisco Documentation, or even Cisco 
 bug lists
 does it
 mention this. There are some caveats listed regarding NDE and NAT (flow mask 
 conflicts,
 and
 fragments), but even given that, the caveats imply that it will work if the 
 caveats don't
 apply or
 the flowmask conflicts are resolved. Also, there are no warnings when 
 configuring it. The
 feature
 manager shows no errors or conflicts, etc...
 
 At every step, in my opinion, cisco has been reluctant to admit that it 
 doesn't work. Only
 when
 confronted with the evidence, they did finally admit it. Had we known of this 
 limitation,
 we would
 have purchased different hardware including possibly another vendor's 
 solution.
 
 I'm looking at using SPAN to replicate the data and send it to a linux box to 
 then create
 netflow
 data exports, however, given the nature of the data (high bandwidth and 
 microburst), I'm
 not sure
 that the Linux box will work accurately. I assumed the PFC would be doing the 
 exports in
 hardware
 giving us the most accurate realtime look at the market data. Evidently I was 
 wrong.
 
 I'm sending this so that no one else will make the same mistake we did as 
 well as being in
 the nsp
 archives.
 
 
 Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
 Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
 OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
 aim: matthewbhuff| Fax:   914-460-4139
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Re: [c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow Hardware assisted NAT not supported on 65xx on the same interface even with Sup2T

2013-10-11 Thread Phil Mayers

On 11/10/13 14:11, Matthew Huff wrote:

FYI,

At least cisco went back end and added caveats to the documentation
about this limitation. Since I had combed through all the
documentation beforehand, had the caveat been there, it would have
been likely we would have purchased a different set of hardware.


Have they pulled that great Cisco trick of updating the docs but not 
updating the last edited timestamp, fooling you into thinking it's 
always been there?

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Re: [c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow Hardware assisted NAT not supported on 65xx on the same interface even with Sup2T

2013-10-11 Thread Matthew Huff
No idea. I didn't check at the time. Since the document is updated regularly, I 
doubt they needed any subterfuge. The last modified date is now July 30th, 
2013. It's in Configuring NetFlow and NDE in the Cisco 7600 Series Router 
Software Configuration Guide Cisco IOS Release 15S documentation.

This is what was added:



Note NDE and NAT configuration on the same interface is not supported. NDE 
requires flows to age out periodicaly for it to export its statistics. NAT 
installs hardware shortcuts that do not age. Hence, NDE for NAT'd flows does 
not work correctly.
 





Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039

 -Original Message-
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 Mayers
 Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:24 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] WARNING: Netflow  Hardware assisted NAT not supported 
 on 65xx on the
 same interface even with Sup2T
 
 On 11/10/13 14:11, Matthew Huff wrote:
  FYI,
 
  At least cisco went back end and added caveats to the documentation
  about this limitation. Since I had combed through all the
  documentation beforehand, had the caveat been there, it would have
  been likely we would have purchased a different set of hardware.
 
 Have they pulled that great Cisco trick of updating the docs but not
 updating the last edited timestamp, fooling you into thinking it's
 always been there?
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR1001 QoS on port-channel sub-interfaces

2013-10-11 Thread CiscoNSP List

FYI - I have had two TAC cases open on this issue Jan this year and July 2012 
- The latest from TAC is:

Currently, our engineering is working on aggregate port-channel QoS.
We don’t have an exact release at this time, but we can say that support will 
be no sooner than XE3.11,  and may be later.



 From: chris.gi...@gosford.nsw.gov.au
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:46:05 +
 Subject: [c-nsp] ASR1001 QoS on port-channel sub-interfaces
 
 Hi all,
 
 We have recently purchased an ASR1001 and seem to be hitting some limitations 
 regarding QOS on sub-interfaces on port channels.
 
 I can police on per-subscriber basis fine, handing down the policies from our 
 radius server. I would also like to police the aggregate on the sub-interface 
 that happens to be on a port-channel. When attempting to apply the 
 service-policy to the sub-interface, it seems to apply fine; however when 
 verifying the policy-map on the interface, I can see that it is in suspended 
 mode and not applying.
 
 When I attempt the suggested work-around of lacp fast-switchover with lacp 
 max-bundle 1 on the port-channel, the sub-interface policy is able to 
 successfully apply. However, we straight away lose a half our performance for 
 standby.
 
 In order to attempt to resolve, I have upgraded to version 
 asr1001-universalk9.03.10.00a.S.153-3.S0a-ext.bin. This did not resolve.
 
 This blog post by another network engineer sums up the issue perfectly, it 
 was an over a year ago, so hoping the issue got some traction in Cisco.
 
 http://thenetworksbroken.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/cisco-asr-1001-queuing-on-pppoe.html
 
 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 
 [cid:(null)]http://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/
 
 Chris Gibbs
 Network and Security Engineer | Information Management  Technology
 Gosford City Council
 www.gosford.nsw.gov.auhttp://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/
 
 PO Box 21 Gosford NSW 2250
 Phone: (02) 4325 
 Mobile: 0408 222 496
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[c-nsp] Fwd: RTP permission and related attacks/threats

2013-10-11 Thread Ahmed -Y
HI Guys,



I have to permit RTP traffic from internal network to other organizations
(under different management) on gateway devices (routers, switches). I am
curious to know if there are known attacks/threats when upd range
16384-32767 is permited. RTP source/destination can be desk phone or PC
with softphone. If yes then can we configure gateway routers/switches to
protect from these attacks.



We have cisco 7200, 6500, 3550, 3560, 3750 switches as gateway devices.



One more quick question are there only two ways (NBAR and ACL with udp
range) on routers/switches to identify/match RTP traffic? I know Firewalls
provide feature like inspect, AGL etc to dynamically identify RTP ports by
inspecting control traffic.



Your input will be highly appreciated



Regards
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