Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-24 Thread Gerard
 On December 23, 2007 at 10:49PM Robert Adams wrote:

 I am very curious to know why anybody wants to help someone that has such an 
 adversarial attitude towards them.  I understand that support is support and 
 should help people when they are able to, but not everybody's attitude 
 warrants that extra mile of help.
 
 Baz, keep paying those big bucks and remain a Windows-weenie.  It does 
 not appear to me as though you will ever get an answer that makes you happy 
 until you have someone hold your hand throughout the entire process.
 
 Linux requires a knowlege of the O/S AND the distro - please learn some of 
 the 
 basics of both before you junp down others' throats when they (very 
 patiently) try to help you.  These people have spent much more than the month 
 or so that you have put in to learn Linux.  Please show them the respect they 
 deserve, ESPECIALLY when they are offering you their assistance on a Sunday 
 evening.
 
 Hopefully my next posting will not be in regards to some spoiled, arrogant 
 pussy that expects other people to do all his work and thinking for him.

Big buck, little bucks or no bucks, it makes no difference. Money is only
relative. The problem resides with those who are either too lazy or stupid to
RTFM. The number of winey-weeners is relatively proportionate to the number of
users of both *.nix and Microsoft products, although it is usually easier to
find documentation on Win32 based products.

It is apparent that the OP does not know proper posting etiquette to begin
with. The first response to his posting informed of of that; never-the-less,
he choose to ignore it. At that point right there I would have dismissed his
further inquiries. I usually ignore top posters out of habit anyway. If they
chose to post in a non-traditional manner, why should I waste me time trying
to assist them?

The best response you can give to a poster like that is not to berate him,
which only feeds his desire for attention, but rather to just ignore him
completely until his attitude changes.

-- 
Gerard

A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

TOPIC: Posting Etiquette
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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-24 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there,

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 Baz wrote:

 I installed ClamAV and ran a scan on my entire system returning a
 report of one infected file.  How do I find this file?  I

Did you accidentally press 'send' too soon?  I'm sure you intended to
tell us just what your system is and how you installed ClamAV on it;
exactly what you did, and exactly what you saw, when you ran the scan
process.  Clearly without that information we will be at considerable
disadvantage, any help that we can give will of necessity be couched
in fairly general terms.  Don't forget that there are people here who
run ClamAV on a bewildering variety of combinations of hardware and
software, for very much more than the odd scan of their system files.

So here's some fairly general help.

First, and probably most important, read everything you can find that
might help you to help yourself.  That's a common theme in the open
source software world.  If you want to optimize the help you get from
lists like this one, here's something important you need to read soon:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Second, there are lots of ways of finding the file which you seek, but
of course the methods will depend on information that unfortunately
wasn't provided with your question.  I suspect that you ran 'clamscan'
and you were rewarded with a _very_ large list of file names, to each
of which was appended the four characters : OK, and at the end of
the list was a summary, which is how you came by the information that
one of the files is infected.  On almost any computer system, the list
of filenames on a full system scan would be so long that it scrolled
most of the information that you were hoping for (that is, the names
of any infected files) off the top of the screen so quickly you had no
chance to read it.  Am I right?  Well, one way of stopping this from
happening is to press 'CTRL-S' (that is, you hold down the 'CTRL' key
and press the 'S' key once) which stops the text scrolling on most
systems.  Then to make it start scrolling again, press 'CTRL-Q'.  You
need to be quick, and fairly patient, to do it this way.  You could
avoid this problem by using your wits (also a common theme in the open
source world) for example by piping output from your scan command
through 'grep' - if you have a system which permits piping output and
has 'grep' installed on it.  If you haven't got 'grep' (already I can
hear people asking What use is a system that doesn't have grep and
can't pipe output?  but never mind that for the moment:) then you
could send the entire output of your scan to a file, and use a pager
or a text editor to search for the rogue file.  If you haven't got or
can't use a pager or an editor for some reason, then maybe you'll be
able to read the output over the Christmas break, or come back here
with more information.  Please be assured that what you want to do is
trivially easy to do.

Your next question is taking vague shape in my mind.  It has to do
with what the file is that you've found, and what you should do with
it.  For today, I've guessed as much as I'm prepared to guess, and I
probably wouldn't have done that if it wasn't Christmas Eve.

Compliments of the season to all.

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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-24 Thread Rob Sterenborg
I usually don't post but I just can't resist this insulting troll..

 wasn't provided with your question.  I suspect that you ran 'clamscan'
 and you were rewarded with a _very_ large list of file names, to each
 of which was appended the four characters : OK, and at the end of

[...snip things about grep, editor and pager...]

To make a really long story short; you mean something like:

$ clamscan /home/username | grep -v : OK | less

Of course, the OP would probably see a # instead of $ because he's
logged in as root, not as a mortal user like he should, considering his
experience.

However, I'm not familiar with a clam.conf/clamscan.conf/whatever.conf
file and I'm quite sure that it doesn't exist. There is of course the
clamd.conf file that the OP might want to locate (hint) if he were using
clamdscan instead of clamscan (OP: mind the little difference). But,
then the OP would need an up-to-date locate database (hint).

Ah wel, since it's almost Christmas eve (and before the OP starts
trolling and top-posting again) these are the lines to find clamd.conf:

(I haven't seen a recent distro that lacks these..)
# updatedb
# locate clamd.conf

OP:
- Don't tell us that you can't find updatedb, locate, grep and/or less.
In that case, please go seek help elsewhere. This list is about ClamAV,
not about learning to use Linux.
- You need to cleanup your act if you want help. It's you who's
insulting people that try to help you. If you can't use the help given,
it might be you who's not competent enough to perform basic tasks. This
would be your problem, not ours.
- If you don't want to learn how to work with *nix and it's apps, please
delete your Linux partition and stick with Windows as that would then be
best for all of us (including you).

 Compliments of the season to all.

Perhaps a bit early, but, merry Christmas to everyone!


Grts,
Rob
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[Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Baz
Hello,

I installed ClamAV and ran a scan on my entire system returning a
report of one infected file.  How do I find this file?  I

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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Dennis Peterson
Baz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I installed ClamAV and ran a scan on my entire system returning a
 report of one infected file.  How do I find this file?  I
 

Did you look in your log file?

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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Baz
And where exactly is it?  Do Linux developers intentionally make this
shit difficult and still bitch about Windows/Norton's dominance?

On Dec 23, 2007 4:15 PM, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Baz wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I installed ClamAV and ran a scan on my entire system returning a
  report of one infected file.  How do I find this file?  I
 

 Did you look in your log file?

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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Dennis Peterson
Baz wrote:
 And where exactly is it?  Do Linux developers intentionally make this
 shit difficult and still bitch about Windows/Norton's dominance?

Please crush with all your being any desire to top post.

Apparently you've not read anything yet so a good place to start is the ClamAV 
Wiki. 
The have a page especially for new users. 
http://wiki.clamav.net/Main/WebHome#ClamAV_for_beginners

I can't tell you where your log will be because I had nothing to do with the 
installation, but if you run the clamconf utility it will tell you where it 
thinks 
the log is. There are a number of user-defined choices about the log which is 
why it 
is unpredictable where it is. On my Sun systems it is in /var/log and I use the 
syslogd logger. Those were choices I made.

The clamconf utility is often located in the same path as the clamdscan and 
clamscan 
executables, but that is also configurable. If you installed ClamAV from source 
your 
build process would tell you these things. If you installed from an RPM then 
who ever 
built your RPM has the info you need.

I don't own, run, or use Linux so don't know what the developers do for fun.

dp
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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Baz
Dennis,

Not apparently you're wrong.  I spent at least two hours reading the
wiki, support info from the website, various things from Google
searches.  Please note, that even you don't even know where it
should be.  This information should be readily apparent.  Also, I
didn't compile it, but installed pre-compiled packages from a
non-official Debian repository.  My main point is these Linux
cheerleaders, who also whine about Microsoft's dominance, yet they
can't even offer end-user-friendly applications so very basic to
desktop security.

Nevertheless, thank you for your input.

On Dec 23, 2007 4:58 PM, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Baz wrote:
  And where exactly is it?  Do Linux developers intentionally make this
  shit difficult and still bitch about Windows/Norton's dominance?

 Please crush with all your being any desire to top post.

 Apparently you've not read anything yet so a good place to start is the 
 ClamAV Wiki.
 The have a page especially for new users.
 http://wiki.clamav.net/Main/WebHome#ClamAV_for_beginners

 I can't tell you where your log will be because I had nothing to do with the
 installation, but if you run the clamconf utility it will tell you where it 
 thinks
 the log is. There are a number of user-defined choices about the log which is 
 why it
 is unpredictable where it is. On my Sun systems it is in /var/log and I use 
 the
 syslogd logger. Those were choices I made.

 The clamconf utility is often located in the same path as the clamdscan and 
 clamscan
 executables, but that is also configurable. If you installed ClamAV from 
 source your
 build process would tell you these things. If you installed from an RPM then 
 who ever
 built your RPM has the info you need.

 I don't own, run, or use Linux so don't know what the developers do for fun.


 dp
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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Baz
Or this
# clamscan -r /

Dave, keep that smug attitude going.  It only helps M$.  Thank God I
still have XP on another partition.

On Dec 23, 2007 5:12 PM, Dave M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 23, 2007 7:07 PM, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dennis,
 
  Not apparently you're wrong.  I spent at least two hours reading the
  wiki, support info from the website, various things from Google
  searches.  Please note, that even you don't even know where it
  should be.  This information should be readily apparent.  Also, I
  didn't compile it, but installed pre-compiled packages from a
  non-official Debian repository.  My main point is these Linux
  cheerleaders, who also whine about Microsoft's dominance, yet they
  can't even offer end-user-friendly applications so very basic to
  desktop security.
 
  Nevertheless, thank you for your input.
 

 Those darn linux cheerleaders. So how did you run your scan? You
 should have been left with something like this:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ clamscan test/
 test/xpladv470.wmf: Exploit.WMF.A FOUND
 test/lsd.exe: OK
 test/wmf_exp.wmf: Exploit.WMF.A FOUND
 test/lol.exe: OK

 --- SCAN SUMMARY --

 Or did you use a GUI?


  On Dec 23, 2007 4:58 PM, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Baz wrote:
And where exactly is it?  Do Linux developers intentionally make this
shit difficult and still bitch about Windows/Norton's dominance?
  
   Please crush with all your being any desire to top post.
  
   Apparently you've not read anything yet so a good place to start is the 
   ClamAV Wiki.
   The have a page especially for new users.
   http://wiki.clamav.net/Main/WebHome#ClamAV_for_beginners
  
   I can't tell you where your log will be because I had nothing to do with 
   the
   installation, but if you run the clamconf utility it will tell you where 
   it thinks
   the log is. There are a number of user-defined choices about the log 
   which is why it
   is unpredictable where it is. On my Sun systems it is in /var/log and I 
   use the
   syslogd logger. Those were choices I made.
  
   The clamconf utility is often located in the same path as the clamdscan 
   and clamscan
   executables, but that is also configurable. If you installed ClamAV from 
   source your
   build process would tell you these things. If you installed from an RPM 
   then who ever
   built your RPM has the info you need.
  
   I don't own, run, or use Linux so don't know what the developers do for 
   fun.
  
  
   dp
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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Dave M
On Dec 23, 2007 7:16 PM, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or this
 # clamscan -r /

 Dave, keep that smug attitude going.  It only helps M$.  Thank God I
 still have XP on another partition.


Not sure why you'd scan your whole system. Personally, on a Linux
system using it the way you are, I'd only be interested in scanning
user directories and maybe /tmp. You'll probably get an easier,
cleaner output if you try this:

# clamscan -i -r /

Then it's only showing the infected files. You'll have an easier time
reading the output now.

And don't run as root - that can be dangerous.

 On Dec 23, 2007 5:12 PM, Dave M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Dec 23, 2007 7:07 PM, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Dennis,
  
   Not apparently you're wrong.  I spent at least two hours reading the
   wiki, support info from the website, various things from Google
   searches.  Please note, that even you don't even know where it
   should be.  This information should be readily apparent.  Also, I
   didn't compile it, but installed pre-compiled packages from a
   non-official Debian repository.  My main point is these Linux
   cheerleaders, who also whine about Microsoft's dominance, yet they
   can't even offer end-user-friendly applications so very basic to
   desktop security.
  
   Nevertheless, thank you for your input.
  
 
  Those darn linux cheerleaders. So how did you run your scan? You
  should have been left with something like this:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ clamscan test/
  test/xpladv470.wmf: Exploit.WMF.A FOUND
  test/lsd.exe: OK
  test/wmf_exp.wmf: Exploit.WMF.A FOUND
  test/lol.exe: OK
 
  --- SCAN SUMMARY --
 
  Or did you use a GUI?
 
 
   On Dec 23, 2007 4:58 PM, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Baz wrote:
 And where exactly is it?  Do Linux developers intentionally make this
 shit difficult and still bitch about Windows/Norton's dominance?
   
Please crush with all your being any desire to top post.
   
Apparently you've not read anything yet so a good place to start is the 
ClamAV Wiki.
The have a page especially for new users.
http://wiki.clamav.net/Main/WebHome#ClamAV_for_beginners
   
I can't tell you where your log will be because I had nothing to do 
with the
installation, but if you run the clamconf utility it will tell you 
where it thinks
the log is. There are a number of user-defined choices about the log 
which is why it
is unpredictable where it is. On my Sun systems it is in /var/log and I 
use the
syslogd logger. Those were choices I made.
   
The clamconf utility is often located in the same path as the clamdscan 
and clamscan
executables, but that is also configurable. If you installed ClamAV 
from source your
build process would tell you these things. If you installed from an RPM 
then who ever
built your RPM has the info you need.
   
I don't own, run, or use Linux so don't know what the developers do for 
fun.
   
   
dp
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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Dennis Peterson
Baz wrote:
 Or this
 # clamscan -r /
 
 Dave, keep that smug attitude going.  It only helps M$.  Thank God I
 still have XP on another partition.
 

Despite the fact that you are a top posting whining asshat who has no sense of 
personal responsibility, it's Christmas so I'm not going to tell you to kiss my 
a$$. 
Figure it out for yourself, genius.

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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Baz
Dave, work on your passive-aggressive lip service.  Ask Santa for help.

On Dec 23, 2007 5:24 PM, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Baz wrote:
  Or this
  # clamscan -r /
 
  Dave, keep that smug attitude going.  It only helps M$.  Thank God I
  still have XP on another partition.
 

 Despite the fact that you are a top posting whining asshat who has no sense of
 personal responsibility, it's Christmas so I'm not going to tell you to kiss 
 my a$$.
 Figure it out for yourself, genius.


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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Baz
Sorry, Dennis work on it

On Dec 23, 2007 5:25 PM, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave, work on your passive-aggressive lip service.  Ask Santa for help.


 On Dec 23, 2007 5:24 PM, Dennis Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Baz wrote:
   Or this
   # clamscan -r /
  
   Dave, keep that smug attitude going.  It only helps M$.  Thank God I
   still have XP on another partition.
  
 
  Despite the fact that you are a top posting whining asshat who has no sense 
  of
  personal responsibility, it's Christmas so I'm not going to tell you to 
  kiss my a$$.
  Figure it out for yourself, genius.
 
 
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Re: [Clamav-users] How to find infected file

2007-12-23 Thread Rick Macdougall
Baz wrote:
 Or this
 # clamscan -r /
 
 Dave, keep that smug attitude going.  It only helps M$.  Thank God I
 still have XP on another partition.
 

Leave the troll alone guys.  It's not going any where.

Regards,

Rick

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