Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-29 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

Good to know!

We usually snapshot the directories and copy them somewhere else and then start 
new with each upgrade.

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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:42 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Keep in mind an upgrade can throw off the purges.  I've seen on CUCM after an 
upgrade, the older backups from the previous version would not be purged on the 
SFTP server.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Gotcha - but only until the max number of files is reached. If I set something 
to 12 (for monthly backups) and I just started, I won't really know.

It's not a big deal for now. It's just a shame that they don't show the 
information that is obviously in the database.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354<tel:519-824-4120%20Ext%2056354>
le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com<mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:52 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

There should be a unique XML file for each backup set (collection of .tar 
files). The number of XML files present in and of itself, should represent the 
number of backup sets within the backup destination folder.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
> <le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Ryan! Pointing me to the XML is good enough for now. I wish it had the 
> total number of backups stored, but that's ok.
>
> I like the idea of your script copying files to off-site as well.
>
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications
> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354<tel:519-824-4120%20Ext%2056354>
> le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G
> 2W1
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com<mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:28 AM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
>
> I have a little CLI and GUI based script that fires via CRON on the SFTP 
> archive (it's a Linux box). It parses the XMLs and extrapolates ctime/mtime 
> from the file attributes. It isn't a "pretty" report by any means but maybe 
> gets close to what you want (number of backups and create/mod times). Also 
> has a little feature to copy every 3rd backup set to a NFS (via Samba) 
> destination as an "offsite" backup. Probably could add SMS/Spark 
> notifications through Tropo/Spark without too much fuss.
>
> Its PHP now, but I can refactor into Python, Pearl or Ruby (could probably do 
> it in Bash too) if needed. Just let me know.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
>> <le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just to follow up on this...
>>
>> The CLI commands allow you to set all the requirements of backup devices and 
>> scheduled backups, but the "show" feature is lacking. The listing of backup 
>> devices don't show the number of backups kept and the listing of the 
>> schedules don't show the actual time the backups take place.
>>
>> I guess it is what it is.
>>
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications
>> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
>>
>> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354<tel:519-824-4120%20Ext%2056354>
>> le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>
>> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G
>> 2W1
>>
>> -Original M

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-29 Thread Charles Goldsmith 
Keep in mind an upgrade can throw off the purges.  I've seen on CUCM after
an upgrade, the older backups from the previous version would not be purged
on the SFTP server.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

>
> Gotcha - but only until the max number of files is reached. If I set
> something to 12 (for monthly backups) and I just started, I won't really
> know.
>
> It's not a big deal for now. It's just a shame that they don't show the
> information that is obviously in the database.
>
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
> University of Guelph
>
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
> Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:52 AM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
>
> There should be a unique XML file for each backup set (collection of .tar
> files). The number of XML files present in and of itself, should represent
> the number of backup sets within the backup destination folder.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ryan! Pointing me to the XML is good enough for now. I wish it
> had the total number of backups stored, but that's ok.
> >
> > I like the idea of your script copying files to off-site as well.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> > Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications
> > Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> >
> > 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> > le...@uoguelph.ca
> > www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> > Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G
> > 2W1
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:28 AM
> > To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> > Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> >
> > I have a little CLI and GUI based script that fires via CRON on the SFTP
> archive (it's a Linux box). It parses the XMLs and extrapolates ctime/mtime
> from the file attributes. It isn't a "pretty" report by any means but maybe
> gets close to what you want (number of backups and create/mod times). Also
> has a little feature to copy every 3rd backup set to a NFS (via Samba)
> destination as an "offsite" backup. Probably could add SMS/Spark
> notifications through Tropo/Spark without too much fuss.
> >
> > Its PHP now, but I can refactor into Python, Pearl or Ruby (could
> probably do it in Bash too) if needed. Just let me know.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Just to follow up on this...
> >>
> >> The CLI commands allow you to set all the requirements of backup
> devices and scheduled backups, but the "show" feature is lacking. The
> listing of backup devices don't show the number of backups kept and the
> listing of the schedules don't show the actual time the backups take place.
> >>
> >> I guess it is what it is.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> >> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications
> >> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> >>
> >> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> >> le...@uoguelph.ca
> >> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> >> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G
> >> 2W1
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On
> >> Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:28 PM
> >> To: Matthew Loraditch; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam';
> >> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> >> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> >>
> >>
> >> True enough. I guess what I was trying to say was, by having a
> standalone xLM server, it's not dependent on the co-res server staying up.
> And because version compatibility was not straightforward when we installed
> things, a standalone server allowed us to service licenses until no longer
> compatible, then just spin up a new server and migrat

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-29 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

Gotcha - but only until the max number of files is reached. If I set something 
to 12 (for monthly backups) and I just started, I won't really know.

It's not a big deal for now. It's just a shame that they don't show the 
information that is obviously in the database.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:52 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

There should be a unique XML file for each backup set (collection of .tar 
files). The number of XML files present in and of itself, should represent the 
number of backup sets within the backup destination folder.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Ryan! Pointing me to the XML is good enough for now. I wish it had the 
> total number of backups stored, but that's ok. 
> 
> I like the idea of your script copying files to off-site as well. 
> 
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications 
> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> 
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 
> 2W1
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:28 AM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> I have a little CLI and GUI based script that fires via CRON on the SFTP 
> archive (it's a Linux box). It parses the XMLs and extrapolates ctime/mtime 
> from the file attributes. It isn't a "pretty" report by any means but maybe 
> gets close to what you want (number of backups and create/mod times). Also 
> has a little feature to copy every 3rd backup set to a NFS (via Samba) 
> destination as an "offsite" backup. Probably could add SMS/Spark 
> notifications through Tropo/Spark without too much fuss.
> 
> Its PHP now, but I can refactor into Python, Pearl or Ruby (could probably do 
> it in Bash too) if needed. Just let me know.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just to follow up on this...
>> 
>> The CLI commands allow you to set all the requirements of backup devices and 
>> scheduled backups, but the "show" feature is lacking. The listing of backup 
>> devices don't show the number of backups kept and the listing of the 
>> schedules don't show the actual time the backups take place. 
>> 
>> I guess it is what it is. 
>> 
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications 
>> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
>> 
>> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
>> le...@uoguelph.ca
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
>> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G
>> 2W1
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On 
>> Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:28 PM
>> To: Matthew Loraditch; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; 
>> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
>> 
>> 
>> True enough. I guess what I was trying to say was, by having a standalone 
>> xLM server, it's not dependent on the co-res server staying up. And because 
>> version compatibility was not straightforward when we installed things, a 
>> standalone server allowed us to service licenses until no longer compatible, 
>> then just spin up a new server and migrate/request new licenses.
>> 
>> I guess it's all what you're comfortable with, either way would work.
>> 
>> ---
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications 
>> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
>> 
>> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
>> le...@uoguelph.ca
>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
>> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G
>> 2W1
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-29 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

Thanks Ryan! Pointing me to the XML is good enough for now. I wish it had the 
total number of backups stored, but that's ok. 

I like the idea of your script copying files to off-site as well. 


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:28 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

I have a little CLI and GUI based script that fires via CRON on the SFTP 
archive (it's a Linux box). It parses the XMLs and extrapolates ctime/mtime 
from the file attributes. It isn't a "pretty" report by any means but maybe 
gets close to what you want (number of backups and create/mod times). Also has 
a little feature to copy every 3rd backup set to a NFS (via Samba) destination 
as an "offsite" backup. Probably could add SMS/Spark notifications through 
Tropo/Spark without too much fuss.

Its PHP now, but I can refactor into Python, Pearl or Ruby (could probably do 
it in Bash too) if needed. Just let me know.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to follow up on this...
> 
> The CLI commands allow you to set all the requirements of backup devices and 
> scheduled backups, but the "show" feature is lacking. The listing of backup 
> devices don't show the number of backups kept and the listing of the 
> schedules don't show the actual time the backups take place. 
> 
> I guess it is what it is. 
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications 
> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> 
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 
> 2W1
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf 
> Of Lelio Fulgenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:28 PM
> To: Matthew Loraditch; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; 
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> 
> True enough. I guess what I was trying to say was, by having a standalone xLM 
> server, it's not dependent on the co-res server staying up. And because 
> version compatibility was not straightforward when we installed things, a 
> standalone server allowed us to service licenses until no longer compatible, 
> then just spin up a new server and migrate/request new licenses.
> 
> I guess it's all what you're comfortable with, either way would work.
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications 
> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> 
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 
> 2W1
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:01 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; 
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> You can still pool even if it's not standalone
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf 
> Of Lelio Fulgenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:51 AM
> To: NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com>; 'Pawlowski, Adam' 
> <aj...@buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> 
> For us, it's the license pooling that is of benefit. Spare licenses can be 
> used to quickly spin up a lab cluster for testing, etc. 
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure Computing and Communications 
> Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> 
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 
> 2W1
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just 
> didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I nev

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-29 Thread Ryan Huff 
I have a little CLI and GUI based script that fires via CRON on the SFTP 
archive (it's a Linux box). It parses the XMLs and extrapolates ctime/mtime 
from the file attributes. It isn't a "pretty" report by any means but maybe 
gets close to what you want (number of backups and create/mod times). Also has 
a little feature to copy every 3rd backup set to a NFS (via Samba) destination 
as an "offsite" backup. Probably could add SMS/Spark notifications through 
Tropo/Spark without too much fuss.

Its PHP now, but I can refactor into Python, Pearl or Ruby (could probably do 
it in Bash too) if needed. Just let me know.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to follow up on this...
> 
> The CLI commands allow you to set all the requirements of backup devices and 
> scheduled backups, but the "show" feature is lacking. The listing of backup 
> devices don't show the number of backups kept and the listing of the 
> schedules don't show the actual time the backups take place. 
> 
> I guess it is what it is. 
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
> University of Guelph
> 
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
> Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Lelio Fulgenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:28 PM
> To: Matthew Loraditch; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> 
> True enough. I guess what I was trying to say was, by having a standalone xLM 
> server, it's not dependent on the co-res server staying up. And because 
> version compatibility was not straightforward when we installed things, a 
> standalone server allowed us to service licenses until no longer compatible, 
> then just spin up a new server and migrate/request new licenses.
> 
> I guess it's all what you're comfortable with, either way would work.
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> 
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:01 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> You can still pool even if it's not standalone
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Lelio Fulgenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:51 AM
> To: NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com>; 'Pawlowski, Adam' <aj...@buffalo.edu>; 
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> 
> For us, it's the license pooling that is of benefit. Spare licenses can be 
> used to quickly spin up a lab cluster for testing, etc. 
> 
> ---
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
> Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph
> 
> 519-824-4120 Ext 56354
> le...@uoguelph.ca
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
> Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just 
> didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I never found a use 
> case that having a separate box actually made a difference.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Lelio Fulgenzi
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:41 AM
> To: Pawlowski, Adam <aj...@buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 
> 
> I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the 
> next couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have to 
> watch out for server restarts. I have a

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-29 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

Just to follow up on this...

The CLI commands allow you to set all the requirements of backup devices and 
scheduled backups, but the "show" feature is lacking. The listing of backup 
devices don't show the number of backups kept and the listing of the schedules 
don't show the actual time the backups take place. 

I guess it is what it is. 

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:28 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM


True enough. I guess what I was trying to say was, by having a standalone xLM 
server, it's not dependent on the co-res server staying up. And because version 
compatibility was not straightforward when we installed things, a standalone 
server allowed us to service licenses until no longer compatible, then just 
spin up a new server and migrate/request new licenses.

I guess it's all what you're comfortable with, either way would work.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:01 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can still pool even if it's not standalone

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:51 AM
To: NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com>; 'Pawlowski, Adam' <aj...@buffalo.edu>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM


For us, it's the license pooling that is of benefit. Spare licenses can be used 
to quickly spin up a lab cluster for testing, etc. 

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:48 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just 
didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I never found a use case 
that having a separate box actually made a difference.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:41 AM
To: Pawlowski, Adam <aj...@buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 

I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the next 
couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have to watch 
out for server restarts. I have a script that checks for daily backups so that 
would theoretically catch it.


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Pawlowski, Adam
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:33 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in the 
past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it and turn 
it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than if 
it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses out 
into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but would 
be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine.
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it.
I don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just t

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

True enough. I guess what I was trying to say was, by having a standalone xLM 
server, it's not dependent on the co-res server staying up. And because version 
compatibility was not straightforward when we installed things, a standalone 
server allowed us to service licenses until no longer compatible, then just 
spin up a new server and migrate/request new licenses.

I guess it's all what you're comfortable with, either way would work.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Loraditch [mailto:mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 2:01 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; NateCCIE; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can still pool even if it's not standalone

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:51 AM
To: NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com>; 'Pawlowski, Adam' <aj...@buffalo.edu>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM


For us, it's the license pooling that is of benefit. Spare licenses can be used 
to quickly spin up a lab cluster for testing, etc. 

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:48 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just 
didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I never found a use case 
that having a separate box actually made a difference.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:41 AM
To: Pawlowski, Adam <aj...@buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 

I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the next 
couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have to watch 
out for server restarts. I have a script that checks for daily backups so that 
would theoretically catch it.


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Pawlowski, Adam
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:33 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in the 
past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it and turn 
it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than if 
it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses out 
into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but would 
be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine.
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it.
I don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just the 
same thing as PLM again or not.

Best,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS




--


Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:31:22 +
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
Cc: "voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)"
        <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
Message-ID:

<ytxpr01mb0640409342ba98ea4aad5441ac...@ytxpr01mb0640.canprd01.prod.OUTLOOK.
COM>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


Yes ? we?re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and cucm 
clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That?s it. No devices, no schedules, 
nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that?s limited to 2.



---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Matthew Loraditch 
You can still pool even if it's not standalone

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:51 AM
To: NateCCIE <natec...@gmail.com>; 'Pawlowski, Adam' <aj...@buffalo.edu>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM


For us, it's the license pooling that is of benefit. Spare licenses can be used 
to quickly spin up a lab cluster for testing, etc. 

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:48 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just 
didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I never found a use case 
that having a separate box actually made a difference.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:41 AM
To: Pawlowski, Adam <aj...@buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 

I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the next 
couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have to watch 
out for server restarts. I have a script that checks for daily backups so that 
would theoretically catch it.


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Pawlowski, Adam
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:33 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in the 
past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it and turn 
it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than if 
it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses out 
into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but would 
be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine.
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it.
I don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just the 
same thing as PLM again or not.

Best,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS




--


Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:31:22 +
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
Cc: "voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)"
        <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
Message-ID:

<ytxpr01mb0640409342ba98ea4aad5441ac...@ytxpr01mb0640.canprd01.prod.OUTLOOK.
COM>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


Yes ? we?re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and cucm 
clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That?s it. No devices, no schedules, 
nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that?s limited to 2.



---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the 
PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities (or 
activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the 
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

For us, it's the license pooling that is of benefit. Spare licenses can be used 
to quickly spin up a lab cluster for testing, etc. 

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: NateCCIE [mailto:natec...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:48 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi; 'Pawlowski, Adam'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just 
didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I never found a use case 
that having a separate box actually made a difference.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:41 AM
To: Pawlowski, Adam <aj...@buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 

I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the next 
couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have to watch 
out for server restarts. I have a script that checks for daily backups so that 
would theoretically catch it.


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Pawlowski, Adam
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:33 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in the 
past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it and turn 
it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than if 
it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses out 
into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but would 
be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine.
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it.
I don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just the 
same thing as PLM again or not.

Best,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS




--


Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:31:22 +
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
Cc: "voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)"
    <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
Message-ID:

<ytxpr01mb0640409342ba98ea4aad5441ac...@ytxpr01mb0640.canprd01.prod.OUTLOOK.
COM>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


Yes ? we?re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and cucm 
clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That?s it. No devices, no schedules, 
nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that?s limited to 2.



---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the 
PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities (or 
activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the 
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it?s still a 
drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery strategies based on 
this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) Unive

Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread NateCCIE 
I have removed all of the standalone PLM/ELMs from my customers.  It just
didn't make sense to have to worry about another box.  I never found a use
case that having a separate box actually made a difference.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:41 AM
To: Pawlowski, Adam <aj...@buffalo.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 

I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the
next couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have
to watch out for server restarts. I have a script that checks for daily
backups so that would theoretically catch it.


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
Pawlowski, Adam
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:33 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in
the past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it
and turn it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than
if it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses
out into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but
would be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine.
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it.
I don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just
the same thing as PLM again or not.

Best,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS




--


Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:31:22 +
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
Cc: "voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)"
    <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
Message-ID:

<ytxpr01mb0640409342ba98ea4aad5441ac...@ytxpr01mb0640.canprd01.prod.OUTLOOK.
COM>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


Yes ? we?re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and
cucm clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That?s it. No devices, no schedules,
nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that?s limited to 2.



---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the
PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities
(or activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it?s
still a drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery
strategies based on this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?


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Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 
Thanks for the feedback. I'll have to look at the CLI scheduling options. 

I see that it's going away in v12 (smart only) but we'll be on v11 for the next 
couple of years at least. So I'd like to see this working. We'll have to watch 
out for server restarts. I have a script that checks for daily backups so that 
would theoretically catch it.


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From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Pawlowski, Adam
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:33 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in the 
past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it and turn 
it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than if 
it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses out 
into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but would 
be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine. 
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it. I 
don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just the 
same thing as PLM again or not.

Best,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS




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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:31:22 +
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
Cc: "voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)"
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
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Yes ? we?re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and cucm 
clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That?s it. No devices, no schedules, 
nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that?s limited to 2.



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Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the 
PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities (or 
activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the 
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it?s still a 
drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery strategies based on 
this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?


---
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Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>
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Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Pawlowski, Adam 
You can schedule it from the CLI but I find that restarting this machine in the 
past has turned this backup off, and I would have to go reschedule it and turn 
it on.

If you're using it for usage reporting this is probably more concerning than if 
it is just providing licensing. Since we don't often issue new licenses out 
into our system the "restore" would just be missing that usage data but would 
be fine to restore licensing should we have to rebuild this machine. 
(Standalone PLM).

Supposedly it is gone after 11.5 anyways so I am not too concerned about it. I 
don't know how the "satellite" works at this point to tell if it is just the 
same thing as PLM again or not.

Best,

Adam Pawlowski
SUNYAB NCS




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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:31:22 +
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <le...@uoguelph.ca>
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com>
Cc: "voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)"
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM
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Yes ? we?re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and cucm 
clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That?s it. No devices, no schedules, 
nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that?s limited to 2.



---
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Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the 
PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities (or 
activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the 
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it?s still a 
drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery strategies based on 
this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?


---
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Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS) University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>
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Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

Yes – we’re looking at a stand alone PLM. We have multiple voicemail and cucm 
clusters and liked the idea of separate xLMs.

In the GUI, I just have backup/restore. That’s it. No devices, no schedules, 
nothing. Not even # of copies to keep. Docs say that’s limited to 2.



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Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
Room 037, Animal Science and Nutrition Building
Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

From: Ryan Huff [mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the 
PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities (or 
activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the 
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it’s still a 
drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery strategies based on 
this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?


---
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Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs<http://www.uoguelph.ca/ccs>
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Re: [cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Ryan Huff 
Are you dealing with a standalone PLM? If it's co-res, you'd just backup the 
PLM feature in the normal CUCM DRS.

For standalone, you should be able to use all the normal CLI DRS utilities (or 
activate the CUCM application for the purpose of accessing DRS).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
> wrote:


So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the 
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it’s still a 
drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery strategies based on 
this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?


---
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Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
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[cisco-voip] um, where'd the scheduled backups go in PLM

2017-06-27 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi 

So, just setting up PLM, and I noticed, surprisingly enough, that the 
backup/restore menu is a simplified menu of what ELM had.

Basically, just backup/restore.

No scheduled backups, no different backup device configurations.

While I can appreciate not much changing in the licensing manager, it's still a 
drag to see this gone. We built some workflow and recovery strategies based on 
this.

Any ideas as to why this happened?


---
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Senior Analyst, Network Infrastructure
Computing and Communications Services (CCS)
University of Guelph

519-824-4120 Ext 56354
le...@uoguelph.ca
www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
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Guelph, Ontario, N1G 2W1

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