Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-20 Thread Al Varnell via clamav-users
I suspect we all read your concerns, but I have a problem understanding how that translates into defining a true vulnerability and the resultant level of severity. Assuming someone goes to all the trouble of figuring out what the hard coded public key embedded in ClamAV is, signs a fake .cvd

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-20 Thread Paul Kosinski via clamav-users
My comments were mainly concerning CVD *validation*, not HTTPS. Debian updates (for example) are delivered via plain HTTP, but they are validated using standard GPG tools. Firefox (ESR) updates are handled similarly (up to SHA512 hash, validated using GPG). I have more confidence in standard GPG

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-17 Thread Joel Esler (jesler) via clamav-users
As Micah said, when we roll out the new version of freshclam that supports https, this will be a done deal. Technically, https on the cdn is available now. Freshclam just doesn’t know how to use it. We want people to freshclam. As the way it functions does so in a way that reduces load on

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-17 Thread Paul Kosinski via clamav-users
Looking at the PiperMail thread about how ClamAV verifies CVD signatures, I see two things that concern me. First, it says it uses "an implementation of RSA inspired by http://www.erikyyy.de/yyyRSA/;. How well has this implementation been vetted? I'm not a crypto expert (by any means), but people

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-17 Thread instaham--- via clamav-users
Arnaud Jacques wrote: The .cvd files have an internal cryptographic signature that's checked by freshclam and clamd/clamscan. If freshclam and/or clamd accepts the files, you can be assured they are official and unmodified. This is built into clam; no external tools are called. Thanks, this is

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-16 Thread Dave Warren via clamav-users
On 2019-03-15 09:53, Franky Van Liedekerke via clamav-users wrote: I wonder why the http/https discussion is still relevant. Almost all sites use https now, http is getting slowly banned and a lot of companies just don't want to allow incoming http traffic towards a server. Certifcates cost

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-15 Thread Luke Massa via clamav-users
I had this question a while back, and this is what I was able to track down: The files are not signed via any PKI trusted by your system, but rather by a specific RSA key that is trusted by the code itself. If you look in libclamav/dsig.c, there is an implementation of RSA inspired by

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-15 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
Em 15/03/2019 14:39, G.W. Haywood via clamav-users escreveu: Hi there, On Fri, 15 Mar 2019, Franky Van Liedekerkewrote: Certifcates cost nothing ... CPU cycles don't.     developers time do cost their ... time, basically. How about contributing with the code instead of blaming ? That

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-15 Thread G.W. Haywood via clamav-users
Hi there, On Fri, 15 Mar 2019, Franky Van Liedekerkewrote: Certifcates cost nothing ... CPU cycles don't. -- 73, Ged. ___ clamav-users mailing list clamav-users@lists.clamav.net https://lists.clamav.net/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users Help us

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-15 Thread Micah Snyder (micasnyd) via clamav-users
For what it's worth, one of the tasks we're working on for 0.102 is https support for freshclam. It's more than just adding an "s" to the URL. The plan is to make libcurl a hard requirement for ClamAV, which will also mean including libcurl on Windows. Then we'll have to rewrite the

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-15 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke via clamav-users
Op Vrijdag, 15-03-2019 om 16:04 schreef instaham--- via clamav-users: > Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: > >     the databases are digitally signed, and any modification, such in > > a man-in-the-middle attack, would break the signature and freshclam > > would refuse to run the files. > > Sounds good.

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-15 Thread Arnaud Jacques
Hello, Le 15/03/2019 à 16:04, instaham--- via clamav-users a écrit : Leonardo Rodrigues wrote:     the databases are digitally signed, and any modification, such in a man-in-the-middle attack, would break the signature and freshclam would refuse to run the files. Sounds good. Can you please

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-15 Thread instaham--- via clamav-users
Leonardo Rodrigues wrote:     the databases are digitally signed, and any modification, such in a man-in-the-middle attack, would break the signature and freshclam would refuse to run the files. Sounds good. Can you please explain how this works in detail? Apt places GPG keys in the system

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-14 Thread Arnaud Jacques
Hello, You can read this thread and make your own opinion : https://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2014-December/001129.html Le 14/03/2019 à 19:26, instaham--- via clamav-users a écrit : Hi everybody, I assume that when I run "freshclam", the virus database is updated over an

Re: [clamav-users] Database updated over unencrypted connection?

2019-03-14 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
Em 14/03/2019 15:26, instaham--- via clamav-users escreveu: Hi everybody, Or is some kind of verification of the data happening in the background (such as apt in Debian is using GPG)?     the databases are digitally signed, and any modification, such in a man-in-the-middle attack, would