[Clamav-users] too many clamav-milter processies

2006-11-07 Thread Michael Grant
This morning I woke up and there were a bunch of clamav-milter processies and mail was being rejected: 36769 clamav /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter --pidfile /var/run/clamav/c 37940 clamav /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter --pidfile /var/run/clamav/c 38180 clamav /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:12:03 -0700 Jim Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] My take on your post is that installing software blindly on a multi-user system is at best irresponsible. On a workstation on your desk, the effects of your actions are limited to you alone. This is not the case on a

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread James Kosin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Redman wrote: Of all the packages I install (Fedora), clamav is the only modern package that fails to install and just work. -- snip -- Jim You are ranting to the wrong group of people. ClamAV has nothing to do with RPM packages or

Re: [Clamav-users] Compiling rc2 on Solaris

2006-11-07 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:52:19 -0500 (EST) Christopher X. Candreva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this helps anyone else, but on Solaris 8 I had to tell configure explicily to use bash instead of stock sun /bin/sh . It was generating an error on the check for the clamav user (looked

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Jim Redman
Steve, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:12:03 -0700 Jim Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] My take on your post is that installing software blindly on a multi-user system is at best irresponsible. On a workstation on your desk, the effects of your actions are limited to you

Re: [Clamav-users] Compiling rc2 on Solaris

2006-11-07 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Tomasz Kojm wrote: Please report the problem to http://bugs.clamav.net Opened. Sorry, I just assumed it was Sun's problem. == Chris Candreva -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Jim Redman
James, James Kosin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Redman wrote: Of all the packages I install (Fedora), clamav is the only modern package that fails to install and just work. -- snip -- Jim You are ranting to the wrong group of people. ClamAV has nothing to

Re: [Clamav-users] Broken Pipe problem while running freshclam

2006-11-07 Thread Luca Gibelli
Hello Dennis, Why is it that dead servers remain in the round robin DNS tables for days on end? I'm using data from http://www.clamav.net/mirrors.html as a basis of dead. I usually contact the sysadmin immediately after the mirror goes down and remove them from the RR only if the sysadmin

RE: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jim Redman wrote: James, James Kosin wrote: Jim Redman wrote: Of all the packages I install (Fedora), clamav is the only modern package that fails to install and just work. -- snip -- Jim You are ranting to the wrong group of people. ClamAV has nothing to do with

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Gary V
Jim Redman wrote: Of all the packages I install (Fedora), clamav is the only modern package that fails to install and just work. -- snip -- Jim You are ranting to the wrong group of people. ClamAV has nothing to do with RPM packages or maintaining Fedora releases of the extra packages they

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
I WANT to know NOTHING about ClamAV, I wish to remain ignorant. I even trust the folks who produce RPMs to come up with reasonable defaults for file locations, max sizes, etc. etc. etc. As _IS_ the case with just about every other install. You have obviously been very successful in

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Luca Gibelli
Hello Jim, Instead the packages need me to learn some of the inner workings of ClamAV and FreshClam (forget editing the conf files, the packages don't even seem to work together out of the box), and since I really don't care about learning this, I'm going to get as far as making it work

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
My not-so-automated update process looks like this: wget (link to current clamav-XXX.tar.gz) tar xzf clamav-XXX.tar.gz cd clamav-XXX configure --disable-zlib-vcheck make su make install service clamav restart service freshclam restart You would be wise to uninstall the previous

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Jim Redman
Bowie, Bowie Bailey wrote: Hassle? My not-so-automated update process looks like this: wget (link to current clamav-XXX.tar.gz) tar xzf clamav-XXX.tar.gz cd clamav-XXX configure --disable-zlib-vcheck make su make install service clamav restart service freshclam restart The obvious

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
What seems entirely bizarre about Fedora's ClamAV packages is that they don't use freshclam in daemon mode, they use cron to run it. There's a perfectly good tool provided that does all the necessary things to link freshclam to clamd, and they don't use it. If you run freshclam as a

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:43:11 -0700 Jim Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bowie, Bowie Bailey wrote: Hassle? My not-so-automated update process looks like this: wget (link to current clamav-XXX.tar.gz) tar xzf clamav-XXX.tar.gz cd clamav-XXX configure --disable-zlib-vcheck

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
Bowie, The obvious observation that while this might work for you it's not a general solution, so now everyone needs to create a script. F'chrissake... It is trivial to do this. Less than 10 minutes, start to stop. I wrote the script I use 3 years and it took just minutes. I have 10 mail

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Jim Redman
James, James Kosin wrote: Unfortunately, if they are a brain-dead sysadmin, I drought they would know what to do with a VIRUS if ClamAV found one. Remember, ClamAV will find viruses, but, not clean them from infected programs. This is a good point, I would argue that the default in this

RE: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Barry Gill
If it runs out of cron it runs for just milli- seconds - other wise it is in the proc table Assuming of course that you don't end up with hundreds of spawned cron jons. For some reason, I have seen more often than I care to think, multiple cron jobs firing off freshclam and then not hanging up.

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Craig Morrison
Dennis Peterson wrote: My not-so-automated update process looks like this: wget (link to current clamav-XXX.tar.gz) tar xzf clamav-XXX.tar.gz cd clamav-XXX configure --disable-zlib-vcheck make su make install service clamav restart service freshclam restart You would be wise to uninstall the

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Brian Morrison
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 13:57:23 -0800 (PST) Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What seems entirely bizarre about Fedora's ClamAV packages is that they don't use freshclam in daemon mode, they use cron to run it. There's a perfectly good tool provided that does all the necessary

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Jim Redman
Steve, Steve Holdoway wrote: You really do need to get out of the mindset that you don't actually need to know what you're doing to administer a server. It is *NOT* a trivial task, requires skills to support it, and years of experience to do it well. Your opinions, seem to be the prevalent

[Clamav-users] don't understand technical lingo for SECURITY WARNING: NO SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES

2006-11-07 Thread joel Meyer
greetings all. i am a mac osx user but am unfamiliar with much of the computer lingoand this is my problem: i use clamav and just recently noticed this statement: SECURITY WARNING: NO SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES. now, i looked it up in the FAQs section, but because of my apparent computer

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Jim Redman wrote: Your opinions, seem to be the prevalent attitude of the vocal members of this list - if you don't suffer, it wasn't worth it. I would disagree, in that I don't see it as suffering. Forgive me if I missed it, but what is your specific problem ? Perhaps we

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Jim Redman
Chris, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Jim Redman wrote: Your opinions, seem to be the prevalent attitude of the vocal members of this list - if you don't suffer, it wasn't worth it. I would disagree, in that I don't see it as suffering. Forgive me if I missed it, but

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
You would be wise to uninstall the previous installation so that you don't end up with split versions. The man pages have not always been consistent nor have library names, and uninstall (make uninstall) helps prevent this. This only serves to illustrate the OP's point. I agree -

[Clamav-users] Re: don't understand technical lingo for SECURITY WARNING: NO SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES

2006-11-07 Thread René Berber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Meyer wrote: greetings all. i am a mac osx user but am unfamiliar with much of the computer lingoand this is my problem: i use clamav and just recently noticed this statement: SECURITY WARNING: NO SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES. now, i

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
If it runs out of cron it runs for just milli- seconds - other wise it is in the proc table Assuming of course that you don't end up with hundreds of spawned cron jons. rocket science Run the following fc.sh script from cron every hour #!/bin/sh # usage: fc.sh [now] # Any argument will

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 13:57:23 -0800 (PST) Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I accept your points Dennis, I'm just puzzled that people have so much trouble with freshclam daemons. I have used it for years and find it 100% reliable after a few problems with settings in the early

Re: [Clamav-users] don't understand technical lingo for SECURITY

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
greetings all. i am a mac osx user but am unfamiliar with much of the computer lingoand this is my problem: i use clamav and just recently noticed this statement: SECURITY WARNING: NO SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES. now, i looked it up in the FAQs section, but because of my apparent

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Jim Redman wrote: Your opinions, seem to be the prevalent attitude of the vocal members of this list - if you don't suffer, it wasn't worth it. I would disagree, in that I don't see it as suffering. Forgive me if I missed it, but what is your specific problem

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread John Rudd
Dennis Peterson wrote: My not-so-automated update process looks like this: wget (link to current clamav-XXX.tar.gz) tar xzf clamav-XXX.tar.gz cd clamav-XXX configure --disable-zlib-vcheck make su make install service clamav restart service freshclam restart You would be wise to uninstall the

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread John Rudd
Dennis Peterson wrote: Bowie, The obvious observation that while this might work for you it's not a general solution, so now everyone needs to create a script. F'chrissake... It is trivial to do this. Less than 10 minutes, start to stop. I wrote the script I use 3 years and it took just

Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to package rs

2006-11-07 Thread Dennis Peterson
John Rudd wrote: Dennis Peterson wrote: Bowie, The obvious observation that while this might work for you it's not a general solution, so now everyone needs to create a script. F'chrissake... It is trivial to do this. Less than 10 minutes, start to stop. I wrote the script I use 3 years and