RE: R: Re: Norwegian sister (was: Jakob Lindberg and the cister)
Are the chords always on adjacent strings (bow - probably lyra-viol), or separated (plucked)? Rob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: R: Re: Norwegian sister (was: Jakob Lindberg and the cister)
Hei! On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Frank Nordberg wrote: > Hi all, > > sorry I'm late replying. Been out playing gigs this weekend. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I think I've finally got it to work - except in Netscape. But it works in > > Opera, Avant and IE. Pages 1-3 is the section on the sister. The next two > > pages are an inventory of sistere in Norway. The last page is from the > > section on the lutter. The painting on this page depicts an instrument that > > is a bit like one that Bellman is seen playing (in a picture sent to me by > > FRank Nordberg). > > I got it to work just fine in Netscape and I'll translate the rest of > the pages too - unless Are wants to have a go at it. I got it to work last night, and I can have go at it. But right now I'am off for holiday, so it will have to wait until the weekend. > Right now I got side-tracked into something even more interesting though. > So, can anybody think of an instrument that'll fit this description: > + Six courses > + Played with a plectrum or possibly a bow > + Music notated in French tablature > + Regularly tuned in a major chord (GCGCEG if we assume C major >tuning, but that's just a wild guess) but the lower courses tuned >down a note or two quite often > > A six course bell cittern like the one Bellman had should fit the > description perfectly, but there a catch: this manuscript I've got here > (well, photocopies of it at least) is *supposed* to date back to 1679! > Does anybody have an idea what kind of instrument this could be? I guess you are talking about the Peder Bang manuscript. That is supposed to be written for a lyra viol. > Frank Nordberg > http://www.musicaviva.com mvh Are Vidar Hansen To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: R: Re: Norwegian sister (was: Jakob Lindberg and the cister)
Hi all, sorry I'm late replying. Been out playing gigs this weekend. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I think I've finally got it to work - except in Netscape. But it works in > Opera, Avant and IE. Pages 1-3 is the section on the sister. The next two > pages are an inventory of sistere in Norway. The last page is from the > section on the lutter. The painting on this page depicts an instrument that > is a bit like one that Bellman is seen playing (in a picture sent to me by > FRank Nordberg). I got it to work just fine in Netscape and I'll translate the rest of the pages too - unless Are wants to have a go at it. Right now I got side-tracked into something even more interesting though. So, can anybody think of an instrument that'll fit this description: + Six courses + Played with a plectrum or possibly a bow + Music notated in French tablature + Regularly tuned in a major chord (GCGCEG if we assume C major tuning, but that's just a wild guess) but the lower courses tuned down a note or two quite often A six course bell cittern like the one Bellman had should fit the description perfectly, but there a catch: this manuscript I've got here (well, photocopies of it at least) is *supposed* to date back to 1679! Does anybody have an idea what kind of instrument this could be? Frank Nordberg http://www.musicaviva.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: R: Re: Norwegian sister (was: Jakob Lindberg and the cister)
i got all six pages to work in safari. thanks, stuart! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
R: Re: Norwegian sister (was: Jakob Lindberg and the cister)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/s.walsh > Last night I was able to read all the pages on the sister from Aksdal's > book but today it doesn't work... I think I've finally got it to work - except in Netscape. But it works in Opera, Avant and IE. Pages 1-3 is the section on the sister. The next two pages are an inventory of sistere in Norway. The last page is from the section on the lutter. The painting on this page depicts an instrument that is a bit like one that Bellman is seen playing (in a picture sent to me by FRank Nordberg). Anyway, it said that the earliest > instruments by Amund Hansen resembled the cithrinchen, but that he later > developed a pearshaped variant which he called "sitrenke". This instrument > was copied by other norwegian intrument makers, so there was clearly a > distinct norwegian cittern tradition around 1800! > > > Aksdal also mentions a manuscript with instructions and pieces in french > tabulature, so there is more to explore! > That's really surprising. The music for the British, French and Portuguese variants (and the Swedish too, I think) is in ordinary music notation. I wonder what size these instruments are, and what is a typical string length: 42cms like the C-tuned British ones or 50 cms like the French? Or something else again? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
